Is Obama a Natural Born Citizen?

Molinaro said:
It's back in the news because some woman stood up in a town hall meeting somewhere and started going on about it. She then got the whole audience to join her in saying the pledge of allegiance. It was caught on video... CNN picked it up ... and on and on and on it goes..
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MattusMaximus said:
The hilarious thing is that a lot of more mainstream conservatives are now telling the nutters to pipe down about Obama's citizenship, because they're afraid it's going to make the GOP look bad...

‘Birthers’: New burst of attention for old doubts
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I just started a thread showing the video and discussing how Michael Medved was smacking the birfers down last night.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=149151

Marc39 said:
So he has said. When was the last time he's been to church?
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Why should that matter? Hell, why would it matter if he were a Muslim?
 
David Wong said:
He... he apparently is asking for the physical document that he can hold in his hands??? I guess we just pass it around America so everybody can touch it?

He has to be joking. Has to be. We have exactly as much proof that Obama is natural born as we had for any president. They've even got the freaking newspaper announcement from that day.
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It sounds more like the only way he would believe it would be if he could travel back in time and witness the birth himself.

Even then, he probably wouldn't believe it. People who believe in conspiracy theories are awfully stubborn.
 
What I find interesting about the interview where Obama's "grandmother" supposedly admitted that Obama was born in Kenya, is the phrasing of the question: "Were you present when Obama was born in Kenya?". The question presumes that he was born in Kenya, or possibly was intended to trick her into saying "Yes". An objective interviewer would have asked, "Where was Obama born?". or "Were you present when Obama was born?", followed by, "Where was he born".
 
I wouldn't object to allowing naturalized citizens to be President. However, it would require a constitutional amendment, and those are difficult to pass in the US, requiring a 2/3 vote of House of Representatives and Senate, followed by ratification by 3/4 of state legislatures.
 
David Wong said:
He... he apparently is asking for the physical document that he can hold in his hands??? I guess we just pass it around America so everybody can touch it?

He has to be joking. Has to be. We have exactly as much proof that Obama is natural born as we had for any president. They've even got the freaking newspaper announcement from that day.
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When I first heard the rumor in Oct 2008 I created this thread in order to figure out if was true or not. :confused:
The only form of proof that this thread produced was birth certificate.:boggled: Even if the birth certificate was personally delivered by President Blackface himself period wouldn't prove anything to me, because my birth certificate just so happens to be fake, as for what happen to my real one is beyond me. As for the newspaper article, your the first one in this thread to mention it. Thanks :)
 
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h.g.Whiz said:
When I first heard the rumor in Oct 2008 I created this thread in order to figure out if was true or not. :confused:
The only form of proof that this thread produced was birth certificate.:boggled: Even if the birth certificate was personally delivered my President Blackface himself period doesn't prove anything to me, because my birth certificate just so happens to be fake, as for what happen to my real one is beyond me. As for the newspaper article, your the first one in this thread to mention it. Thanks :)
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:jaw-dropp
 
h.g.Whiz said:
When I first heard the rumor in Oct 2008 I created this thread in order to figure out if was true or not. :confused:
The only form of proof that this thread produced was birth certificate.:boggled: Even if the birth certificate was personally delivered by President Blackface himself period wouldn't prove anything to me, because my birth certificate just so happens to be fake, as for what happen to my real one is beyond me. As for the newspaper article, your the first one in this thread to mention it. Thanks :)
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So, for the record, are you claiming that Obama is or is not a U.S. citizen? I'm having trouble telling if you're serious or if you're being sarcastic here.
 
For the record I am claiming that Obama is a U. S. citizen.
I strive to be a round character not a flat one.
 
David Wong said:
Yeah I think he qualifies for my ignore list with that.
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The number of blatant racist remarks I've seen in political threads (or could be Current Events) in the last couple of days remind me not to put these people on ignore but to call them out.

Tell us, HGWhiz, do you actually think that "President Blackface" is a clever remark?

Is this some kind of open season because there's an African-American in the White House? All's fair in love, war, and politics so you can trot out not even thinly disguised racist comments?
 
I wonder, if the President's father had been from a European country and they were both white, would there be an issue?
 
h.g.Whiz said:
When I first heard the rumor in Oct 2008 I created this thread in order to figure out if was true or not. :confused:
The only form of proof that this thread produced was birth certificate.:boggled: Even if the birth certificate was personally delivered by President Blackface himself period wouldn't prove anything to me, because my birth certificate just so happens to be fake, as for what happen to my real one is beyond me. As for the newspaper article, your the first one in this thread to mention it. Thanks :)
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Stunningly racist. Stunningly ignorant of the facts. Good job! :eek:
 
David Wong said:
He... he apparently is asking for the physical document that he can hold in his hands??? I guess we just pass it around America so everybody can touch it?

He has to be joking. Has to be. We have exactly as much proof that Obama is natural born as we had for any president. They've even got the freaking newspaper announcement from that day.
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Well here is the silly thing:
If you request a certified copy of my wife's birth certificate , you will get a 'record of life birth' or whatever it is that is says on Obabma 'birth certificate'.

Now this is the legal document that you need to qualify for a passport, real ID or apply for Social Security.

The only person for whom it is not sufficient are those boosting the ratings of their shows by creating a false controversy.
 
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Whilst this might have had some relevance to the 2008 USA Presidential elections, it is definitely one of the CT section these days.
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Dancing David said:
Well here is the silly thing:
If you request a certified copy of my wife's birth certificate , you will get a 'record of life birth' or whatever it is that is says on Obabma 'birth certificate'.

Now this is the legal document that you need to qualify for a passport, real ID or apply for Social Security.

The only person for whom it is not sufficient are those boosting the ratings of their shows by creating a false controversy.
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Here, they have actually destroyed all "original" copies in favor of the computerized records. I guess nobody from here ought to ever run for high office?
 
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