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bill smith said:
I'd be more interested in how it performed in high winds when the building swayed by 6 feet. Tell me why you think it's a credible design ?
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It stood up to every wind that was thrown at it.

Engineers don't always get it right. Another very big (915 ft tall) modern NYC building was at risk until engineers found and fixed the problem. A 70MPH wind could have been enough to make it fail. The fix was done in secret so a not to scare the occupants.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citigroup_Center#Engineering_crisis_of_1978

The same building has a 350 Ton swinging mass at the top that counters the wind forces and limits the sway.
 
Well if you guys think it is a sound design then so be it. Unless there is a hidden component- and I can't see where there could be I think it is incredible despite the fact that it stood for 25 years. I feel that it has to be a photo of another antenna.
 
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Toke said:
Staying in place for 30 years makes it a credible design*.

Engineers have a way with numbers that let them come up with design specifications that tend to hold.



*And no, I don´t know if it was added at, or sometime after, construction.
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You posted my line.:) The engineers got paid for their design so someone thought it was credible. And yes, it worked until it was hit by forces outside of the design envelope.
 
bill smith said:
Well if you guys think it is a sound design then so be it. Unless there is a hidden component- and I can't see where there could be I think it is incredible despite the fact that it stood for 25 years. I feel that it has to be a photo of another antenna.
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Apparently your sense of incredibility can be hid in a thimble.

Reality does not have to conform to your wishes Bill.
 
bill smith said:
Well if you guys think it is a sound design then so be it. Unless there is a hidden component- and I can't see where there could be I think it is incredible despite the fact that it stood for 25 years. I feel that it has to be a photo of another antenna.
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Sorry, bill, you're running into Poe's Law here. No one is getting the joke.

Unless you're seriously claiming that the entire antenna was held up by the four small stand-pipes in the foreground of that photo. (Poe's Law can be tricky, after all. As can depth perception, for some people.)

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
Myriad said:
Sorry, bill, you're running into Poe's Law here. No one is getting the joke.

Unless you're seriously claiming that the entire antenna was held up by the four small stand-pipes in the foreground of that photo. (Poe's Law can be tricky, after all. As can depth perception, for some people.)

Respectfully,
Myriad
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Do you mean it's a fake ? I can go with that.
 
Bill, this isn't meant to be a snarky question, but are you legally blind in one eye? Someone I know is completely blind in one eye, which completely messes up his depth perception and can lead to some odd conclusions based on visual information. Between this latest conversation and the earlier one regarding parallax, I am starting to wonder.
 
Hokulele said:
Bill, this isn't meant to be a snarky question, but are you legally blind in one eye? Someone I know is completely blind in one eye, which completely messes up his depth perception and can lead to some odd conclusions based on visual information. Between this latest conversation and the earlier one regarding parallax, I am starting to wonder.
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More likely he just has the mind of a child, considering all the other dumb crap he's gullibly swallowed whole. A completely lost cause.
 
Hokulele said:
Bill, this isn't meant to be a snarky question, but are you legally blind in one eye? Someone I know is completely blind in one eye, which completely messes up his depth perception and can lead to some odd conclusions based on visual information. Between this latest conversation and the earlier one regarding parallax, I am starting to wonder.
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Lacking an eye wouldn't make a difference here. There's no true depth to perceive in pictures and video (they're two-dimensional, even if the objects displayed are three-dimensional out in the real world), so people with both eyes see pictures and video the same way that people with one eye would see them.

His problem is with his brain, not his eyes.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
Lacking an eye wouldn't make a difference here. There's no true depth to perceive in pictures and video (they're two-dimensional, even if the objects displayed are three-dimensional out in the real world), so people with both eyes see pictures and video the same way that people with one eye would see them.

His problem is with his brain, not his eyes.
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My point is that he may be used to interpreting visual information differently. Yes, we see 2D images the same way, but those who are fully sighted are used to dealing with depth perception in a tangible way those who are partially sighted aren't.

I am incredibly near-sighted, and I can distinctly remember the first time I had to walk down a staircase after getting glasses. It felt like I was in a funhouse, although things technically "looked" the same, just clearer.

I guess I really don't know how to describe this properly, but vision, particularly depth perception, is really easy to take for granted.
 
Hokulele said:
My point is that he may be used to interpreting visual information differently. Yes, we see 2D images the same way, but those who are fully sighted are used to dealing with depth perception in a tangible way those who are partially sighted aren't.
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Ah, OK. I think I see what you're getting at. Sorry. :)
 
Hokulele said:
No worries. :)

It is always hard to mentally picture visual abnormalities unless you suffer from them personally. Every try covering one eye and walking around the neighborhood? It is really strange at first, but you get used to it after a bit.
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Yeah, I'm suffering from a visual abnormality. Like right now, f'rinstance, it seems to say "Happy Birthday!" under your avatar. Crazy, I know, but maybe I've been drinking too much.
 
Hokulele said:
What!? Who put that there? Is the NWO tracking me?! Help, help, I'm being oppressed!
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Well, birthdays are important numbers, and according to this alleged "Birthday" alert, yours is May 27th, or 5/27. This is not at all close to the reciprocal of an approximation of pi (commonly 22/7), nor is it anything special when the numbers are mixed in an ordinary fashion (5+27=32, 5-27=-22, 5*27=135) but if we take 52-27 it equals -2, or 9-11!

This is the NWO Secrit Mesage! Hokulele is NWO!!!11!!1one
 
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