29 Structural & Civil Engineers Cite Evidence for Controlled Explosive Demolition

[FineWine]

What is her name? I'll call her.

I didn't get her name. I spoke briefly with one woman, who told me I wanted to talk with the executive producer.

 

[Foolmewunz]

The woman didn't talk with me for twenty minutes because she regarded me as a fool. She was extremely defensive, claiming that the segment aired over the objections of most of the staff. She became unpleasant when I pressed her on the lack of balance. Why shouldn't people call this show to protest a terrible decision?

Just to be clear - I wasn't commenting on your call. More power to you! I contact agencies and companies all the time if I think they're doing a disservice or something dishonest.

I was commenting on Galileo's idea (you could almost see the little comic light bulb go on) that he was coyly enticing people to discredit the "debunker movement" by making nuisances of ourselves like the wizards of wisdom over at WAC do.

 

[sylvan8798]

Several years ago, I called in to a radio program where the hosts had asked what types of things were bothering the listeners those days. I said that as a structural engineer it bothered me that people were misusing science and engineering to try to convince people that 9/11 was somehow an "inside job". We talked for a few minutes (mostly they talked over me, but it was ok).

The very next caller starts out with "well I wouldn't hire that last caller to design an outhouse, because she doesn't know that jet fuel fires don't burn hot enough to melt steel." It wasn't clear why he would expect to have a jet fuel fire in a steel framed outhouse, or why he seemed to think structural engineers would learn about jet fuel fires in school, but what can I say.

 

[BigAl]

Agreed. I have heard a lot of woo on Air America, come to think of it.
It's called "Ratings".

Yup, and it saddens me. The good news is Sam Seder is consistently fact-based and hard on the Twoofers.

Is Lionel still on AA? I've listened to on-and-off for 20 years and love his shtick and he's hard-core anti-woo for everything that Randi would agree with except he gives the Twoofers airtime. I've written to him a few times and tried to clue him in.

(AA left NYC air a long time ago and I've lost track of where these people are on the Internets. )

 

[hokie]

I think Galileo needs to listen to the advice he gave to Cavalieri. You do remember don't don't you?

 

[fitzgibbon]

Way to rationalize things. Good job!

Eyeballs watching commercials are the only coin of the realm in television. Programs are only there to get you to stick around to the commercial break and if it takes having a dissembling quasi-architect on before the dancing dogs, so be it. Watch "Network" sometime; it's a scathing but pretty accurate condemnation of broadcast television today and it's near 30 years old.

And as I said earlier, he's in the death-slot of a morning show. This is where you put the filler to carry you through to "Regis and Kelly".

 

[BenBurch]

Let's not get into a liberal vs. conservative debate here. The mainstream media are notorious for indulging crackpots. How many times have you heard some nut introduced as a "psychic"? There are no real psychics; there are only self-styled psychics.
Are you suggesting that Murdoch wants to promote 9/11 conspiracy nonsense? To what end?

No political commentary intended.

They just don't care.

From plane wrecks to house fires, they are the worst news reporting agency I have encountered.

I can respect a conservative news outlet that gets at least its FACTS nailed down.

 

[BenBurch]

Galileo is on his own little wavelength.

About 1410 nm.

 

[BenBurch]

Agreed. I have heard a lot of woo on Air America, come to think of it.
It's called "Ratings".

They are the SECOND worst news outlet. Believe me, I've tried to make that better when I had some influence there.

Meanwhile I keep the one outlet I *do* have control over as woo-free as possible. In fact we had some shows recently blasting truthers and other CTs.

 

[dudalb]

Yup, and it saddens me. The good news is Sam Seder is consistently fact-based and hard on the Twoofers.

Is Lionel still on AA? I've listened to on-and-off for 20 years and love his shtick and he's hard-core anti-woo for everything that Randi would agree with except he gives the Twoofers airtime. I've written to him a few times and tried to clue him in.

(AA left NYC air a long time ago and I've lost track of where these people are on the Internets. )

Randi Rhodes was the worst for promoting The Twoof. She did not have them as guests, but several times she went into Classic Twoofer rants. When challenged on this, Wildcat (whom I miss badly) posted a line to an audio of Rhodes. It was like a lady Alex Jones,sadly.

 

[T.A.M.]

I am sure you can see TV and Radio Stations all over the world do the same damn thing.
I agree it is sad, but don't think it is a particularly American phenomenon.

probably not, but up north here, we are saturated with american networks, TV and radio, so it is what I see. I see it much less with Canadian Networks, especially TV, where honestly, they report very little sensationalism, and stick mostly to the news (and it is very dry coverage for that reason...lol).

TAM

 

[BigAl]

Randi Rhodes was the worst for promoting The Twoof. She did not have them as guests, but several times she went into Classic Twoofer rants. When challenged on this, Wildcat (whom I miss badly) posted a line to an audio of Rhodes. It was like a lady Alex Jones,sadly.

Agreed, and I like Randi and find her fact-based for many things. For most things, she posted links to authoritative material. I used to turn off the radio when she went into that rant.

I believe we all have blind spots and I wonder what mine are.

 

[Galileo]

The woman didn't talk with me for twenty minutes because she regarded me as a fool.

What do you expect when some conspiracy kook won't leave you alone.

 

[Galileo]

I think Galileo needs to listen to the advice he gave to Cavalieri. You do remember don't don't you?

Oh course I remember him!

 

[beachnut]

I think you mean 29 to 130,000

Galileo posts the biggest failed ideas on 911.

 

[Dog Town]

Wildcat (whom I miss badly)

Did I miss something?

 

[Yaters]

Galileo, thanks for the laughs man. I mean I can only assume this is all an act for laughs and that you don't really carry yourself this way.

Being someone on the outside who looks at both sides, you make the Truth Movement look like a group of scary, maniacal, potentially dangerous people. Nice!

 

[Galileo]

Galileo, thanks for the laughs man. I mean I can only assume this is all an act for laughs and that you don't really carry yourself this way.

Being someone on the outside who looks at both sides, you make the Truth Movement look like a group of scary, maniacal, potentially dangerous people. Nice!

So you admit you are on the outside of the truth. Nice.

 

[beachnut]

Galileo, thanks for the laughs man. I mean I can only assume this is all an act for laughs and that you don't really carry yourself this way.

Being someone on the outside who looks at both sides, you make the Truth Movement look like a group of scary, maniacal, potentially dangerous people. Nice!

Sadly he thinks he is the Galileo. A few posts destroy what was one of the fathers of modern science now reduced to the father of idiotic posts on 911.

He will also twist your posts to make up lies.

 

[Galileo]

Sadly he thinks he is the Galileo. A few posts destroy what was one of the fathers of modern science now reduced to the father of idiotic posts on 911.

Sadly, you think that I think that I'm Galileo.

I think someone has been pulling your leg.