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9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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Let me tell you something, the holocaust by bullets is something you should look into. Father Patrick desbois is currently trawling the fields of ukraine, belarus and Russia for victims fo your einstzgruppe.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6346012.ece

As for Wiesenthal, that is a non-sequitur. Just because a figurehead like wiesenthal is landered and muddied does not invalidate the MOUNTAINS of evidence for the holocaust.

Just because he lied about his own personal story does not make the damning evidence of the holocaust vanish away.
 
Wiesenthal being a fraud does nothing to change the fact that Holocaust deniers are evil liars and literally the scum of the Earth.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Mind you that Wiesenthal, together with Elie Wiesel and Deborah Lipstadt, constituted the core of the holocaust movement. It's good to know that an important member of the MSM as The Times now acknowledges the true nature of this pathetic liar.
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Talking about Elie Wiesel, it has been recently established that the other high priest of the holocaust, Elie Wiesel, is a complete fraud as well. The beauty is that this has been done by honest Jews (Makow and Gruner. Makow has approvingly incorporated my 9/11 blog in his essay. Ctrl/F for 'critical role').

Wiesel, the guy who at any time is willing to drop by and tell everybody how horrible the holocaust was for the meager tip of merely 45,000$ (all credit cards accepted). And he does that so skillfully that he even received a Nobel Price for at. In doing so the Nobel Institute has made a laughing stock out of itself.

What happened? Here is the story:

http://www.henrymakow.com/translated_from_the_hungarian.html

Mister Miklos Gruner now testifies that Saint Wiesel based his life time story on a stolen identity and that our nobel friend Wiesel never saw a concentation camp from the inside.

Unfortunately our friend Elie Wiesel has yet to respond to the accusations made by mr Gruner. Not very likely he ever will.

Short summary: here is one of the most famous photos from the holocaust:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dc/Buchenwald_Slave_Laborers_Liberation.jpg

The gentleman below/left if Miklos Gruner. According to the not so great Wiesel himself he is the gentleman on the second level, 7th from the left (just left from the vertical pole). And indeed that man looks a bit old for a 17 year old (Wiesel was born in 1928). The real Lazar Wiesel was 31 in 1944. Gruner does indeed look as a 16 year old.

The accusation of Gruner at the address of Elie Wiesel is not only that Elie W. is not the Lazar Wiesel from the picture, but also that Elie W. has used the book that the real Lazar Wiesel wrote in Hungarian and had published in Paris simply used for his own world renowned book 'Night' (with Diary of Anne Frank-kinda status) with which he won his Nobel Price. Can you imagine that? He not only was never in a concentration camp but also his Nobel Price winning book was based on plagiary!!!

This is the holocaust for you: the two main pillars Wiesel and Wiesenthal exposed as complete frauds.

Elie Wiesel as the Bernie Maddof of the holocaust-industry. One wonders when the American government has to consider a bailout of yet another failed industry.

 
 
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Elie Wiesel and Wiesenthal may be liars, but that does not make the overwhelming evidence presented against you vanish away.

Just because they lied about their personal experiences does not mean they lied about the holocaust.

You lie about something, that means you never tell the truth. By that logic, no-one ever tells the truth.

Furthermore, you are making ad hominem attacks against people.

Play the ball, not the player.
 
dtugg said:
Wiesenthal being a fraud does nothing to change the fact that Holocaust deniers are evil liars and literally the scum of the Earth.
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And you still want to uphold your claim that you are an 'African American'? You are quite concerned with the survival of the holocaust narrative, is it not?

Why don't you draw a number and line up behind Wiesel and Wiesenthal.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
Let me tell you something, the holocaust by bullets is something you should look into. Father Patrick desbois is currently trawling the fields of ukraine, belarus and Russia for victims fo your einstzgruppe.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6346012.ece
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Short documentary video here:

http://www.cbc.ca/national/blog/video/internationalus/holocaust_by_bullets.html

Holocaust deniers are inviting similar atrocities in the future. Let us never forget.
 
NWO Sentryman said:
Let me tell you something, the holocaust by bullets is something you should look into. Father Patrick desbois is currently trawling the fields of ukraine, belarus and Russia for victims fo your einstzgruppe.
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Well, let's patiently wait for the results of the good father then.

