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I just stumbled across this page on Anita's site about her perceptions of food. For those wondering why I created www.StopVisionFromFeeling.com, read on.

When it comes to apricots she perceives "a chemical in the stone that destroys some forms of cancer, but that it (like with many anti-cancer chemicals I perceive) is also toxic and might cause cancer." Could she be more irresponsible? It took me all of 10 seconds to Google Apricot Seeds Poisonous to find, "Fruits of the rose family--including cherries, apples, plums, almonds, peaches, apricots, and crabapples--contain in their seeds substances known as cyanogenetic glycosides, which on ingestion release hydrogen cyanide gas through an enzymatic reaction. They can most certainly do you in."

When it comes to carrots she writes, "I perceive that the inner stem of carrots contains chemicals that, when eaten raw (uncooked), protect against the form of lung cancer that results from smoking cigarettes. Because the information I perceive from inside carrots merges automatically with the perception I have of what smoking does, and annihilates it. I would love to recommend smokers to drink home-made, uncooked (unheated) carrot juice." Love to recommend? She just did. I can see it now: The Marlboro man and the Jolly Green Giant sharing a smoke and some carrot juice.

She also writes, "I perceive that cheese that has been heated until it has melted into a liquid and heated that way for long enough time would be cancerous to the colon." I guess I'm killing my kids with grilled cheese sammiches and mac & cheese.

She opines on grapefruit with, "I perceive that yellow grapefruits contain chemicals that destroy pathogens (virus and bacteria) and parasites (such as insects or fungal) all across the intestinal tract, and that most of this strength is in the white stuff between the fruit and the peels. This is another fruit that I experience as highly medicinal." She couldn't also take the time to mention the known effects on real medicine?

Anita also goes on to link American dairy to breast cancer and chocolate to sagging of the face. Oh, and she used her Vibrational Algebra to explain how garlic fights cancer throughout the body.

She is irresponsible and dangerous. She's taking little tidbits available in the news (garlic does seem to have effects on certain types of cancer) to lend her "perceptions" credibility. I don't know or really care if it's deliberate or not. I'm just glad my site is there to examine these claims skeptically.
 
UncaYimmy said:
When it comes to apricots she perceives "a chemical in the stone that destroys some forms of cancer, but that it (like with many anti-cancer chemicals I perceive) is also toxic and might cause cancer."
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A more relevant google, I'd suggest, would be laetrile. It would seem she's heard about it and is imagining, perhaps subconsciously, a distorted version of what she's read.
 
Lest we forget, Pup sent VfF some crushed pills in the mail at the beginning of the year. VfF was supposed to use her powers to identify what the pills were and what effect they would have. She never made the attempt. Now, she can look at a carrot and declare it has curative powers when it comes to cancer. And it's not the whole carrot, it's specific parts that are effective. And it's not all cancer, just a certain type. That's all pretty specific. But she can't tell the difference between an aspirin and an antacid? That seems a bit odd.

Ward
 
UncaYimmy said:
Anita also goes on to link American dairy to breast cancer and chocolate to sagging of the face.
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I eat chocolate by the pound, the POUND I tell you, and I'm 45 and look 35. No face sagging anywhere.

I also drink milk by the gallon. I'll have to have Mrs. JHunter1163 conduct an exam, but it seems unlikely to me that I have breast cancer.
 
UncaYimmy said:
I just stumbled across this page on Anita's site about her perceptions of food. For those wondering why I created www.StopVisionFromFeeling.com, read on.

When it comes to apricots she perceives "a chemical in the stone that destroys some forms of cancer, but that it (like with many anti-cancer chemicals I perceive) is also toxic and might cause cancer." Could she be more irresponsible? It took me all of 10 seconds to Google Apricot Seeds Poisonous to find, "Fruits of the rose family--including cherries, apples, plums, almonds, peaches, apricots, and crabapples--contain in their seeds substances known as cyanogenetic glycosides, which on ingestion release hydrogen cyanide gas through an enzymatic reaction. They can most certainly do you in."

When it comes to carrots she writes, "I perceive that the inner stem of carrots contains chemicals that, when eaten raw (uncooked), protect against the form of lung cancer that results from smoking cigarettes. Because the information I perceive from inside carrots merges automatically with the perception I have of what smoking does, and annihilates it. I would love to recommend smokers to drink home-made, uncooked (unheated) carrot juice." Love to recommend? She just did. I can see it now: The Marlboro man and the Jolly Green Giant sharing a smoke and some carrot juice.

