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The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty

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Thanks for posting those images of RUG-ged Bob, Makaya! :)


Here's a larger version of one of them...


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6th July 2009, 08:45 AM

Astrophotographer said:
Now, how about answering these questions:

1. What are your comparison drawings trying to demonstrate?
2. What is the standard for placing the upper point of your line? Is it the back of the head or the ear?
3. What is the standard for placing the lower point of your line? Is it the butt or the thigh?
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6th July 2009, 06:39 PM:

Astrophotographer said:
You still are avoiding my questions. Can you explain what you are doing and what it demonstrates? When you draw a line, you need two data points. You have given a vague standard for the first point. What is the second point by which you drew your lines?

Finally, why is the line for Bob in a suit's head not intersecting the ear? Why did your line parallel the back of his head? Why was it wrong for me to do that with "Bunny's" head?

Remember, this is your evidence and theory. I would think you could explain it clearly (i.e. identifying your data points for the lines) so everyone could follow and see if your work is valid. I also would think you could clearly explain what this is supposed to show.

Finally, unless the two figures are identically posed (i.e. head position, head tilt, etc.) then this kind of comparison based on a small scale is probably going to be severely flawed.
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7th July 2009, 08:54 AM:

Astrophotographer said:
As I expected, Sweaty's "later" is a ploy used to avoid difficult bigfoot questions.
Are you trying to validate your work by me admitting that there is a point on a photograph where the edge of the head is above the ear? Yes, there is always a point on a subjects head above the ear. However, this is not what you said in post 1674:

the back edge of the visible head, approx. half-way up the head...

There is no mention of the ear in this post. Now you are saying that there is a point where the "Back" of the head is above the ear. Most people call that the "top" of the head but in Sweaty land, back and top can be interchangable I guess.

Explain why you chose not to select that point (at the top of the head above the ear) on Bob? Why do you keep shifting your standards of work? Your work is invalid for several very obvious reasons:

1) You can't explain what it means
2) You apply the first data point differently on the two subjects in question.
3) You can not define the second data point for which you created your line.
4) You have difficulty in understanding how images are distorted through photo manipulation and resizing (add to this the number of generations this is from the original scan).
5) You have difficulty in understanding that the resolution in these images is too poor to make determinations of the magnitude you desire.

Now go back to the corner where you can play make believe and color with crayons. When you have something coherent to say, then the adults may recognize it as potentially valid.
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Today is the 22nd of July. 16 days and five pages have gone by since Astro asked those questions. Every single day for more than two weeks Sweaty has been asked why he is avoiding answer simple questions regarding his arguments. In this post I pointed out the many times that Sweaty has claimed he doesn't avoid questions. Every single person reading this thread who isn't Sweaty knows this to be a lie. I'm confident that Sweaty knows this is a lie, as well.

Here arethree simple questions for Sweaty that I predict he will avoid answering...

1) Sweaty, do you avoid answering questions about your Bigfoot evidence arguments that you are repeatedly asked about? Yes or no.

2) Is it fair that the regular participants of this thread as well as the casual observers think you avoid answering questions about your Bigfoot evidence arguments that you are repeatedly asked about? Yes or no.

3) If you answer "no" to either of those questions, why do you think it is that every single one of the regular participants of this thread as well as many casual observers think you avoid answering questions about your Bigfoot evidence arguments that you are repeatedly asked about?

Sweaty, your post #1836 looks like it was made by a slightly kooky person. It's staggering to think that you might actually believe that people will take seriously the participation in a debate of a person who takes the kind of time necessary to individually color letters, sentences, paragraphs, abuse sizes and fonts, make visual messes of posts, and cackle, hum, and babble like a crazy person and yet flee like a frightened tit mouse from the most basic and simple questions regarding you arguments.

SweatyYeti - Time for amazing technicolor dreampost gobbledygook? Yes, oodles. Time for simple questions and real debate? Ehhhhh... not so much.

There's a lady with a red sweater that would love to talk with you, Sweaty...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QN7uETSIcus

I think this Christmas I should really send Sweaty some nice mustard parachute pants...

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SweatyYeti said:
Translation...:)...

kitakaze....."Critical Thinker Extroardinaire"....got no explanations...no illustrations......no contributions.......regarding this little ditty...