The Germans found the mass grave of the executed Polish officers a year or so after the murderous act (it was a lie upheld by both the Russians and the noble Allies until relatively recently that these Poles were murdered by the Germans).

Uhh, question: I earlier admitted that the Germans had killed hundreds of thousands at the Eastern Front. But was I too quick? Has there been ever found a mass grave comparable to Kathyn related to these shootings? Why is this father still searching, almost 70 years later?

This is a real question, not rhetorical.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
Well, let's patiently wait for the results of the good father then.

The Germans found the mass grave of the executed Polish officers a year or so after the murderous act (it was a lie upheld by both the Russians and the noble Allies until relatively recently that these Poles were murdered by the Germans).

Uhh, question: I earlier admitted that the Germans had killed hundreds of thousands at the Eastern Front. But was I too quick? Has there been ever found a mass grave comparable to Kathyn related to these shootings? Why is this father still searching, almost 70 years later?

This is a real question, not rhetorical.
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Father Desbois was investigating a mystery in his family when he learned of this section of the holocaust that was rarely talked of.

One massacre bigger than Katyn Forest 4 fold was Babi Yar, in Ukraine. up to 100,000 people were massacred because of their ethnicity.

We can expect to have up to 7 million jewish deaths in the holocaust.

Hundreds of thousands? have you ever heard of Generalplan Ost, a plan to kill MILLIONS of russians and ukranians. Rudolph Rummel estimates c. 21 million people were killed in the holocaust. It looks like he may have to revise upward that number after the priest's results are finalised.
 
So did everyone at Babi Yar just suffer from one huge collective mass heart attack while conveniently touring a ravine?
 
9/11-investigator said:
And you still want to uphold your claim that you are an 'African American'? You are quite concerned with the survival of the holocaust narrative, is it not?

Why don't you draw a number and line up behind Wiesel and Wiesenthal.
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No, nazi, not everybody that finds your evil lies disgusting is a jooo. In fact, every normal person thinks that your evil lies are digusting.

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That photo will simply reinforce 9/11 investigator's view that you are a Jew.

After all, we have learnt from him that Jews fake everything from Nazi documentation to physical evidence. What's one more picture?
 
NWO Sentryman said:
Father Desbois was investigating a mystery in his family when he learned of this section of the holocaust that was rarely talked of.
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Never heard of this Desbois character before but a handful of minutes of reading up on him doesn't stem one optimistic that this guy makes many valuable contributions to forensic science.

First of all: no revisionist I know of denies that hundreds of thousands of Jews were rounded up and shot at the Eastern Front. And that this event constitutes a mega-crime.

About Desbois:

http://www.codoh.com/newsite/sr/online/sr_161.pdf

First, Desbois admits that he does not systematically excavate the supposed mass graves he comes upon: he told the audience he merely opens a supposed grave to determine the presence of human remains there, then closes it up—lest, he claims, he infringe upon alleged Jewish religious pro-hibitions against disturbing the dead.

Desbois claims in The Holocaust by Bullets to have collected German cartridges—but evidently not bul-lets—near some of the alleged graves. But as Faurisson has noted, the Soviets used German bullets at Katyn, so that the cartridges, even if genuine, do not necessarily im-plicate the Germans.

Let's not forget the Ukraine was a killing field for the American precious ally the Soviets as well. The Jewish butcher Lazar Kaganovich was responsible for the death of million of Ukrainians (Holomodor). Hopefully Desbois is able to distinguish between those deaths and the ones killed by the Germans. Don't hold your breath.

More from Faurisson:

http://www.rense.com/general80/furg.htm

But there's something more astonishing still: these supposed mass graves will not be dug open; no disinterment or any material verification will be carried out, all under the admirable pretence that the Jewish religion prohibits the touching of Jewish corpses; however, it's enough to look in the Encyclopedia Judaica (1978)? at the entry "Autopsies [plural]? and Dissection [singular]?" to see that there is no such prohibition at all. Only at a single location, Busk outside Lvov, have fifteen common graves been dug open, but none of the skeletons found there were examined and the sites were all covered over with a thick layer of concrete, meaning no authentication will be very possible in future!...

