Why are truthers still debating the same old people?

Alt+F4 said:
You know the reason why FOIA requests take so long, right? It gives the government the opportunity to make the information up, so I've been told.
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You mean like the same reason it took so long to start the 9/11 commisison?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
You mean like the same reason it took so long to start the 9/11 commisison?
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Why do you consider information you receive from the government as "evidence" when it's clear you consider the government as part of the plot?
 
Alt+F4 said:
Why do you consider information you receive from the government as "evidence" when it's clear you consider the government as part of the plot?
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I never stated the governemnt was part of the plot.

I would if i find that out during research.
 
Why don't truthers work on reasonable grassroots activities to expand their message?

1. Write a book.
2. Produce a show for public access cable.
3. Put ads in college newpapers, which are generally open to more radical ideas.
4. Have a bake sale.

The civil rights movement was able to achieve so much despite little public support in the begining. Did anyone ever imagine ten years ago that there would be gay marriage anywhere in the U.S?

9/11 Truth has failed miserably as a movement....and there is a reason why.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
I never stated the governemnt was part of the plot.

I would if i find that out during research.
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Then who's fault was it that the 9/11 Commission didn't have enough time or money, in your opinion? Who refused them the time and the money?
 
Alt+F4 said:
Why don't truthers work on reasonable grassroots activities to expand their message?
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People will not accept anything thats different from what they believe on this forum what makes you think they will accept anything from other activities?
 
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Alt+F4 said:
Then who's fault was it that the 9/11 Commission didn't have enough time or money, in your opinion? Who refused them the time and the money?
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Well if the government was really concerened about finding out the truth of 9/11 they should have made sure the 9/11 commission had enough time and money.
 
Alt+F4 said:
Why don't truthers work on reasonable grassroots activities to expand their message?

1. Write a book.
2. Produce a show for public access cable.
3. Put ads in college newpapers, which are generally open to more radical ideas.
4. Have a bake sale.

The civil rights movement was able to achieve so much despite little public support in the begining. Did anyone ever imagine ten years ago that there would be gay marriage anywhere in the U.S?

9/11 Truth has failed miserably as a movement....and there is a reason why.
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From what I can see, the "Obama-Isn't-a-Citizen" loons are doing in 4 months what the "Truth Movement" hasn't done in years.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
People will not accept anything thats different from what they believe on this forum what makes you think they will accept anything from other activities?
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Because the Internet is a lazy way of communicating and getting things done. It's the easy way out. The Internet has been widely available for about 15 years and how has it advance justice or any social cause in any sort of significant way?

When I was an undergraduate I, with many others, protested against apartheid in South Africa. If the Internet was available in 1985 how many of those protestors would have instead just written a strong criticism of South Africa on their blog?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
You are aware that 9/11 is s criminal investigation correct?
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9/11 is a set of numbers separated by a slash. In recent years it has come to represent the attacks of september 11th 2001. These attacks prompted a number of investigations, including criminal investigations by the FBI, as well as safety investigations by both the NTSB, FEMA, and NIST.

Thanks for playing.

I am getting facts and evidence from research, something you seem to know little about. I also get facts and evidence from FOIA request. I HAVE BEEN POSTING THEM FOR A LONG TIME.
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You are posting reports...not FACTS OR EVIDENCE. you are doing exactly what the 9/11 commission did...nothing more.

I know a hell of a lot more than you about research Roger. I am a Physician and Scientist, and I have been involved in several scientific RESEARCH studies.

Thanks for agreeing the 9/11 commission did not have enough time or money to do a proper investigation and were probably incompetent.
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Ahhh so now the commission was incompetent. Please show me how they were incompetent. Since I know you don't deal with opinion, but only facts and evidence, I will be expecting FACTS and EVIDENCE as proof the commission was incompetent.

TAM:)
 
ULTIMA1 said:
People will not accept anything thats different from what they believe on this forum what makes you think they will accept anything from other activities?
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But the question and the subject of this thread is: Why do you still debate the same old people? Why the hell should you care "what they believe on this forum"?

And what do you get out of repeating the same two oxymoronic arguments ("you just believe what you are told" vs. "show me an official report") and having every response show you are incorrect or just ridicule your lack of reading comprehension? What's in it for you?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
Hopefully as i do in other fourms, to talk those who just go by what they have been told to at least do research to find the truth.

If you only go by what you have been told then you are really disrepecting those who died and thier families.
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What if I told you that I HAVE done my own research, but did not come to the same conclusions that you did?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
People will not accept anything thats different from what they believe on this forum what makes you think they will accept anything from other activities?
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If a belief is based on a rational examination and analysis of evidence, it would be irrational to accept something that contradicts it.

There's nothing wrong with people here not accepting something that differs from their beliefs, so long as that belief is based on reason.
 
ULTIMA1 said:
So you must love being proven wrong, since i have been doing it so much and so often.
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Do you understand that nobody here thinks you've ever come close to proving anything you claim to have proved? How out of touch with reality can you be?
 
ULTIMA1 said:
I never stated the governemnt was part of the plot.

I would if i find that out during research.
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so you based on that statement one could conclude
that you make accusations without having done any research yet or you haven't finished your research

shocker :shocked:
 
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