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The Most Foolish Theory in Physics

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I am absolutely sure that (even with the alternative theories flying around) that big bang is one of the most erreneous theories ever created. And here is why.

So i will go over the big bang from a quantum viewpoint, and show how its ridiculous claims have been more complicated to condition the big bang into a workble theory. It seems that big bang originally caused more problems than what it solves.

The First Incongruity

Is the Universe in Ground State or an Excited State?

A ground state object is when it arranges it's inhabitents to a specific harmony in which ''tunes'' the use of these components to use as very little energy as possible. When concerning some birth of the universe, did the universe choose to be in a ground state?

In the principle of least action, it seems that a ground state universe would have begun much like the laws that govern a ground state atom. An atom in a ground state will arrange it's electrons to a specific frequency which allows it to yield as little energy as possible. But to do this, it would need to make sure to give up certain properties of location with respect with one another (1).

If our universe did begin in a ground state then the laws of physics cannot permit it to have any unique radius or time, or even a beginning. A ground state universe could not have begun therego as a singular region (2) in spacetime with a sturcture similar to a black hole. Instead of a singular region in the center of this black hole, there would be a wormhole at its center.

If it didn't it would have to have chosen an excited state, where there will be a point eventually where the universe will quantum leap into a new state, and a catastrophic reduction of energy will unfold. This means that the energy contained in this universe could in the future vanish totally from this spacetime realm, and quite possibly ''seep'' through womrholes into another universe which is in a ground state.

The second Incongruity

There was not enough time to start the universe!

The second problem, after visiting whether this universe began in a ground state of an excited state arises from how much time the universe was allowed initially to begin with. In fact, according to the models we originally worked with, the universe began with a finite and yet small radius - about the size of a human blood cell. But as we are reminded by Doctor Wolf, as small as this was, it still was not small enough to allow time present to account for photons to reach all the spacetime we observe today. It's not enough time therego to allow a balanced condition in the background micrwave temperatures to be homogeneous (3).

The Third Incongruity

The universe had to expand faster than light!

So, because we have a model of the big bang which did not fit the discription of what we are observing in the vast universe, we had to allow even more changes. To give the universe more time, we have to begin it from a much smaller size, but to also balance (a reasonably smooth background radiation), we also had to invite the idea of the particle called the Inflaton, and an entirely new and almost proposterous concept called The Inflationary Phase of the universe where spacetime expanded faster than the speed of light. Fine tuning opportunists took hold of this an asked exactly why inflation began when it did. But more importantly, if inflation is just a mathematical trick which it seems to be then a beginning of time is very troublesome for any modern day concept of big bang.

The Fourth Incongruity

Something Came from Nothing?

And yet, this is the best to come. With the New Physics overuling the classical, we could no longer think of the universe beginning as simply as saying ''it just came into existence.'' With the wave function governing every possibility in the universe, we now have to deal with an absurd model where the universe had at its disposal, an infinite amount of choices it could have chose from... infinitely a many amount of universe which could never have sustained life, and an infinite amount of universes which could, and even an infinite amount of possibilities where the universe simply wouldn't have shown up at all.

The problem here is simple. Why this universe out of so many?

The Fifth Incongruity

Parallel Universes and its Conceptual Nonesense

To answer this problem, many scientists have adopted the parallel universe model of physics to reconcile why this universe came into existence. It seems that from this particular model, each and every universe that was a possibility did come into existence. But the consequences are almost just as bizarre, because not only do we have equally many universes (an infinite amount to be exact), we also have an infinite amount of universe overlapping each other in a myriad of superpositining where everytime something comes into contact with anything else, or even a mere observation would send all these superpoitioned univeres flying apart, and then to emerge again with new born universes. It's like having a coin. Flip a coin, and not only do the universes fly apart, but in this universe you are left with either a heads or a tails, but at the same time, an entire universe has been created ''somewhere out there,'' where you are standing with the opposite result. If you think that is strange, imagine you stopped to flip a coin a hundred times... you would create exactly 1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376 universes! That is by scientific notation, a little over 10^30 to be exact, you would create universe possibilities have been turned into the real manifestation just as much as ours!

