The Heiwa Challenge

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Bluesky said:
Hey come on we won the heiwa Challenge. Its so obvious, it fails and you just have to look at the method in post 1641 or the one by GlennB in post 1682. How couldn't that fail?

So know you want us to do some test documentation. are you saying that we have to build t to a specification and that we need to test and inspect the joints. There is no mention of this in your first post and it seems to me that you are just adding new rules.

Our scheme complies with every point of Heiwa's stupid first post!
Heiwa concedes defeat?
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Heiwa owes you a million dollars. You have followed all of his specs and now he needs to pony up.

Heiwa I hope you have a million dollars.
 
Newtons Bit said:
He won't ever concede...anything.
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Hm, The Heiwa Challenge is open for everybody. Physics is a practical and experiemental science of the world around us. If anybody suggests that structures one-way crush down and self-destruct due to gravity, they should show this with real structures!! In The Heiwa Challenge only ONE structure suffices. No theoretical models are permitted.

Theoretical models suggesting that structures can one-way crush down when a part drops on the whole are very suspect. Bazant, BLGB and Seffen have a lot to explain, like NIST, FEMA, Purdue university, Mackey, etc. They can do it by participating in The Heiwa Challenge and produce ONE real structure that behaves as they postulate. Until then their theories are of no value. KISS.
 
Heiwa said:
Hm, The Heiwa Challenge is open for everybody. Physics is a practical and experiemental science of the world around us. If anybody suggests that structures one-way crush down and self-destruct due to gravity, they should show this with real structures!! In The Heiwa Challenge only ONE structure suffices. No theoretical models are permitted.

Theoretical models suggesting that structures can one-way crush down when a part drops on the whole are very suspect. Bazant, BLGB and Seffen have a lot to explain, like NIST, FEMA, Purdue university, Mackey, etc. They can do it by participating in The Heiwa Challenge and produce ONE real structure that behaves as they postulate. Until then their theories are of no value. KISS.
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Not that it needs to be said further, but your assertion applies a universal standard to building performance which is impossible to apply when built structures aren't all the same to begin with. I generally take issue (as most serious designers would) when a model is demanded using this assertion as a basis for your challenge. Not only does you're universal standard and confirmation bias exclude the twin towers as examples, you assume that regardless of any differences associated with construction the result is utterly impossible, and you then proceed to apply this to objects which have absolutely nothing to do with man made structures. And it has been repeatedly pointed out that you refuse to to change this position and thus will never be satisfied by your own challenge. It was dead on arrival, and it's taken me too long to get bored of your brick wall of an uniformed opinion. Later....
 
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Grizzly Bear said:
Not that it needs to be said further, but your assertion applies a universal standard to building performance which is impossible to apply when built structures aren't all the same to begin with. I generally take issue (as most serious designers would) when a model is demanded using this assertion as a basis for your challenge. Not only does you're universal standard and confirmation bias exclude the twin towers as examples, you assume that regardless of any differences associated with construction the result is utterly impossible, and you then proceed to apply this to objects which have absolutely nothing to do with man made structures. And it has been repeatedly pointed out that you refuse to to change this position and thus will never be satisfied by your own challenge. It was dead on arrival, and it's taken me too long to get bored of your brick wall of an uniformed opinion. Later....
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Any structure, man-made or natural, may be proposed in The Heiwa Challenge. If you think the WTC 1/2 structures one-way crush down and selfdestruct* when a small part is dropped on the remainder by gravity, you are kindly requested to demonstrate it (again).

*Selfdestruct = 70% of the elements and/or connections are broken as result of upper part C colliding with lower part A.

You are right that it is impossible. Reason being that part C of any structure, man-made or whatever, cannot apply enough (potential/kinetic) energy on part A without destroying itself first. And a destroyed part C cannot damage an intact part A or what remains of it.

Look at the rubble of WTC 1/2! Result of gravity alone? Not possible, of course! Broken elements thrown sideways into adjacent objects! Gravity force cannot break an element in two locations and then throw the intermediate part of the element sideways. Try yourself in 3-D! Or do the calculation on a piece of paper. Your theory must be at least 2-D to allow for sideways displacement.
 
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Heiwa said:
Any structure, man-made or natural, may be proposed in The Heiwa Challenge. Try yourself in 3-D! Or do the calculation on a
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piece of paper. Your theory must be at least 2-D to allow for sideways displacement.
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Is it true that the winner gets 1 million dollars? I know of only two structures so far that win the Heiwa Challenge: Skyblue post 1641 and GlennB post 1682. Do we have to share or do we get a million each? There are lots more simple structures that would fail when you apply a significant overstress to things like connections.

How do we collect... or are you just a bit of a fraud Anders?
 
