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9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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dudalb said:
His taste in music was not bad, but as far as art and literature go.....:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp
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Vat, Karl May ist not der height of grate lidurature?

As to Stalin, as long as it was big...he too aspired to be an artist...well thought of as a poet in his youth in Georgia. God save us from leaders "well thought of as poets in their youth."
 
I have come to the opinion that Failed Artist should NEVER be put in a postion of political power. The precedents are pretty damn bad.........
 
headscratcher4 said:
Vat, Karl May ist not der height of grate lidurature?

As to Stalin, as long as it was big...he too aspired to be an artist...well thought of as a poet in his youth in Georgia. God save us from leaders "well thought of as poets in their youth."
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Hell, May is even lousy from a "Light reading" point of view.
Lest I be accused of being a snob, I would like to point out I am a fan of Louis L'Amour's westerns. Of course, L;Amour knew who to tell a good story and was an expert on the American West, neither of which applies to May.
 
dudalb said:
Hell, May is even lousy from a "Light reading" point of view.
Lest I be accused of being a snob, I would like to point out I am a fan of Louis L'Amour's westerns. Of course, L;Amour knew who to tell a good story and was an expert on the American West, neither of which applies to May.
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Maybe because at the very least, L'Amour had actually spent time in the American west?
 
dudalb said:
I have come to the opinion that Failed Artist should NEVER be put in a position of political power. The precedents are pretty damn bad.........
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Hmmmm...

Julius Streicher -- elementary school teacher -- editor of Der Sturmer
Mussolini -- dictator of Italy -- author ("The Cardinal's Mistress")
Pol Pot -- history teacher -- 1.7 million dead.
Hitler -- painter, author ("Mein Kampf") -- 50 million dead
Stalin -- priest -- 50 million dead
Mao -- poet -- 70 million dead

I dunno. As Eddie Izzard said, these guys come out of left field, where you'd least expect them.
 
You forgot:

Goebles -- failed novelist
Rosenberg -- mediocre architect.

Your overstating Stalin priest. He never entered into holy orders. He was, however, a well thought of poet when a young man.
 
Just to be nit-picky, I don't believe Stalin ever graduated from seminary school to become a priest.
 
Just to be nit-picky...nor did he want to become a priest. He was at the seminary at quite a young age and because he showed some promise as a student. THey may have thought he would become a priest...no one suggests that Stalin showed anything other than contempt for the whole buisiness.
 
I too am a WWII Buff...Rosenberg was also an architect. I know' its Wiki, but from Wiki:

"Rosenberg studied architecture at the Riga Polytechnical Institute and engineering at Moscow Highest Technical School,[4] completing his Ph.D. studies in 1917. Buildings that he designed in this period still stand in the central part of Tallinn."

That completely comports with my memory of other sources.

And, yes, Speer was an architect, arguably not "failed" just bad.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
He was a vegetarian. Nuff said.
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Hitler was a vegetarian therefore the holocaust happened. Some fine logic indeed.

That said, he loved the smell of gassed Jews in the morning.
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Oh really? References? Sucked out of your left or right thumb?

Noticed you ignored what I posted earlier Investigator (In response to your claim there was no documentation supporting the gassing of those in camps):
[qimg]http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p297/ldl21/fred.jpg[/qimg]
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Here the issue is debated and thoroughly debunked:

http://www.codoh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5647&sid=cf625efb608a8f0725cd1900eccfca59

So far we have found five examples of "Vergasungs-" type words that are roughly contemporaneous to the above usage and are focused on Auschwitz and the SS.

First, Mattogno found a reference, dated July 13, 1941, in which the delousing spaces of BW 5a and 5b are referred to as a "Vergasungsraum".

Second, a travel order to pick up Zyklon B from a factory in Dessau, dated July 26, 1942, references "Gas zur Vergasung des Lagers, zur Bekämpfung der aufgetretenen Seuche, zu holen." That is, picking up the gas for the fumigation of the camp in the struggle against vermin. Since the order comes at the height of the typhus and typhoid epidemics the meaning is clearly not homicidal.

Third, a widely distributed circular from Commandant Höß, dated August 12, 1942, discusses an accident with Zyklon B during the fumigation of a barracks. (Pressac, ATO, p. 201, Ref: PMO, no reference) The one page special order contains two references to "vergasen" words, in one place referring to all those who took part in the gassing "allen an Vergasungen Beteiligten" and refers to the spaces gassed as "vergasten Räume". A similar order, from Doctor Wirths, dated December 10, 1943, describes a similar incident, but here the words used are "Entwesung" and "entwest", which supports the argument that "vergasen" was used as a synonym not only for "begasen" (fumigate) but also "entwesen" (disinfect). (Source: 502-1-8, p. 25)

Fourth, the diary of Dr. Kremer, for September 1, 1942, contains the following entry: "Nachmittags bei der Vergasung eines Blocks mit Zyklon B gegen die Läuse." That is, "In the afternoon attended the fumigation of a barracks with Zyklon B against lice."