[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Patty%20and%20Bob/PBHeadCompAG3.gif[/qimg]

And that, my friends.....is a GOOD thing! :D
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Take it from a bilingual person who has actually worked as a translator that your translation abilities suck.

I can't imagine that anyone could be so far gone as to actually think that that improperly scaled gobbledy-gook is valid as a means to try and claim that Patty's head was to small to fit Bob's. I think an eight year old child could defeat you in debate while watching Transformers. Not only is that thing improperly scaled, the heads are not in the same postion relative to the camera. Just looking at the eyes confirms it. If it was a three dimensional image that could be manipulated, I could show you that. You give me jpg's of Patty and Bob that haven't been scribbled on and I will show you that the positions are not the same.

Ooops for you. Once again, I can easily demonstrate that your comparison is invalid. Here is proof that Bob's head fits in Patty's just fine...



Lots of roomfor a head piece in there. Let's not forget when I served you a cup of oops-lost-your-tongue made special just for you by neltana when you once again tried to say two different skeletons were used. Ballzheimers will do that to you...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhQ1Y3EqyN0

I love that video. Neltana schools you silly and does it with a smile.:)

So tell us, Sweaty, what are the scientific principles and methodology used in your analyses and what measures do you use to eliminate erroneous data?

And what is heck is going on with the morphing heads here?...

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I predict you will respond to this post ignoring most of the questions and spend a serious amounts of your time composing kaleidoscope non sequitur goop. This is what happens when you're an intellectual coward addled with Ballzheimers dementia.
 
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Let's take a walk down Memory Lane....:)....with RUG-ged Bob......and Patty...

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Note how well they match-up....in every respect, and in every dimension...:)...


Who says... 'you can never go home again'??? ;)


(Actually...I can see one difference....
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....notice how Patty's jaw protrudes out beyond her chest, while RUG-ged Bob's jaw is safely nestled in the soft, cushy, warmth of his rug. :D )
 
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kitakaze wrote:
SweatyYeti - Time for amazing technicolor dreampost gobbledygook? Yes, oodles.

Time for simple questions and real debate? Ehhhhh... not so much.
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I spend myTime as I see fit...

If you don't like that....well, tough ---- :D
 
SweatyYeti said:
Let's take a walk down Memory Lane....:)....with RUG-ged Bob......and Patty...

[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Patty%20and%20Bob/RuggedBob4.jpg[/qimg][qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Patty%20and%20Bob/Patty7n.jpg[/qimg]
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OK. Hi there, Patty McLumpy...

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Is that a particle weapon in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? Too bad your Huggies are full and it looks like somebody dropped you on your head.

Note how well they match-up....in every respect, and in every dimension...:)...
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Yes. Yes, they do. Even when Bob where's different suits...




Who says... 'you can never go home again'??? ;)
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You just close your eyes, click your heels, and say "there's no place like home." Which for you, of course, is a return to fantasy land rather than a departure.

(Actually...I can see one difference.... [qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Fun/doglaugh.gif[/qimg] ....notice how Patty's jaw protrudes out beyond her chest, while RUG-ged Bob's jaw is safely nestled in the soft, cushy, warmth of his rug. :D )
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I don't see anything significant that indicates a real animal over a human in a costume. I see no measurements and certainly no explanations why I should be thinking a human's unlikely because of them. What I do see desperation and it looks sad and yet funny at the same time.

Poor, funny fanatic.
 
SweatyYeti said:
kitakaze wrote:

SweatyYeti - Time for amazing technicolor dreampost gobbledygook? Yes, oodles. Time for simple questions and real debate? Ehhhhh... not so much.
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I spend my Time as I see fit...

If you don't like that....well, tough ---- :D
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You can spend as much time fleeing and dodging simple questions as you like. 2 weeks, 2 months, whatever. It's not like anyone didn't think you were lying when you said you won't avoid answering Bigfoot-related questions.

Fear is the mind killer...

kitakaze said:
6th July 2009, 08:45 AM



6th July 2009, 06:39 PM:



7th July 2009, 08:54 AM:



Today is the 22nd of July. 16 days and five pages have gone by since Astro asked those questions. Every single day for more than two weeks Sweaty has been asked why he is avoiding answer simple questions regarding his arguments. In this post I pointed out the many times that Sweaty has claimed he doesn't avoid questions. Every single person reading this thread who isn't Sweaty knows this to be a lie. I'm confident that Sweaty knows this is a lie, as well.