She also writes, "I perceive that cheese that has been heated until it has melted into a liquid and heated that way for long enough time would be cancerous to the colon." I guess I'm killing my kids with grilled cheese sammiches and mac & cheese.

She opines on grapefruit with, "I perceive that yellow grapefruits contain chemicals that destroy pathogens (virus and bacteria) and parasites (such as insects or fungal) all across the intestinal tract, and that most of this strength is in the white stuff between the fruit and the peels. This is another fruit that I experience as highly medicinal." She couldn't also take the time to mention the known effects on real medicine?

Anita also goes on to link American dairy to breast cancer and chocolate to sagging of the face. Oh, and she used her Vibrational Algebra to explain how garlic fights cancer throughout the body.

She is irresponsible and dangerous. She's taking little tidbits available in the news (garlic does seem to have effects on certain types of cancer) to lend her "perceptions" credibility. I don't know or really care if it's deliberate or not. I'm just glad my site is there to examine these claims skeptically.
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Like many people still alive today, thanks to medications that lower blood pressure and treat high cholestorol, I'm on meds which require I don't eat grapefuit or drink grapefruit juice. Fortunately for me, I have the smarts to see through this idiot's "advice," but I fear for those who don't.

Good job, UY.


M.
 
In between all the nonsense is this little pearl of wisdom:

Fish
I perceive that fish <snip> contains a surprisingly large percentage of water.
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Well, color me surprised.
 
VFF's perceptions remind me of an old Dave Attell bit, in which he complains that in our present time one simply has to repeat something already known to achieve stardom. He then names Al Gore's film as an example
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UncaYimmy, I'm still torn about whether your site is the optimal way to counter VFF's oeuvre.

I find your initiative commendable but I still wonder if it is breaking a fly on the wheel. If this were a vote I would be like 55/45, under the corollary that it is better to do something than to passively let things happen.
 
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I've heard that objection before, but I have yet to hear any justification for that position. Specifically, how is creating a website the equivalent of a wheel? How is it any different than the thousands of posts here discussing her claims? Why were my posts here seemingly acceptable, but my website is not? All I did was move the discussion elsewhere and organize essentially the same information.

We regularly see people come to this site asking questions like, "I heard about <whatever> and the only information I can find is a website supporting it. Anybody know anything about this?" What I have done is taken a step to answer that question in advance. If somebody searches for Vision From Feeling, my website comes up. I'm not pushing it on anybody - it's a pull for interested people. It's not like I'm taking out ads in a newspaper. The only people who find my site are those interested in VFF's claims, which includes 23 visitors this month coming to my site from her site (she lists my site as a "fan site" for some reason).

It's pretty clear that the JREF website is no longer sufficient because VFF no longer posts her new claims here (and the moderated status has killed much of the discussion). That hasn't stoppped Anita, though. She keeps making new claims, some of which are silly while others are potentially dangerous. My website keeps up with her claims and addresses them as she posts them. Furthermore, my website organizes her vast number of claims whereas on this site you have to sift through several threads containing literally thousands of posts. I address more information in a better way.

Then we have the matter of timing. Sure, she's a fly now. They all start out as flies. Should I have waited until Anita had a large following before attempting to debunk her claims? What I have done is made it much harder for her to dupe people in the future. If she never tries to do so, then maybe I wasted my time. Big deal. Of course, maybe she never tries because I blocked her path. Good for me. Thing is, the more she tries spread her nonsense, the more useful my site becomes. I think it's better to lock the barn door before the horses get out.

In a nutshell she created a website where she makes all sorts of claims. I created a website that debunks those claims. How that's a fly on a wheel is beyond me.
 
UncaYimmy said:
I've heard that objection before, but I have yet to hear any justification for that position. Specifically, how is creating a website the equivalent of a wheel? How is it any different than the thousands of posts here discussing her claims? Why were my posts here seemingly acceptable, but my website is not? All I did was move the discussion elsewhere and organize essentially the same information.

We regularly see people come to this site asking questions like, "I heard about <whatever> and the only information I can find is a website supporting it. Anybody know anything about this?" What I have done is taken a step to answer that question in advance. If somebody searches for Vision From Feeling, my website comes up. I'm not pushing it on anybody - it's a pull for interested people. It's not like I'm taking out ads in a newspaper. The only people who find my site are those interested in VFF's claims, which includes 23 visitors this month coming to my site from her site (she lists my site as a "fan site" for some reason).

