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jsfisher said:
I see you understand neither the term paradox nor straw man.

Be that as it may, doesn't it bother you the tiniest bit that in your "stripping off the straw man's clothing" you get the wrong result?
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No,

When stripping off the straw man's clothing (means: rejecting your wrong argument about me as if I use a straw man) we discover your naked king.
 
doronshadmi said:
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Ok, response noted. The fact OM gives you incorrect results doesn't bother you at all.

I am not surprised that OM is unconstrained by issues of reality.

When stripping off the straw man's clothing (means: rejecting your wrong argument about me as if I use a straw man) we discover your naked king.
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This, sir, is your best sentence, ever. EVER!
 
Wow! I return here to find Doron has an actual worked example of OM... which resolves Zeno's paradox by telling us that the Achilles will never catch the turtle, and none of us can ever go anywhere... :boggled:

I can certainly see how that would stop anyone doing anything bad - we'd all just starve to death where we stood :D
 
I see Doron continues with his peculiar behaviour. That 5 page document on scribd is now a 9 page document. I think he's just pasted something on the end (the 'paper' from above, I think, together with the spurious references), not shown any workings of his OM 'solution'.

At one point he seems to be arguing that under certain conditions Achilles and the tortoise do not exist...
 
Ok, what are the best quotes from the document. Here's my first find:

Doron in WZATRP8 (9-page version) said:
Organism means that any possible expression exists at-once together with the entire expressions, such that each expression enables the non-trivial further development of the rest of the expressions.[sic]
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The man is a master.
 
Doron in WZATRP8 (9-page version) said:
The Loop K ∞ realm is totally Non-local, but then Achilles or the Turtle do not
exist, since totally Non-local realm does not enable the existence of localities like Achilles
or the Turtle. So also at that extreme ∞ realm there are no compotators and therefore no
Race.
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I like 'compotators'; I must try to think of a use for it.

Oh, and don't bother leaving comments on scribd, Doron will remove them if he doesn't like them.
 
zooterkin said:
I like 'compotators'; I must try to think of a use for it.

Oh, and don't bother leaving comments on scribd, Doron will remove them if he doesn't like them.
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Not if they are dealing in details with the content of the paper.
 
doronshadmi said:
Not if they are dealing in details with the content of the paper.
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Nonsense. You deny any honest criticism. Consider my accusation your work is riddled with straw men. You denied it. Yet, your very first sentence begins, "Most of the current community of mathematicians argue that...." A straw man.
 
jsfisher said:
Nonsense. You deny any honest criticism. Consider my accusation your work is riddled with straw men. You denied it. Yet, your very first sentence begins, "Most of the current community of mathematicians argue that...." A straw man.
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Why it is a straw man?

I don't see any meaningful details in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4924305&postcount=5356 .

No detailed criticism, no honest criticism.

For example zooterkin wrote something like: "You gave the wrong answer, can you try again?"

Come on this is a lazy criticism, and therefore erased.
 
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doronshadmi said:
Why it is a straw man?
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Perhaps the definition of the term would help you to answer this question yourself directly.

I don't see any meaningful details in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4924305&postcount=5356 .
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This isn't really surprising, now is it, since you don't understand the terms used.

No detailed criticism, no honest criticism.
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The post was directed at Apathia despite your insistence on being the center of attention. Be that as it may, though, you great epistles are far too riddled with errors for anyone to waste their time trying to expose all of them. We are not your school teachers. We are not obligated to correct you errant work.

However, we can, if we so choose, point out whatever significant flaws we like. Your argument from straw man positions is one such significant flaw.

For example zooterkin wrote something like: "You gave the wrong answer, can you try again?"

Come on this is a lazy criticism, and therefore erased.
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How is that lazy? You did give the wrong answer. It is pretty cut-and-dried. Zooterkin points that out, and your response is, "Yeah? Well, you're lazy! So there!" Problem solved through superior school-yard taunting?
 
doronshadmi said:
This is a typical interpretation of a person that does not get direct perception.

At the level of direction perception, there cannot disagreements between different verbal-based points of view, because direct perception is the natural core of any verbal-based expressions, and a notion that is based on direct-perception is naturally non-personal.

Since you get what I just wrote only on the level of thoughts you interpret them as:

"Doron uses direct perception in order to be beyond any criticism, and by doing that he of course can't be wrong, because each time when some one shows his inconsistencies and contradictions, he immediately use his direct perception winning card".

Well jsfisher, since you unaware of your own natural abilities to use direct perception as the natural basis of your mental expressions, all you get is exactly what is written above.
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What do you mean by "direct-perception"? Are you talking about some intuitive grasp of numbers, or something? :confused:
 
jsfisher said:
However, we can, if we so choose, point out whatever significant flaws we like. Your argument from straw man positions is one such significant flaw
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Please do that, in details.

I do not see any support about your straw man argument against me, which is realted to the details of my work.

Here it is:
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Most of the current community of mathematicians argue that Zeno's Achilles\Turtle Race is not a paradox in the real life because we can summarize non-finite values (where each value > 0) that are added to some initial value. By doing that we are able to get an accurate value, which is different from the initial value. For example: 1 is the initial value and 1+1/2+1/4+1/8+…= 2, where 2 is an accurate value that is different from the initial value 1. Actually the whole idea of Limits is somehow motivated by the desire to solve the Zeno's Paradox.
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Please explain in details, why it is a straw man?
 
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AkuManiMani said:
What do you mean by "direct-perception"? Are you talking about some intuitive grasp of numbers, or something? :confused:
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No, I am talking about the simplest state of mind of your mental activity, which is the base ground of any mantel activity whether it is Intuition, Logical reasoning, Fillings, Sensory input etc …
 
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