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MosheKlein said:
How exectly you are going to killed a living organism like Mathematics?
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Actually, to kill something you need it to be a living organism in the first place.

But I was pertaining to this thread, which I stated quite concisely, I think. Not the Organic Mathematics Blob.
 
MosheKlein said:
This forum is no less then a presentation of Mathematics as a living organism !
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No, very much not true. This whole thread includes from you and Doron nothing no less than a bunch of baseless assertions. You provide no serviceable definitions of your terms, and you provide evidence to support your assertions.

Worse, you provide no examples that demonstrate your pipe dream has any practical application -- just more baseless assertions.
 
jsfisher said:
No, very much not true. This whole thread includes from you and Doron nothing no less than a bunch of baseless assertions. You provide no serviceable definitions of your terms, and you provide evidence to support your assertions.

Worse, you provide no examples that demonstrate your pipe dream has any practical application -- just more baseless assertions.
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x@y=x^(log(y))
 
jsfisher said:
No, very much not true. This whole thread includes from you and Doron nothing no less than a bunch of baseless assertions. You provide no serviceable definitions of your terms, and you provide evidence to support your assertions.

Worse, you provide no examples that demonstrate your pipe dream has any practical application -- just more baseless assertions.
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Direct it or not get it.

Definition is nothing but verbal rolling wave upon the silence of the Sea's depth.

Your shallow level can't get it yet.
 
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Like all cranks, Doron and Moshe are certain that their incredible OM is JUST THE THING that world of mathematics has been waiting for.

Naturally, they think MS will be interested, and -- any day now -- they will have Bill Gates knocking at their door, offering them fame, fortune, and beautiful women with questionable morality and a weird taste in men, if only they let him use OM.

Well, it's not going to happen. The reply from MS will be silence, or at most a polite form letter, of course.

That the billions that are theirs for the incredible effort of inventing OM, like the Nobel prize (yes, I know there is no Nobel prize for mathematics -- but cranks usually don't), is not yet theirs, will be chalked up by Doron & Moshe to the conspiracy of envious enemies within the "mathematical establishment".
 
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Skeptic said:
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Like all cranks, Doron and Moshe are certain that their incredible OM is JUST THE THING that world of mathematics has been waiting for.

Naturally, they think MS will be interested, and -- any day now -- they will have Bill Gates knocking at their door, offering them fame, fortune, and beautiful women with questionable morality and a weird taste in men, if only they let him use OM.

Well, it's not going to happen. The reply from MS will be silence, or at most a polite form letter, of course.

That the billions that are theirs for the incredible effort of inventing OM, like the Nobel prize (yes, I know there is no Nobel prize for mathematics -- but cranks usually don't), is not yet theirs, will be chalked up by Doron & Moshe to the conspiracy of envious enemies within the "mathematical establishment".
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Like any technocratic mind Skeptic sees the sparks without getting their source.
 
So, Doron, you've established that we're all 'verbal thinkers' because we don't 'get' the essence of OM by 'Direct Perception' (probably because all we have are your obfuscated verbal/textual 'explanations' of it).

So why are you still here? why aren't you off making pots of money and changing the world for the better by recruiting all the thousands or millions of people who can use their Direct Perception to 'get' OM ?

Could it be you know they won't 'get' OM? Could it be that it's all a bunch of hooey and you can't let go because you wasted so many years of your life on it (classic Sunk Cost Fallacy) ?

If there is a good reason you are still on this thread, perhaps you'd let us know so we can all do something more constructive.
 
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dlorde said:
So, Doron, you've established that we're all 'verbal thinkers' because we don't 'get' the essence of OM by 'Direct Perception' (probably because all we have are your obfuscated verbal/textual 'explanations' of it).

So why are you still here? why aren't you off making pots of money and changing the world for the better by recruiting all the thousands or millions of people who can use their Direct Perception to 'get' OM ?

Could it be you know they won't 'get' OM? Could it be that it's all a bunch of hooey and you can't let go because you wasted so many years of your life on it (classic Sunk Cost Fallacy) ?

If there is a good reason you are still on this thread, perhaps you'd let us know so we can all do something more constructive.
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dlorde, what are your thoughts and how they are organized?
 
doronshadmi said:
Ya, it is about time to take a lesson or two from Jonathan Livingston ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Livingston_Seagull ).
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I love Richard Bach's stories. Especially 'Illusions - the adventures of a reluctant Messiah', of which I bought 20 copies to hand out to friends.

But, other than Mr Shadmi, I and my friends know them as nice fictional motivational stories.

They are full of humor and they do not take themselves too seriously.

Want to go in a 'literature fight' with me Doron? That *is* verbal and I promise you, I will obliterate you in that, just as in Math or Physics.

Now, what I find most funny, after rereading my posts, is that I gave one opening for Doron, large enough to drive the 101st batallion tanks through, which he totally missed.

If his mind was ever so sharp, that single post, and the replies thereupon, are proof that it is now the dullest tool in the shed.

But, let's give you another chance. How about we put Math puzzles up which you state only OM can solve and not Math (or by extension, Physics).

The rule would be; any puzzle that needs more than 3 replies for clarification and/or disambiguation is disqualified.

How about it?
 
doronshadmi said:
dlorde, what are your thoughts and how they are organized?
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Mine are: Doron is not very good at what he does, and they are ordered from left to right. They are indexed by a librarian.

But seriously, want to go Psychology as well? My second Phd is in AI, and because the UvA did not know any better where to begin in my time, I spent 40% of my study-time studying organisation of memory, mind, planning processes etc.

Let's go.
 
doronshadmi said:
dlorde, what are your thoughts and how they are organized?
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My thoughts (on this topic) are what you just responded to... as to how they are organised, if you mean how does my mind work, I don't think anyone can tell you that for certain - I have my own ideas about the processes involved, but it would take more than a couple of paragraphs to explain them.
 
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