Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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WGBH said:
So, here I am. I do not care who helps me or gives me good ideas.Bigfoot believers OR skeptics. I just want answers period.
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You have been provided with many potential answers. You seem to only want to hear certain kinds of answers. I think you are looking for answers about things like where Bigfoot chooses to sleep, the birth size of their offspring, what part of the body creates the stench, their average longevity, etc.

I could be wrong about that.
 
William Parcher said:
You have been provided with many potential answers. You seem to only want to hear certain kinds of answers. I think you are looking for answers about things like where Bigfoot chooses to sleep, the birth size of their offspring, what part of the body creates the stench, their average longevity, etc.

I could be wrong about that.
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Well, let's review shall we. I am either a daydreamer,a hallucinator, a nut case, a liar, or I saw an undocumented animal. If it were you, which would you want to chose?

The most important thing I need to know about Bigfoot is, does it exist. I will leave the rest to people that care about such things.
 
I am either a daydreamer,a hallucinator,
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For all practical purposes, these are the same.


a nut case, a liar,
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Same again.


or I saw an undocumented animal.
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If it were you, which would you want to chose?
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Three different hats sitting in a store. Pick the top hat if you want to be a dandy. Pick the cowboy hat if you want to be a wrangler. Take the hard hat if you want to be a skyscraper builder.

Are you no person at all if you walk out with no hat? You feel you must choose a hat?
 
If you really want an unbiased answer, you must be willing to accept the possibility that you haven't seen a real bigfoot, regardless on how realistic your sighting experience may seem for you.

Remember, the answers to the question "are bigfeet real?" include the "NO" (or "based on the currently available data, no", if you preffer) option. This would mean your experience was atually some sort of hallucination, daydream, etc., regardless on how unconfortable you might feel about this idea. If you are actually looking for the truth, you must leave behind personal feelings and bias about the outcome.

And if this turns out to be the case, so what? Having experiences such as hallucinations, daydreams, etc. won't make you a worse human being. It doesn't mean you are mad.
 
He already told his circle of Bigfooter friends that he unquestionably saw a BF. Pick the wrong hat now and you have to go back and tell them all that you are no longer certain you saw a Biggie. What happens next?
 
Choose the environment:
a.the internet
b.real life
c.a pink perfect world

Honestly, I think it should not be a problem to admit you may be mistaken about something. At least not usually.
 
I'm talking about your good friends with their common denominator being Bigfoot belief. Some are the "knowers". You tell them you are no longer certain, after forming your friendship from the opposite (I saw a BF for sure). Do they ask you if "those BF skeptics" got inside your head and caused you to switch hats? Do your friends begin to hassle you for that? Do they pull out your extremely detailed report (stunk like hell, saw muscles and tendons) and ask you how that could possibly come from a daydream? Do they suggest that you might be crazy to think it wasn't a Bigfoot?

How does that friendship proceed?
 
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Again, depends on the environment.

a.the internet:
Lots of trolling, name-calling, etc. from some more fanatic emotional types, given the impersonal nature of WWW fora. Many people will accept your position, even if they disagree. Some will say they are not happy with it.

b.real life:
Very few people will confront you in face-to-face contacts; some, however, will hiss behind you. Many people will cahnge subject afer giving you the look... Real friends and nice people will say OK, its your call, even if I can't understand your reasons or disagree with you. Hey, that's not unlike here...

c.a pink perfect world:
Only nice people live here, so they will say OK, its your call, even if I can't understand your reasons or disagree with you.
 
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Are you no person at all if you walk out with no hat? You feel you must choose a hat?

Yes, I need to know the answer.

He already told his circle of Bigfooter friends that he unquestionably saw a BF. Pick the wrong hat now and you have to go back and tell them all that you are no longer certain you saw a Biggie. What happens next?

Why are we dealing in hypotheticals now? If it was proven that I did not see a Bigfoot, so be it. But It needs to be proof. I would tell them the truth.

I'm talking about your good friends with their common denominator being Bigfoot belief. Some are the "knowers". You tell them you are no longer certain, after forming your friendship from the opposite (I saw a BF for sure). Do they ask you if "those BF skeptics" got inside your head and caused you to switch hats? Do your friends begin to hassle you for that? Do they pull out your extremely detailed report (stunk like hell, saw muscles and tendons) and ask you how that could possibly come from a daydream? Do they suggest that you might be crazy to think it wasn't a Bigfoot?