This easy creation of universes disturbs many physicists, and most of all, one of the largest proponents whom it disturbed came in the skin called Fred Hoyle, a famous astrophysicist who took his contempt for the beginning of the universe to grave.

(1) - See Wolf's ''Parallel Universes, 1985'' pg 192
(2) - A singularity says that some point of spacetime possesses a negative region where every peice of matter and every bit of energy and even the spacetime itself is blown into unimaginal proportions.
(3) - Actually, we often read that the background temperatures aka (the radiation in all parts of the universe) is homogeneous and smooth. We are often not told however that it is not completely smooth. We have to allow about a degree of a 1000th part of error in each direction of the universe.
 
No, the most foolish theory in physics is the round earth theory. If it was true all the people in Australia would fall off the bottom. See, if I can't understand it, then it must be wrong.

I think that my lack of knowledge of physics trumps physicists' knowledge of physics any day. They may have their fancy book-larnin', but I've got something even more powerful ... ignorance.
 
As a non-physicists, I detected multiple errors in your post within minutes of reading it. Sorry, bub. You have no idea what you're talking about.
 
Singularitarian, please check out one of yrreg's threads. I think you could both have a fruitful conversation.
 
Oh, I thought this was going to be about Machine Elves.
 
No, the most foolish theory in physics is the round earth theory. If it was true all the people in Australia would fall off the bottom. See, if I can't understand it, then it must be wrong.

I think that my lack of knowledge of physics trumps physicists' knowledge of physics any day. They may have their fancy book-larnin', but I've got something even more powerful ... ignorance.

Except, with world arising with a population of many scientists, what is our excuse for entrtaining the theory so long?

The exuse of the ancients who lived before us, working on novice alchemy, vivisections on dogs whilst still alive, and believing a many array of unedeveloped science, at least the latter has an explanation to why to believe outrageous theories.
 
As a non-physicists, I detected multiple errors in your post within minutes of reading it. Sorry, bub. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Multiple errors I have a Diploma in Physics, but i will accept this as a challenge, for i do enjoy a good challenge.

Why don't you raise the point of any erreneous statement, and i will counter it - how about that for a fair analysis of who has mde mistakes?

I hold you to putting your money where your mouth is.
 
My chicken mcnugget number is higher than yours...
 
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Could someone who knows more about physics than I do explain what the scientific community's refutations would be to these arguments?
 
It's a bowl of word salad based on complete misunderstanding of physics. You might as well try to refute Yes lyrics.

Dave


Look bub, eat your own words or take mine as a man; take you pick.

You say my wordsare salad: The most increadible thing here is that you have not provided any contrary evidence to my claims. Put your money where your mouth is, and lets have a scientfic discussion, if you can. :eye-poppi
 
I don't understand why you go on about the Universe choosing stuff...it is not a living being, is it?
Or do you hold the belief the Universe is alive with free will?

Or are you in the "god did it camp"?

Also this bit "The problem here is simple. Why this universe out of so many?"
My question would be why not?
Why did you get those genes from your mom and dad?Switch out some of the genes you got from half your moms gene pool for some of the other ones...who would you be then?A woman perhaps? (I did go by the assumtion that you are male if you aren't please just adapt my wording accordingly)

As for the actual physics, I am in no way qualified to answer.
 
You may want to ponder on this for a little bit and see if you can come up with your own answer.

It's ... ..

... not as straight-cut like you assume here, as too many variables plague what can be decisively acquired. For instance, it's a matter of semantics and general experimental confirmation of parts of the theory. If we follow this theory because it ''seems'' best, we are no wiser to believe this since we know quantum mechanics is beyond usually the comprehensible. Invariable it also means that a rising popularity has contributed to this, and as a larger camp form in praising this theory for its minor successes, it still seems we do it out of pure faith. That's my conclusion.
 

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