It's pretty clear that the JREF website is no longer sufficient because VFF no longer posts her new claims here (and the moderated status has killed much of the discussion). That hasn't stoppped Anita, though. She keeps making new claims, some of which are silly while others are potentially dangerous. My website keeps up with her claims and addresses them as she posts them. Furthermore, my website organizes her vast number of claims whereas on this site you have to sift through several threads containing literally thousands of posts. I address more information in a better way.

Then we have the matter of timing. Sure, she's a fly now. They all start out as flies. Should I have waited until Anita had a large following before attempting to debunk her claims? What I have done is made it much harder for her to dupe people in the future. If she never tries to do so, then maybe I wasted my time. Big deal. Of course, maybe she never tries because I blocked her path. Good for me. Thing is, the more she tries spread her nonsense, the more useful my site becomes. I think it's better to lock the barn door before the horses get out.

In a nutshell she created a website where she makes all sorts of claims. I created a website that debunks those claims. How that's a fly on a wheel is beyond me.
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I mostly agree with your reasoning for your point of view.

However, a lot of people make a lot of claims - on the net, in books, newspapers, any medium - every day which are not rebutted by a specific website.

What filter do people use to deal with said claims? Common sense.



In short: When someone without credentials says things like "I perceive that yellow grapefruits contain chemicals that destroy pathogens (virus and bacteria) and parasites (such as insects or fungal) all across the intestinal tract, and that most of this strength is in the white stuff between the fruit and the peels. This is another fruit that I experience as highly medicinal." that's it for me, then and there.

Will that strategy work in all cases. Probably not.

Will it work in most cases: I have experienced it like that.

Just update your common sense once in a while and you should do fine. Simply remember to update it with Stuff That Has Been Repeatedly Proven To Actually Work, or STHBRPTAWAMBLA.
 
Here's another justifciation for www.StopVisionFromFeeling.com:

In this thread, Anita claims that she can now heal the sick. She said, "we know somebody who was about to kill himself because his migraines were unbearable and there was no help. So I had to try, I just had to." After all, "If someone is suffering to the point of suicide, and I think I have helped persons in the past with pain, then I must try."

She then goes on to describe a whole bunch of unverified nonsense about using Vibrational Algebra to clear the dark spots she saw on his brain. She said she applied a "different "voltage"/vibrational pattern" to his nerves and veins. The next month he only had two headaches, and they were less severe. This lead her to conclude, "And it worked."

I don't know about you, but if somebody was about to kill himself, I would take him to get professional help. Suicide is not a trivial matter. What Anita did was incredibly irresponsible. What if her unproven "healing" didn't work or made him worse? Was she willing to risk the poor man becoming even more despondent? Sure, she gave the standard self-contradictory disclaimer about not relying on unproven alternative medicine, but those are just words. She tried to cover her own ass, but she didn't make any mention of recommending that he get professional help for his suicidal thoughts.

Could she be using the term "kill himself" as a figure of speech? No. She specifically used a second reference to suicide. She also said, "his condition had been serious enough for me to put my selfish needs aside." So, either she is lying about the suicide thing or he really was suicidal. We have no idea if the event really happened at all, much less as she described.

She did tell us she gave him a second "treatment" and "will need to see him a third time to complete what I was working on, it is still not finished." I guess this poor guy's "common sense filter" is clogged.
 
I have to point out that, if this really happened, according to Anita, in order to make herself appear more knowledgeable, she gave the gentlemen a medical description of migraine that does not match any true medical description of migraine. This wars with her alleged oral disclaimer. "Don't take my word for it, but here's what is really going on with you <insert medical terminology here>". She also mentioned that the gentleman had visited a neurologist, who had failed to help him, so it was Anita to the rescue, instead of encouraging hm to visit a specialist again.

The suicide issue aside, although Anita claims that she didn't 'perceive' a serious brain problem, one has to ask, what if there is? The man's migraines had supposedly increased since his visit to the neurologist, which certainly indicates that any medical cause might be increasing as well.

I don't think many of us would want our father/brother/husband/son goofing around with this wackjob over a potential neurological problem.

Totally irresponsible, and downright stupid.
 
Curing Migraines

Jim Carr, I appreciate and honor your effort in suppressing what should here seem like a possible psychic fraud beginning to express a non-existing talent and probably intending to financially exploit, and to expose patients to possible harm, as in recommending them against conventional medicine or in giving them false hopes. I fully acknowledge those dangers, however you must not let your worst expectations cloud your judgement since none of this applied to what took place when I attempted to treat a man who suffered from migraines.

