Israel bans use of word "Nakba" in textbooks

[Marc39]

"Merely immigrating" to you might be "taking our country over" and "stealing our land and resources" to others.

Merely immigrating to a plot of land, proceeding to legally purchase
land--from Arab landowners, no less--on which to live, transforming that land from barren desert to blooming citrus groves and a booming economy, establishing a viable, cohesive society, winning a war of independence and establishing a legitiimate, sovereign state to others.

To many people, allowing outsiders to take your land exhibits a ghastly moral compass.

See previous response for edification.

 

[Monketi Ghost]

Merely immigrating to a plot of land, proceeding to legally purchase
land--from Arab landowners, no less--on which to live, transforming that land from barren desert to blooming citrus groves and a booming economy, establishing a viable, cohesive society, winning a war of independence and establishing a legitiimate, sovereign state to others.



See previous response for edification. clarification.

Fixed for you. And that first paragraph is so funny! Did everyone dance around the maypole together, singing and shooting lollipops and unicorns from their asses too? Gosh, they did everyone there such an unacknowledged favor. I'm going straight down to see my Palestinian friend and tell him he's from nowhere and to stop crying.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

A "perspective" that serves to feed the Arab psychosis of victimization and revenge, but, far more importantly, a perspective that is the root cause of Arab terrorism against Jews. Both Jews and Arabs, and the world, would do well to not have any of this Nakba business.

But the quote provided above presents it as a perspective and not as the truth. Banning that perspective would be akin to leaving out the reasons for the American Civil War because some of those views were [gasp] racist!

 

[Marc39]

Fixed for you. And that first paragraph is so funny! Did everyone dance around the maypole together, singing and shooting lollipops and unicorns from their asses too?

Whether the Arabs brought out the Welcome Wagon and warmly embraced the Jewish immigrants, or not, is immaterial. They had no veto rights to prevent Jewish immigraton, permitted under Ottoman rule and, later, under the Palestine Mandate.

Gosh, they did everyone there such an unacknowledged favor. I'm going straight down to see my Palestinian friend and tell him he's from nowhere and to stop crying.

Your "Palestinian" friend likely refers to himself as an Arab or a Muslim or a Christian, not a "Palestinian", though, Christians are leaving in droves as a result of Muslim persecuiton.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

You're confusing "mourning" with "whining". They are whining about something that happened 60 years ago. What's the use of commemorating something nobody can do anything about anymore?

I suppose it's time to shut down those Holocaust museums, then. Maybe now we can finally use them for something else - I think Belsen would make a nice water park.

Brave New World Water Park of No More Effing Whining. Sounds good.

 

[Monketi Ghost]

I suppose it's time to shut down those Holocaust museums, then. Maybe now we can finally use them for something else - I think Belsen would make a nice water park.

Brave New World Water Park of No More Effing Whining. Sounds good.

First we change the Freedom Towers to the "We Got Blasted and That's Fine with Us Towers"

 

[Marc39]

I suppose it's time to shut down those Holocaust museums, then. Maybe now we can finally use them for something else - I think Belsen would make a nice water park.

Maybe I missed this episode in history, but, I'm not aware of the Nazis making provisions for an independent Jewish state, as the so-called Palestinians had been time and again.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

Maybe I missed this episode in history, but, I'm not aware of the Nazis making provisions for an independent Jewish state, as the so-called Palestinians had been time and again.

You should be playing dodgeball.

First we change the Freedom Towers to the "We Got Blasted and That's Fine with Us Towers"

Mm, we're not sore losers. They won that one, that's fine with us.

 

[Kookwatcher]

I agree completely.

Arabs should come up with a new word, a word for "live with it", or "move on".



You're confusing "mourning" with "whining". They are whining about something that happened 60 years ago. What's the use of commemorating something nobody can do anything about anymore?

Yeah, just like those French Canadians. There's no New France, guys. You're Canadian. It was all decided by Wolfe and Montcalm 250 years ago - live with it. Move on.

 

[Pardalis]

What fun.

I would normally only expect to see this sort of stuff from Racists and Holocaust deniers

I don't see how anyone in their right mind can compare the Holocaust to the creation of Israel.

 

[linusrichard]

I don't see how anyone in their right mind can compare the Holocaust to the creation of Israel.

Here are your words:

They are whining about something that happened 60 years ago. What's the use of commemorating something nobody can do anything about anymore?

And those words could just as easily apply to the Holocaust as anything else. So maybe you should clarify?

 

[Pardalis]

Yeah, just like those French Canadians. There's no New France, guys. You're Canadian. It was all decided by Wolfe and Montcalm 250 years ago - live with it. Move on.

No. The Palestinians can always create their own state, if they want to. Actually, that would be a really great thing for them. The thing they have to get over is what happened 60 years ago, the same way Quebecers should move on and stop whining about the defeat at the Planes of Abraham (ironic, in this context).

I never commemorate the "Fête des Patriotes", because I think it's stupid.

I'm for the independence of Québec, but because of 21st century reasons, and for the people of the 21st century. The constant use of what happened centuries in the past is wrong, and it's used only to fuel nationalism. One should look towards the future, not sulk about the past.

 

[Pardalis]

And those words could just as easily apply to the Holocaust as anything else.

No. Antisemitism still exists, and the people who wish to kill all Jewish people still exist.

Israel exists, and that's not a bad thing, and it's not going anywhere.

 

[Towlie]

I don't see how anyone in their right mind can compare the Holocaust to the creation of Israel.

No, of course not, but perhaps some might compare some of the milder aspects of the Holocaust, such as the early eviction of Jews from their homes so that Germans could move in. I'm reminded of a scene in Schindler's List where Schindler moves into a house shortly after its owners are evicted, lays back on the bed, and says "this is perfect", as the house's owners, meanwhile, are moved to the Ghetto. In all honesty, it's hard to not see a parallel there.

 

[Pardalis]

In all honesty, it's hard to not see a parallel there.

Except that's not exactly what happened, and not for the same reasons. And alot more happened afterwards that absolutely don't compare.

The comparison is clumsy, and distasteful.

 

[a_unique_person]

I agree completely.

Arabs should come up with a new word, a word for "live with it", or "move on".



You're confusing "mourning" with "whining". They are whining about something that happened 60 years ago. What's the use of commemorating something nobody can do anything about anymore?

Using that principle, the Holocaust should be forgotten too.

 

[Pardalis]

Another one.

 

[a_unique_person]

Except that's not exactly what happened, and not for the same reasons. And alot more happened afterwards that absolutely don't compare.

The comparison is clumsy, and distasteful.

What is distasteful is your insistence that Jews can remember their bad times, but Palestinians can't.

 

[Pardalis]

What is distasteful is your insistence that Jews can remember their bad times, but Palestinians can't.

You call the Holocaust a "bad time"?

Damned moral relativists, you have no idea of the scale of the atrocity. These events absolutely don't compare.

 

[a_unique_person]

You call the Holocaust a "bad time"?

Damned moral relativists, you have no idea of the scale of the atrocity. These events absolutely don't compare.

I didn't compare them at all, I just said they are allowed to mourn what they want to mourn, but not the Palestinians. As usual, the argument quickly turns into personal attacks.