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its really worth a watch in case you are interested in our planet.
 
"Home"

Anyone else watching "Home" on YouTube? Seems to me to be more "same old", and doesn't really add anything new at all, but it's a nice watch from an artistic point of view.
 
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I was, indeed nothing really new, we know it a good while now already.

but it also have very beatifull pictures from around the world and very good music.
 
Also pretty biased and one-sided (humans are evil, period). Give us some good news and success stories. Why not also talk about how organic farming speeds up deforestation while not really having any advantages (at least if we are to believe Skeptoid;))? It's also ironic how so many of my fellow environmentalists cry so loudly for others to "dare to think new" and "be bold" when it comes to finding new sources of power, yet are themselves terrified to "think new" by looking into nuclear power, one of the cleanest, safest, most effective source of electricity we have.
 
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Also pretty biased and one-sided (humans are evil, period). Give us some good news and success stories. Why not also talk about how organic farming speeds up deforestation while not really having any advantages (at least if we are to believe Skeptoid;))? It's also ironic how so many of my fellow environmentalists cry so loudly for others to "dare to think new" and "be bold" when it comes to finding new sources of power, yet are themselves terrified to "think new" by looking into nuclear power, one of the cleanest, safest, most effective source of electricity we have.
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did you watch the end of the film? it showed many many examples of how we could solve the problems, they showed thermal plants, water(tidal) solar and wind plants etc. htey mentioned farmers that do think and take care, they also mentioned fishers that actually care about the fish population. they mentioned fairtrade.

i dont know how it is with nuclear power in your country. but here in switzerland and germany we have a realy problem with the waste, we still have no solution for it. thats a huge problem for us. im more looking forward to Fusion technology.

but indeed many cry and dont act.
i try to act where i can, i have no car, buy from local farmers and buy fairtrade products where ever i can, but it consumes more money, im lucky to have it, others dont.

ETA: ah i see your from Norway, scandinavian countrys are a great example of nations that actually care think and act.
 
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did you watch the end of the film?
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Haven't gotten that far.

I'm of a divided mind about the film right now, actually. I feel it places too much emphasis on how we're threatening our environment. Fair enough, we need to improve our way of living, but making a one and a half hour long film about how humans are bad just overdoes it in my opinion. It's counterproductive.
 
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Given everything I know so far about how much your opinion differs from mine, why should I take your word that this particular Youtube video won't be a colossal waste of my time, regardless of my interest in the planet or anything else?
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well maybe you are interested in views contradicting to yours, maybe you just want hear what you agree on already anyway, i dont know.
maybe google about it, read what it is about and then decide to watch it.
 
Watching the end now - seems to be more of the "fad" solutions everyone support without knowing much about them: solar panels on houses, "fair trade", wind farms, et cetera.
This is an interesting read:

http://www.ornl.gov/info/ornlreview/...t/colmain.html

It explains that coal fired plants release far more radioactivity per watt of capacity than nuclear plants do.

Nuclear waste is very hazardous, but the waste from a nuclear plant is only the tiniest fraction of the waste a coal-fired plant would produce.
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I used to be an opponent of nuclear power, too (who isn't these days?), but then I read a thread called something like "Nuclear power - I need to rant/rave". Then I listened to Brian Dunning's Skeptoid podcase, the Terror of Nuclear Power. He put things into perspective, and I was finally converted.
 
I can't be bothered to watch it. Please post a complete transcript and I will tell you whether it is any good.
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Copy-paste everything said so far by the "PC greenies" and you've got the transcript. Features:

  • Humans are destroying our climate/upsetting balance, etc (repeated 100 times throughout film).
  • Various statistics about how long we've been here, how long the Earth's been here, etc.
  • We're using too much oil (repeated 100 times throughout film).
  • We need to change our habits, and we aren't.
  • Fair Trade, whatever that is, is good.
  • Eating meat is bad.
  • Some stuff about various energy sources that are "in" right now.
Etc, etc, etc.

I'm an environmentalist as much as the next guy, and very concerned about AGW as I live in an affected area, and I don't necessarily disagree with the film's points, but you shouldn't watch it because it adds anything new. It doesn't.
 
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Also pretty biased and one-sided (humans are evil, period). Give us some good news and success stories. Why not also talk about how organic farming speeds up deforestation while not really having any advantages (at least if we are to believe Skeptoid;))? It's also ironic how so many of my fellow environmentalists cry so loudly for others to "dare to think new" and "be bold" when it comes to finding new sources of power, yet are themselves terrified to "think new" by looking into nuclear power, one of the cleanest, safest, most effective source of electricity we have.
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Well said, I couldn't agree more.
 
i find this glorification of nuclear technology very unsceptical.
its a good technology but its not as superb as most seem to belive.
what and where do you store the waste? we havent found a real solution yet.
 
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