Bluesky said:
Is it true that the winner gets 1 million dollars? I know of only two structures so far that win the Heiwa Challenge: Skyblue post 1641 and GlennB post 1682. Do we have to share or do we get a million each? There are lots more simple structures that would fail when you apply a significant overstress to things like connections.

How do we collect... or are you just a bit of a fraud Anders?
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Me, a fraud? No, but my frau was German. The Heiwa Challenge rules are in post #1. A winner must produce a real structure, etc, etc. Frantic, fraught, freakish frazzle theoretical fraud is not permitted. Have a freak! It is free!
 
bill smith said:
This is a Japanese video I've never seen before. The collapse of WTC1 beginning at 4:21 might be interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeAwSAEXHkI&feature=related
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You are posting the same tripe in multiple threads. You like the part where people are dancing in the street celebrating United Stated being attacked and people being murdered. Good video to go with your weak moronic apologies for terrorists.

The collapsing WTC towers prove Heiwa is wrong; twice.
 
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Bluesky said:
Is it true that the winner gets 1 million dollars? I know of only two structures so far that win the Heiwa Challenge: Skyblue post 1641 and GlennB post 1682. Do we have to share or do we get a million each? There are lots more simple structures that would fail when you apply a significant overstress to things like connections.

How do we collect... or are you just a bit of a fraud Anders?
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It's clear that my bookcase idea was just a theoretical twist on your pizza box working model. The $1,000,000 is yours really. However .... I live just along the Mediterranean from Bjorkman and know some seriously heavy Greek bandits. They work cheap. Open to negotiation. The catch would be that Bjorkman might be just a bitter retired under-achiever living in a little apartment in Beausoleil, which he pretends is the headquarters of some fancy EU 'agency' or other, while posting bilge on the interwebs. Dunno ... If you'll front-up say $100,000 for working expenses I'll guarantee you the balance of $900,000 on receipt. Might even start a thread here .... The GlennB Guarantee :) It would be here in black and white! You could quote my very words!!
 
GlennB said:
It's clear that my bookcase idea was just a theoretical twist on your pizza box working model. The $1,000,000 is yours really. However .... I live just along the Mediterranean from Bjorkman and know some seriously heavy Greek bandits. They work cheap. Open to negotiation. The catch would be that Bjorkman might be just a bitter retired under-achiever living in a little apartment in Beausoleil, which he pretends is the headquarters of some fancy EU 'agency' or other, while posting bilge on the interwebs. Dunno ... If you'll front-up say $100,000 for working expenses I'll guarantee you the balance of $900,000 on receipt. Might even start a thread here .... The GlennB Guarantee :) It would be here in black and white! You could quote my very words!!
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The GlennB Guarentee looks as bona fide as the Heiwa Challenge But fortunately I have just recieved a very generous offer from a Nigerian Banker. if you would mind sending me your bank account details then I can organize it directly

Any its nice to know that we solved the heiwa challenge. We did it..Its easy.!

its good to see how Heiwa is completely speechless and just pretends that we didnt solve it. He seems to have as much integrity as my Nigerian Banker.!!
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Bluesky said:
Heiwa is one of the ae911truth experts. I guess he has had his whacky theory checked out by the other experts such as the road engineer, the graduate from 2007, or the guy who didn't quite get his masters.

Anyone wanting to fall for this stupid Heiwa Challenge...should restart the conversation a few thousand postings ago.

Lots of people have done it...its easy.!
Heiwa concedes defeat?
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Sorry Bluesky. Nobody has managed to design a structure where part C can one-way crush part A. But you can still try!
 
GlennB said:
Nice dance, but give me one good reason why I might be lying about my timezone. Hmmmm......
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bill smith said:
I can't really. I just had a strong feeling you were English and the 2-hour timezone difference made me wonder.
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Similar to Bill's response to the question "Can you give me one good reason why 911 was an inside job?"....

"I can't really. I just had a strong feeling it was and the videos on youtube made me wonder."

Ah truthers...

They are the finest investigooglers in the world....
 
Heiwa said:
Sorry Bluesky. Nobody has managed to design a structure where part C can one-way crush part A. But you can still try!
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How is that relevant to anything in the real world anyway?

You’re not implying that the “official story” insists on a one-way crush, are you?
 
TheDaver said:
How is that relevant to anything in the real world anyway?

You’re not implying that the “official story” insists on a one-way crush, are you?
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The one-way crush down is a Bazant invention. Ever heard of Bazant?

The official story is that PE>SE = global collapse ensues (as explained in my papers). However I have shown many times that SE>PE = arrest and nobody seems to be able to debunk that.

But have a try. Design a structure that can be one-way crushed. See post #1.
 
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