How does that friendship proceed?

No they do not ask me those questions. No they do not call me names. No they do not pressure me into believing anything, they are my friends. I have 4 people involved in this research who I would consider close friends and that I trust. 3 are enthusiasts, 1 a skeptic and we all go out in the woods together. None of them are witnesses. Would you like to join us?

You are aware that there are skeptics who do actually get out in the woods and search, correct?
 
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Edit: Accidentally replied to an old post - redundant.
 
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WGBH said:
Why are we dealing in hypotheticals now? If it was proven that I did not see a Bigfoot, so be it. But It needs to be proof. I would tell them the truth.
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How could it be proven that you didn't see a BF? What would that proof look like?
 
William Parcher said:
How could it be proven that you didn't see a BF? What would that proof look like?
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I dunno, One could stroll out in front of me and the other 4 people there do not see it? So I imagine them.
 
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You are going back to the Dismal Swamp alone soon. What would you say the odds are that you might see a bigfoot again on that trip?
 
Spektator said:
You are going back to the Dismal Swamp alone soon. What would you say the odds are that you might see a bigfoot again on that trip?
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Zero I hope. I don't need to see Bigfoot again. I need to get in the woods.
 
Well, the description of the creature does not seem to fit bigfoot too well. I'm not sure why one would think it was a bigfoot. A 9'X5' creature of any sort is going to leave all sorts of signs of it's presence and passing in the woods. It's gonna eat a lot and leave a lot behind it. A lot of stripped branches 9 or 10 feet off the ground would be noticed, too.

If I saw the same creature, "bigfoot" is not what would enter my mind as an explanation. This creature could probably pick Patty up and throw her...
 
WGBH said:
I am at work and I am still not feeling well but I have this to say.

I have never wanted anything from any of these forums except to be able to talk about my experience. I went to the BFF hoping for help or just someone to chat with about it. Instead, I was stoned at the gate. Even by some "well known and respected researchers". I could have handled the attacks better, I will admit this. But it was very upsetting. I was thinking I had finally found the people I needed to talk to and the place to do so.

Another observation of mine is THERE ARE NO BIGFOOT EXPERTS. How can you be an expert in something you cannot even find? I go to these conferences and watch the presentations and I sometimes just want to stand up and shout that out. Most of the so-called experts have never even witnessed the animal. My point to this is, I seem to be looking for help that is not there and I am extremely frustrated already.

So, here I am. I do not care who helps me or gives me good ideas.Bigfoot believers OR skeptics. I just want answers period.

I get attacked from both sides anyway...
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John, the BFF is what it is ( and we both know), the majority of the "in crowd" over there are clueless ( as evidenced by the "fruits" of their cumulative labor) and have some "secret" whatever as if that means something.

Those "self styled" experts of whom you speak have produced nothing. They know less than nothing.

Personally, I'm glad you are here and hope you enjoy your stay. I think your contributions regarding your experience are good and you might find some answers or at least assistance from some here.
 
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Well, the description of the creature does not seem to fit bigfoot too well. I'm not sure why one would think it was a bigfoot. A 9'X5' creature of any sort is going to leave all sorts of signs of it's presence and passing in the woods. It's gonna eat a lot and leave a lot behind it. A lot of stripped branches 9 or 10 feet off the ground would be noticed, too.

If I saw the same creature, "bigfoot" is not what would enter my mind as an explanation. This creature could probably pick Patty up and throw her...
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Yes, it was a large one, Interestingly enough there is a new BFRO sighting report from 5 years earlier in North Carolina. The description of the animal is similar and it was also a daytime sighting.


http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=6267
 
John, why would that person wait 27 years to report seeing a Bigfoot? Saw it in 1976 and reported it in 1993.
 
22 gauge rifle ? Don't sound like experienced hunters...

If it was downwind, why did they see it? It should have been gone long before they got there, both from their scent and from the noise.
 
LTC8K6 said:
If I saw the same creature, "bigfoot" is not what would enter my mind as an explanation. This creature could probably pick Patty up and throw her...
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What would you consider this creature to be then?

Nice thread, don't want to interrupt. But this has been itching at me. Would the creature that J witnessed possibly be a male 'Patty'? One more question actually, if the witness has studied anthropology at all, what species would this creature most likely be?

If it was a homonoid, it would be pretty well depicted and described here:
http://www.archaeologyinfo.com/species.htm
 
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