Fifth, a circular from Dr. Mrugowsky from the SS Hygiene Institute, dated May 13, 1943, reads as follows:

"In the future therefore, cyanide gas can only be used for the fumigation of barracks in the concentration camps."

http://www.codoh.com/gcgv/gcvergas2.html
 
9/11-investigator said:
Hitler was a vegetarian therefore the holocaust happened. Some fine logic indeed.



Oh really? References? Sucked out of your left or right thumb?



Here the issue is debated and thoroughly debunked:

http://www.codoh.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5647&sid=cf625efb608a8f0725cd1900eccfca59

So far we have found five examples of "Vergasungs-" type words that are roughly contemporaneous to the above usage and are focused on Auschwitz and the SS.

First, Mattogno found a reference, dated July 13, 1941, in which the delousing spaces of BW 5a and 5b are referred to as a "Vergasungsraum".

Second, a travel order to pick up Zyklon B from a factory in Dessau, dated July 26, 1942, references "Gas zur Vergasung des Lagers, zur Bekämpfung der aufgetretenen Seuche, zu holen." That is, picking up the gas for the fumigation of the camp in the struggle against vermin. Since the order comes at the height of the typhus and typhoid epidemics the meaning is clearly not homicidal.

Third, a widely distributed circular from Commandant Höß, dated August 12, 1942, discusses an accident with Zyklon B during the fumigation of a barracks. (Pressac, ATO, p. 201, Ref: PMO, no reference) The one page special order contains two references to "vergasen" words, in one place referring to all those who took part in the gassing "allen an Vergasungen Beteiligten" and refers to the spaces gassed as "vergasten Räume". A similar order, from Doctor Wirths, dated December 10, 1943, describes a similar incident, but here the words used are "Entwesung" and "entwest", which supports the argument that "vergasen" was used as a synonym not only for "begasen" (fumigate) but also "entwesen" (disinfect). (Source: 502-1-8, p. 25)

Fourth, the diary of Dr. Kremer, for September 1, 1942, contains the following entry: "Nachmittags bei der Vergasung eines Blocks mit Zyklon B gegen die Läuse." That is, "In the afternoon attended the fumigation of a barracks with Zyklon B against lice."

Fifth, a circular from Dr. Mrugowsky from the SS Hygiene Institute, dated May 13, 1943, reads as follows:

"In the future therefore, cyanide gas can only be used for the fumigation of barracks in the concentration camps."

http://www.codoh.com/gcgv/gcvergas2.html
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Zyklon B is fatal to humans, just like Rat poison.

Would you put rat poison into someone's home?
 
So, what you are saying is we should be very suspicious of that guy in the coffee shop with radical political views who majored in Philosophy in college and lists his profession as "in a band"?
 
9/11-investigator said:
Walrus claims without any reference to the source:


Hitler:
Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows—at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example—as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.

Link please.
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Undesired Walrus said:
What's the point? You'll just ignore it, like you do any with any link I provide when you scream citation.

Anyway, citation: Josef Bell, "Aufzeichnung," 1922, ZS 640, p. 5, Institut für Zeitgeschichte.
http://www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/annihilation.html

Or if that doesn't push your buttons:
Hitler: Sports Palace in Berlin, 21st January 1939
'And we say that the war will not end as the Jews imagine it will, namely with the uprooting of the Aryans, but the result of this war will be the complete annihilation of the Jews'
http://fcit.usf.edu/HOLOCAUST/resource/document/DocJewQn.htm

Or:

Hitler: The Reichstag, 31st January 1939
'Today I want to be a prophet once more: if international Jewish financiers inside and outside Europe again succeed in plunging the nations into a world war, the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth and with it the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe!'
http://www.holocaust-history.org/der-ewige-jude/hitler-19390130.shtml

Just an inexplicable coincidence then, those camps.

On 'Vergassungskeller' (which unambiguously translates to mean a homicidal gassing chamber), have you not watched the film I kindly provided you with? That you haven't seen the source is thus your fault, not mine.
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Two pages later, still no surprise. Just keep your eyes and ears shut investigator.
 
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