Have you noted how each time a common grave is discovered in Russia and trouble is taken to make an examination, it's found that it contains victims of Stalin and not of Hitler?
 
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9/11-investigator said:
Never heard of this Desbois character before but a handful of minutes of reading up on him doesn't stem one optimistic that this guy makes many valuable contributions to forensic science.

First of all: no revisionist I know of denies that hundreds of thousands of Jews were rounded up and shot at the Eastern Front. And that this event constitutes a mega-crime.

About Desbois:

http://www.codoh.com/newsite/sr/online/sr_161.pdf

First, Desbois admits that he does not systematically excavate the supposed mass graves he comes upon: he told the audience he merely opens a supposed grave to determine the presence of human remains there, then closes it up—lest, he claims, he infringe upon alleged Jewish religious pro-hibitions against disturbing the dead.

Desbois claims in The Holocaust by Bullets to have collected German cartridges—but evidently not bul-lets—near some of the alleged graves. But as Faurisson has noted, the Soviets used German bullets at Katyn, so that the cartridges, even if genuine, do not necessarily im-plicate the Germans.

Let's not forget the Ukraine was a killing field for the American precious ally the Soviets as well. The Jewish butcher Lazar Kaganovich was responsible for the death of million of Ukrainians (Holomodor). Hopefully
Desbois is able to distinguish between those deaths and the ones killed by the Germans.
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Cartridges are spent bullets. A shell, if you will.

Ballistics experts can differentiate between russian and german bullets by calibre, bullet width, bullet size and bullet shape.

Yes he can, the people in the holodomor were starved to death. They were buried in their own graves. whereas we are talking about MASS graves, and in the documentary D'rok linked to, we see a mass grave being unearthed.

And hat desbois is talking about is moving the graves.

You distort quotes, you make ad hominem attacks.

Desbois has uncovered upward 800 mass graves.

Russians used German bullets. That does not mean Germans used Russian bullets.

Carbon dating and other forensic methods can pin a date on the corpses, when they were buried. The Nazis controlled much of ukraine.
 
9/11 investigator STILL hasn't answered my question.

Where have all the grandparents, aunts, uncles, and older siblings in my dad's neighborhood go to? What happened to everybody's extended family?
 
NWO Sentryman said:
One massacre bigger than Katyn Forest 4 fold was Babi Yar, in Ukraine. up to 100,000 people were massacred because of their ethnicity.
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According to Wikipedia there were 33,771 victims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
So I wonder from which nostril you pulled that 100,000 number.

But I hope that you do realize that the supposed massacre carried out by the Germans took place on 29-30 September 1941, 4 months before the Wannsee conference where the alleged extermination plan was decided upon. Don't you see that there is a little bit of a problem here?

Most likely Babi Yar is another Kathyn Forest story, a crime committed by the NKVD blamed on the Germans.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/BabiYar/Nikiforuk.html
 
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Skeptic said:
9/11 investigator STILL hasn't answered my question.

Where have all the grandparents, aunts, uncles, and older siblings in my dad's neighborhood go to? What happened to everybody's extended family?
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I have no idea. America? Australia? Died in a camp from typhus?
 
9/11-investigator said:
According to Wikipedia there were 33,771 victims.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babi_Yar
So I wonder from which nostril you pulled that 100,000 number.

But I hope that you do realize that the supposed massacre carried out bu the German took place on 29-30 September 1941, 4 months before the Wannsee conference where the alleged extermination plan was decided upon. Don't you see that there is a little bit of a problem here?

Most likely Babi Yar is another Kathyn Forest story, a crime committed by the NKVD blamed on the Germans.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/BabiYar/Nikiforuk.html
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Nope, nope, nope. Wikipedia said AT LEAST 100000.

The Nazis already had einsatzgruppe formed. They were before the gas chambers. It was because of the mental strain on the SS units that the Wannsee conference was convened for the "final solution". As the Red Army was approaching Kiev, the Nazis ordered Jewish prisoners to dig up the corpses, presumably for disposal (and before you say crematoria, there is more than one way to dispose of a body such as crushing, grinding, open fire pits, acid, reburying the corpses etc.)
 
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