My suspicion that I might be able to heal is not something that originates from my own interpretation of events. All past cases where I have attempted to heal people were with loved ones who were helplessly in great pain. And in all cases I had not told them that I was attempting to heal them, nor was it by any means obvious that I was. And after long periods of suffering without any sign of improvement there was great relief immediate to my treatment.

My boyfriend was waking up every night for years with excrutiating pain in his shoulder. I would wake up with him and was of course very concerned. One night I decided I had to fix it so I used my "vision from feeling" to look inside the shoulder. I found a black vibrational substance lodged among the ligaments and muscles and removed it without telling him what I was about to do nor making it obvious what I was doing. I never told him I was attempting to heal him, so there was no introduction of placebo that could have changed his actual condition or changed the way he experiences or describes the condition. From that night on he no longer wakes up with shoulder pain.

Am I a good luck charm that coincidentally sets people into a state of sudden and immediate, lasting dramatic recovery? Or does what I do have effect? All that matters is that people recover.

When I heard about a man who is suffering from migraines that are constant, unbearable and debilitating to the point of him feeling like ending his life I was of course very concerned. Remembering past events that had had apparent results, I knew I had to at least try, and you can not blaim me for wanting to help someone.

I met with him in early June and told him about my "vision from feeling" and how I see images of tissue and feel things about people and about a few past experiences where I've seemed to have helped. I was very thorough in my questions to ensure that he has sought all the conventional help that is available. He said he has been tested by all sorts of doctors and taken all available medication. He has even tried alternative medicine such as acupuncture, and alternative herbal medicines. Some had given temporary relief but the migraines would always become resistant and return.

Since age 6 his migraines had continually gotten worse to a point where now at 56 they were constant. A migraine would last one and a half to two days after which there was a difficult recovery period of a few days. He was unable to have a normal job and works from home and his family life was greatly affected. He had at least 3 or 4 migraines a week, and with the difficulties during the recovery periods in between, he was in a state of constant suffering.

He said he had been given an option of operating electrodes into him but it would cost tens of thousands of dollars and he could not afford it.

I carefully explained that I do not have any evidence that I could be able to heal, but that past experiences compelled me to want to try. Neither of us were expecting any results but we both agreed that it is worth a try.

By seeing me, he was by no means being withheld from his other forms of treatment. Seeing me, he was not choosing not to take a medication, or choosing not to make an appointment with a medical specialist. I only took half an hour to an hour of his time, and I was not cause of any distress to him.

When I met him he was having an on-set for another migraine.

I looked into his body and found areas of black vibrational substance, which looks like a solid colored material across the tissue. Most more serious health problems that I see with my "vision" have black associated to them. The black was sitting above the optical nerves and seemingly affecting nerves and blood vessels, causing a feeling of cramp and compression and leading to migraines.

I treated him by working in the image that I was seeing of the inside of his brain near the optical nerves. Directly in that image, I cut the black into smaller sections and removed them by force applied by my mind. That way I removed the entire black section and it resulted in that I felt the tissues more relaxed this time and I no longer felt or saw the sensation of cramp in the blood vessels and nerves as before. The changes I made in my mind to the image, became lasting changes such that when I looked again, the image from his tissues was updated and changed.

As soon as I had finished removing the black, he said that the compression he was feeling across the forehead, that always gets worse and ends as a migraine, was completely gone all of a sudden.

I then gave some manual treatment by pressing against the top of his head and neck with my fingers, in ways that I felt was adding "balance" to the feeling of pain across his head. By adding and removing into the way the tissues feel I am balancing it from a feeling of pain into a feeling of health.

I told him that I was unable to finish what I was working on in one time and would like to see him again to complete what I was working on.

He had another migraine that same night. During the month that followed, had he followed the same trend, he would have had at least 12 migraines, or at least 3 or 4 migraines a week. For many years he had been having more frequent and more intense migraines on a continual upward slope. I heard from him a month later and he had only had two migraines within a month since the one that same night.

Not only was there a significant reduction in the frequency of migraines (from a minimum of 12 to 2), but he also reported that these two lasted for shorter amounts of time, that they were less intense, and that there was no nausea associated with them anymore. He explained how his whole life had changed, all the activities he was now able to do, how his wife did not have to suffer with him anymore and how he had much of his family life back.

