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9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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You know, there is something about this whole Holocaust denial and Hitler worship I don´t get.

On one hand, our little Hitler fanboys say that the jews are the embodiment of evil, that they caused every bad thing that ever happened and are the greatest threat western civilization ever faced, caused Germany to lose WW1 etc etc etc.

On the other hand, they claim that Hitler, that oh-so-great savior of western civilization, did NOT take any of the steps necessary to save western civilization from what they consider the greatest threat it ever faced. Some even claim that Hitler was the best friend the jews ever had.

Yet still, this wimp, this appeaser, this spineless cowards who refused to act against the greatest and most dangerous manifestation of evil in all history, is their role model, their hero, their poster boy for all a great statesman should ever be.

I just don´t get it.
 
Undesired Walrus said:
And can you declare that all of those killed did such work? Seriously, that is a daft argument.
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No civilian workforce, no economy. No economy, no German military. It's that simple.

Militaries, especially those of industrialized nation-states, consume prodigious quantities of resources and raw materials in their operation, and require prodigious quantities in their production. Without the civilian economy supplying that, there is no military.

None of this is to suggest that one cannot find legitimate criticisms of the conduct of the bomber offensive; certainly it had its share of mistakes.
 
Chaos said:
On the other hand, they claim that Hitler, that oh-so-great savior of western civilization, did NOT take any of the steps necessary to save western civilization from what they consider the greatest threat it ever faced. Some even claim that Hitler was the best friend the jews ever had.
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and some folks actually argue that Hitler was funded by Jewish bankers and Zionists.

its a strange...strange world.
 
9/11-investigator said:
True. It is fine to give links, nay even necessary to back up claims. But I also want you yourself to formulate the core of your argument making sure that your and my time investments are somewhat in balance.
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That's a novel attempt, but all you're doing is ignoring my pointing out how you continue to dodge making your case. You keep playing this game of baiting with outrageous language (like "bunnycaust") and arguments from incredulity (ever-changing list of "one thing" you demand to be shown) without ever actually formulating any argument yourself. Sure, you parrot other denier/revisionists, but you're not putting anything together into an argument.

You keep making snide comments and implying an unimpeachable argument: so present it already.
 
9/11-investigator said:
What do you mean 'baiting'?

This is a discussion forum, so discuss or go away. Don't spoil the thread with meta-trifle.
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Has the nazi ever explained why his heroes never thought of denying that the Holocaust happened? Seems kind of odd that they, being on trial for their lives, argued that they were just following orders if the crime never even happened. Perhaps they were brainwashed by the super jooooos?
 
NWO Sentryman said:
The Jews do not run the United States. Go back to Stormfront.

The Jews don't run the west. Why is there such anti-israeli/anti-semitic sentiments in Europe.
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A question none of those anti-semists ever answered:

If the Jews indeed run the world and have managed to undermine every single country, most media outlets, the whole economy etc, etc....

If a couple of Jews where able to pull this off, get away with it and continue it for decades/centuries....

...would that not mean that Jews are super-intelligent Uebermenschen? How else to explain it?
 
lionking said:
One of the more idiotic posts I've seen in some time. You missed out on a job you were not qualified for, so you fantasise about Siemens today being even remotely similar to Siemens 60+ years ago.
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No, I missed out on a job I was highly qualified for, but the guy interviewing me was a salesman with no real technical qualifications. It was like being rejected for a job as a carpenter because my circular saw experience was with DeWalt and not Ryobi.

And 60 years later they are still sleazy, having agreed to pay $1.34 BILLION in fines in a bribery case.


ETA: I must admit that I have worked for companies that were among From Those Wonderful Folks Who Gave You Pearl Harbor, but sour grapesing is fun.
 
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I am still waiting for 9-11's idea of what actually happened during WW2.

or do we need "another investigation"????
 
9/11-investigator said:
Americans and geography.

I never heard from a St. Pauli girl, but for your information St. Pauli is a harbor quarter in Hamburg, Germany.

You do remember your president Kennedy saying in German: 'Ich bin ein Hamburger', do you? :D
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The Dutch and common sense.

Enigma's reference had nothing to do with geography.

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Chaos said:
You know, there is something about this whole Holocaust denial and Hitler worship I don´t get.

On one hand, our little Hitler fanboys say that the jews are the embodiment of evil, that they caused every bad thing that ever happened and are the greatest threat western civilization ever faced, caused Germany to lose WW1 etc etc etc.

On the other hand, they claim that Hitler, that oh-so-great savior of western civilization, did NOT take any of the steps necessary to save western civilization from what they consider the greatest threat it ever faced. Some even claim that Hitler was the best friend the jews ever had.

Yet still, this wimp, this appeaser, this spineless cowards who refused to act against the greatest and most dangerous manifestation of evil in all history, is their role model, their hero, their poster boy for all a great statesman should ever be.

I just don´t get it.
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One better...the neo nazi scum worship hitler for his desire to exterminate the jews but they either deny or try to lessen the dead making their god a dismal failure.
 
The Nazis could at least have the balls to admit that the Holocaust did happen, they are glad it happened, and they only pray that there is another one soon.

But modern day Nazis are cowards.
 
9/11-investigator said:
The Germans found the mass grave of the executed Polish officers a year or so after the murderous act (it was a lie upheld by both the Russians and the noble Allies until relatively recently that these Poles were murdered by the Germans).
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From New York Times, July 3, 1952:

WASHINGTON, July 2 -- A special committee of the House of Representatives announced today its finding that "the Soviet N. K. V. D. [People's Commissariat of Internal Affairs] committed the massacre of thousands of Polish Army officers in the Katyn Forest near Smolensk, Russia, not later than the spring of 1940."
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Ya know, I am wondering. The Jews are super smart, super organised, super controlling of Europe, the US etc etc

How come Pallistine still exists?
 
The hell with that. They wrote the world's best-selling book -- and never got a dime in royalties.
 
Skeptic said:
The hell with that. They wrote the world's best-selling book -- and never got a dime in royalties.
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Who needs money when you control the worlds banking system. And looking at the current state of affairs they suck at that too
 
9/11-investigator said:
Churchill ended it all with his declaration of war on Germany.

Read Buchanan.
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Actually, don't.

That book is a waste of time, since Buchanan seems hell-bent on blaming everything on the British and French while excusing both the German empire and Nazi Germany as much as possible.

He even argues that France and Great Britain should have ignored the German military expansions of the 1930's, and allowed Hitler to have his war with the Soviet Union without the worry of two fronts, believing that it would have saved millions of lives. The fact is that approx half of all military deaths (16 million out of ~30 million) of World War II, along with 1/4 of all civilian deaths (11 million out of 44 million, Holocaust not included) happened on the Eastern Front.

That's a total of 27 million people who were killed. And then one can start speculating what would have happened, especially if the Germans had advanced to the Urals and created the Lebensraum they so desperately wanted. How many more million deaths would THAT have taken? And how many more jews would have "mysteriously vanished" :boggled:

ETA: What my grinds my gear the most, though, is that Buchanan claims that the Holocaust would not have happened if Great Britain and France had not declared war on Germany.
 
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