Here are three simple questions for Sweaty that I predict he will avoid answering...

1) Sweaty, do you avoid answering questions about your Bigfoot evidence arguments that you are repeatedly asked about? Yes or no.

2) Is it fair that the regular participants of this thread as well as the casual observers think you avoid answering questions about your Bigfoot evidence arguments that you are repeatedly asked about? Yes or no.

3) If you answer "no" to either of those questions, why do you think it is that every single one of the regular participants of this thread as well as many casual observers think you avoid answering questions about your Bigfoot evidence arguments that you are repeatedly asked about?

Sweaty, your post #1836 looks like it was made by a slightly kooky person. It's staggering to think that you might actually believe that people will take seriously the participation in a debate of a person who takes the kind of time necessary to individually color letters, sentences, paragraphs, abuse sizes and fonts, make visual messes of posts, and cackle, hum, and babble like a crazy person and yet flee like a frightened tit mouse from the most basic and simple questions regarding you arguments.
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Run, Sweaty, run...

? :scarper:
 
Yes. Yes, they do. Even when Bob where's different suits...

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_896149da772b378c7.jpg[/qimg][qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/thum_89614a13451fc1ffb.jpg[/qimg]
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Actually, Kitz, those are both the same suit. I am surprised on why you ignored sweaty's comparison of the 2 photos not matching up, and instead of looking at it, You chose 2 other comparisons to support your case.

I will give credit to Sweaty.

PS- those costumes really suck big time when compared to Patty
 
makaya325 said:
Actually, Kitz, those are both the same suit. I am surprised on why you ignored sweaty's comparison of the 2 photos not matching up, and instead of looking at it, You chose 2 other comparisons to support your case.[

I will give credit to Sweaty.

PS- those costumes really suck big time when compared to Patty
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Get back to us when you've mastered the art of reading.
 
makaya325 said:
Oh, I have, Kitz. Why dont you get back to me when you've mastered the art of Fairness.
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No, I don't think so. You need to go read post #1846 again however many times it takes for you to comprehend the part where I am not ignoring Sweaty's comparison. You need to also read and watch however many times necessary why the images and video that I show proving Bob's head easily able to fit in Patty's to not be showing separate skeletons and a completely sound direct comparison.

When you're thinking about fairness, you can think about ingoring images of Patty showing a cone head and a flat head. You can think about the fairness of fleeing from simple questions while constantly trying to get people to jump through ever dumber hoops. Or the fairness of dismissing the quality of a suit known to be worn by Bob Heironimus and ignoring the blatant indicators of a suit show in the flathead Patty image above.

And whyever do you think that the suits I posted are the same. You do know that Heironimus has twice donned a Morris suit, don't you?
 
And whyever do you think that the suits I posted are the same. You do know that Heironimus has twice donned a Morris suit, don't you?
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If you mean the PGF original suit and the Modified Morris suit, then yes. If you mean 2 different unrelated suits to the pgf, then no.

What would a real Bigfoot have to show for you to say "That can not be a suit"?

What do Gorillas in zoo's have that can not be replicated by Hollywood? Is it the Sheer muscle? The Canines? The vocal cords?
 
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makaya325 said:
Actually, Kitz, those are both the same suit. I am surprised on why you ignored sweaty's comparison of the 2 photos not matching up, and instead of looking at it, You chose 2 other comparisons to support your case.

I will give credit to Sweaty.

PS- those costumes really suck big time when compared to Patty
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Thanks for the support, Mak...:).

I think you hit the nail right on the head with your description...

"those costumes really suck big time..." ;)
 
SweatyYeti said:
I think you hit the nail right on the head with your description...
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I can think of some descriptions of Sweaty's participation in a debate. Honesty and sincerity are not among the words I would choose...

SweatyYeti said:
The bottom line is......nobody here can find a question that I will refuse to answer, or that I'm afraid to answer.

Go ahead........prove me wrong. :)
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SweatyYeti said:
Name a question or two. I'll answer them right away for you, LT.

The last time I invited people to ask me those "feared" questions, which I'm supposedly refusing to answer.....I got no takers.

This accusation is pure BS.

Go ahead.......prove me wrong......ask me a question I'm "afraid" to answer. :)
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Going on 2 1/2 weeks now. Meh... forget words. I think a picture can sum up Sweaty's participation here...

 
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