I was so pleased that he was doing better, however I was - and remain - skeptical that I was the cause of the improvement. I asked him thoroughly whether there had been any other changes to his life since meeting with me. He had not made any changes to his other forms of treatment or medication and the only change in lifestyle was that he had started rowing. I said that rowing and exercise might improve migraines, he said he didn't think so because he has exercised in the past and without any improvement.

The reason I have chosen to share this story has got nothing to do with me. If - for any reason - I were able to help migraine sufferers, either by being a good luck charm that sets people into a coincidental immediate recovery or by actually having some effect, then I will definitely help people and nothing in the world can stop me. I don't care if I am attacked for having wanted to help someone. I also think that Jim Carr's comments and arguments are strongly disrespectful to the man and his experience.

I definitely did not keep him from attempting any other forms of help. I was by no means irresponsible, I was attempting to help someone, and whether it was because of the treatment or because I am a good luck charm that puts people into a coincidental healthy period, doesn't matter.

What matters is that the man has greatly improved.

It would have been irresponsible of me to not want to try.
 
UncaYimmy said:
She did tell us she gave him a second "treatment" and "will need to see him a third time to complete what I was working on, it is still not finished." I guess this poor guy's "common sense filter" is clogged.
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I'd assume his judgment is a little off, if he's really suicidal. Either that, or he's not suicidal at all; he's a typical college student and willing to humor Anita and endure her "treatments" because he thinks she's really hot.
 
I did not withhold the man from any conventional medicine, diagnostics or medicine. In fact I suggested to him that his symptoms could suggest a brain tumor, and he said that he has taken all the tests. Meeting with me was by no means harmful to him.

Don't forget the improvement. He was at a constant worsening of his symptoms, and after seeing me there was dramatic improvement. Good luck charm, or actual effect? Doesn't matter. What matters is that he has his life back.
 
Interview with the Migraine patient

One month after first treating him, but before commencing with the second treatment, I had this interview with the man I had attempted to treat for migraines. I had a more thorough interview with him before the first treatment but did not write that down. From my notes on our conversation, based on my questions to him and what he chose to add:

He is male, 56 years old, and suffers from migraines.
The migraines began when he was 6 years old.
Since the past 10-15 years the migraines have increased in frequency (to occur more often) until he was a chronic migraine sufferer with a constant condition.

He has seen several neurologists. Tried all the medicines, even profylactic, and in all doses. They will work only for a while and then taper off. He has tried all the medicines.

One month after the first treatment with me he was still taking the same medicines as he did before seeing me. Butterbur herbal medicine at first seemed to work in reducing the frequency and severity of migraines but had started not to work too.

He was given the option of implanting electrodes on a nerve as a possible form of treatment, but it would cost $50,000 to $75,000 to do so.

Everyday life was a headache, he couldn't work or think clearly, got depressed and was on antidepressants.

So I ask him to tell me more about the time before he met me:

He was getting at least 3 or 4 migraines a week. The medicine Zomig would take the major pain away but still leave a headache, but it too was becoming less effective. Drugs were becoming less effective.

Since meeting me he has only had 3 migraines which includes the one on the same night he had seen me. They have been less severe. He says, "Something changed, and fairly dramatically from a 3 a week to 3 in a month, that's pretty good, that's pretty dramatic."

I ask him to describe what the migraines used to be like:

It starts with a pressure like a band around the forehead that constantly tightens until the pain centers behind the left eye. He then becomes very sensitive to light and sounds. Taste, smell, all of his senses would intensify.

He would feel pain pulse almost like a heartbeat. Half the time the pain would be so intense he would throw up.

I ask him how long the migraines would last:

If the medicine works, they would last half an hour to an hour. If the medicine didn't work, they'd last one and a half to two days and afterward he'd have a "migraine hangover" and couldn't think clearly the day after that.

He says, "The migraines had an effect on my life that was debilitating."

And, "My life was headaches. Anything else would be fitted around the headaches." He couldn't work for anyone and was considered disabled if he had to work for someone else so he works from home.

From the way he was speaking, it sounded like he was using past tense to describe what the migraines were like, and he agreed that he was. Like there was a before and after.

"Suddenly I got my life back, I am able to do things I couldn't do before, and can go places." His wife's life was also affected because they can do more things together now and she no longer has the concern or burden of worry.

The first of the three recent migraines that he had since seeing me was on the same night and he says it was oncoming from before he met me.

I ask when the other two were. They were a week apart and not back to back.

These past two migraines were not as severe, the pain was milder. No nausea. Last for shorter amounts of time. The first of the three lasted a day, the other two were short lived, about half a day.

