HTML Help - Frameset tags question!

[JoeyDonuts]

Calling any and all HTML gurus.

I'm having a spot of a problem. I'm redesigning my band's website, using pure HTML edited through Notepad.

I'm not having any problems getting the frames and tables to do what I want, with one tiny exception.

All of the pages on the site have black backgrounds. However, there is a white line running between the two frames on my pages. I can't figure out how to get rid of it and make it seamless. I've set the FRAMEBORDER attrib to "0", MARGINHEIGHT attrib to "0", BORDER attrib to "0", with no luck at all.

I've also double checked the color info in each one of the three pages for each "area" of the site - the master with the frameset tags, the static navbar at the top, and the bottom frame, which is for content. No problem there, they all have the hex code for black.

I thought maybe my frame size was a little off, so I played with the size of the top frame my static navbar resides in, and that wasn't the problem either.

I just want the two frames to seamlessly go flush against each other with no little white line inbetween. Anybody have any ideas?

I'm at my wit's end here, any help is very appreciated.

 

[icerat]

What browser are you using? You might need FRAMESPACING set to 0 also. Also, depending on what it is you're doing, the padding and margins of the content pages also might need adjusting.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Hey - that did it. I already had FRAMESPACING set to 0 on the actual "FRAME" fields. I just added the attrib to the FRAMESET tag and presto.

Thanks a million!

 

[Wowbagger]

Do people still use frames?

 

[Cavemonster]

I think you'll do yourself a huge favor if you learn to use divs in place of both frames and tables. You can use an include to keep data in separate files, just like frames.

Here's a tutorial on using divs to simulate framesets.
http://www.alexandersperl.de/tutorials/css/divs_as_frames.php

 

[six7s]

Do people still use frames?

Sad, isn't it?

 

[JoeyDonuts]

I think you'll do yourself a huge favor if you learn to use divs in place of both frames and tables. You can use an include to keep data in separate files, just like frames.

Thanks! I'll definitely check that out. I haven't done any web design for about seven years now, honestly. I'm good at making graphics but have obviously outdated programming knowledge.

Sad, isn't it?

Not everybody is a web developer. If that were the case, snarky chumps like you wouldn't have any reason for employment.

 

[six7s]

Not everybody is a web developer.

True... but anyone can have a go, right?

If that were the case, snarky chumps like you wouldn't have any reason for employment.

Hopefully my "snarky" comment (and Cavemonster's suggestion) prompts you to do some research and think about a better approach

ETA:

For a wide variety of CSS-valid layouts, see:
Stu Nicholl's superb CSS Play - http://www.cssplay.co.uk/layouts/
And http://www.positioniseverything.net/ (which includes ClevaTreva's New Improved Piefecta Page Maker)

 

[JoeyDonuts]

True... but anyone can have a go, right?

Hopefully my "snarky" comment (and Cavemonster's suggestion) prompts you to do some research and think about a better approach

ETA:

For a wide variety of CSS-valid layouts, see:
Stu Nicholl's superb CSS Play - http://www.cssplay.co.uk/layouts/
And http://www.positioniseverything.net/ (which includes ClevaTreva's New Improved Piefecta Page Maker)

I finished the layout the old-fashioned way. I will probably convert all of the code to a less antiquated format when I have time...I just needed to get the information out the door ASAP. I'm sure web developers know a thing or two about that.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

I'm not having any problems getting the frames and tables to do what I want, with one tiny exception.

Get rid of frames. No one uses them anymore. No one should have ever used them to start with.

 

[Rasmus]

http://www.yaml.de/en/home.html

 

[ravdin]

Not everybody is a web developer. If that were the case, snarky chumps like you wouldn't have any reason for employment.

I have said that many times- if everyone knew how to do web development I'd be flipping burgers somewhere.

 

[Rasmus]

I have said that many times- if everyone knew how to do web development I'd be flipping burgers somewhere.

Hardly, coz everybody knows how to do that, too!

 

[Wowbagger]

Sad, isn't it?

It makes me cry.

Although, frames are still useful for some things. Google's image search still uses them.

 

[jimtron]

http://www.yaml.de/en/home.html

Wow, great resource.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

http://www.yaml.de/en/home.html

Thanks for that. I may be in over my head with the site conversion. Fortunately one of the web guys that works at my station told me he'd take a look at it and give me a hand with the 'updating.'

Which is good - I'd rather spend more time working on music than crunching web code.

If anyone wants to take a look at the site and point out the horrendous mistakes I'm sure I've made - have at it.

http://www.drivebysonata.com