I ask him if there were any other changes to his lifestyle since seeing me. He does more exercise now, rowing. No changes in medication. He started rowing about a week after the first treatment. He has exercised rigorously in the past but still had frequent migraines.

I ask him what he thinks might have caused this dramatic improvement, and I tell him that I am skeptical that I had anything to do with it. He thinks that what I did was the cause of the change.

Next time I meet him I will audio record an interview with him and make that available from my website www.visionfromfeeling.com. He allows me to share his story and I am promoting this because I'd love to meet with other migraine patients to see whether I could be of any help to them. It has got nothing to do with me. These people are suffering and if there is any chance that I could be of any help then it's worth a try.
 
This has become quite frightening, at least from my perspective. This recent claim she put forth could actually hurt someone. I hope that Anita would, take a step back, and really examine the potential damage she could do with her supposed healing technique.
 
On UncaYimmy's website (www.stopvisionfromfeeling.com), he says that VfF has stopped communication with the F.A.C.T. skeptics meet-up group in North Carolina.

I have not seen that info anywhere else. I assume that this information came from a private conversation between VfF and UncaYimmy. She attended the most recent F.A.C.T. meeting (http://www.meetup.com/f-a-c-t/calendar/10466099/) and I have not heard anything disparaging from her about them. She seems, or seemed, to have admired Dr. Carlson who helps head up the group.

I hope UY is mistaken and she stays in touch with F.A.C.T.. This group (or individual members of it) can be of great assistance in her future studies. If she hopes to claim the IIG's (www.iigwest.org) $50K prize, I think she'll probably have to go through F.A.C.T. first. They were the only people who seemed to be able to convince VfF that she was not making a testable claim. They made progress where no one on this board or at IIG seemed to be able to.

I think the report of her coming in third out of four was made before last month's meeting (I could be wrong), and she still went to the meeting.

So if anyone has further information about the reported "break-up" between VfF and F.A.C.T., please let us know.

Thanks,
Ward
 
VisionFromFeeling said:
Good luck charm, or actual effect?
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Neither. The fact that those are the only possibilities you consider, neither of which are actually possible (that is, you have no abilities and there is no such thing as a good luck charm), is rather telling. Again you prove that not only do you have no idea about the scientific method and no knowledge in the relevant field, you clearly have no interest in actually educating yourself.

There are numerous other far more likely possibilities. Firstly, there's the placebo effect. Contrary to what you probably think, that does not mean you did anything, it simply means that a person might feel better (but not actually have any physical improvement) when they think something has been done. It could be regression towards the mean, which is when normal variation in the severity of an ailment can appear to be improvement attributed to a specific treatment that happened to done when the ailment was at its worst. A related problem is confirmation bias - maybe you tried treating him several times and only on the one time there appeared to be an
effect did you report it.

Of course, by far the most likely explanation is that you are just lying. You certainly don't have the best track record for honesty. You claim to be investigating your nonsense scientifically yet constantly make up new, ever more impressive, superpowers for yourself. We went from seeing some pretty colours to medical diagnosis to meeting with ghosts to being an alien to magically curing illnesses. Of course, this is not amazingly unusual, there are frauds and liars all of the place claiming similar things. What does seem odd, however, is that you persist in this nonsense despite the fact that not a single person appears to actually believe you. Even the most obvious frauds usually manage to get some kind of following after this length of time, how exactly do you manage to be so unconvincing?

Doesn't matter. What matters is that he has his life back.
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Actually, it matters quite a lot. This is why we use the scientific method to study medicine instead of the VisionFromFeeling method, otherwise known as making things up. If something you do has an effect, you need to work out how and why it works, what the limits are, what the side effects might be, and so on. If you actually can't do anything, then you need to know that, otherwise you end up believing you actually have magical abilities to cure people and will either end up causing serious harm to someone or simply end up in jail for fraud.
 
wardenclyffe said:
On UncaYimmy's website (www.stopvisionfromfeeling.com), he says that VfF has stopped communication with the F.A.C.T. skeptics meet-up group in North Carolina.

Thanks,
Ward
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Sorry, but no, UncaYimmy did not say that Anita has ceased communicating with FACT. He said that she hasn't not mentioned them since Dr. Carlson stated his conclusions:

"They also evaluated her data from the study and concluded she came in third place out of four people when guessing what ailments people had in her study. She still refuses to publish this data as promised, but we all know the conclusions: she failed. Once again, she didn't like that, so she's not talking about F-A-C-T anymore."
 
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