Merged 9/11 CT subforum General Discussion Thread

[alexi_drago]

It might indicate that he was a plant....you know....helping the story along.

What? like by using some sort of reverse psychology on the truthers?

evil planners - 'yeah we'll get someone to say a 50 ton press was knocked over to make things sound suspicious to stupid people'

 

[BigAl]

Yes. I would say though that more than 80% of people around 9/11 woud have thought he was talking about a 50-ton machine . I actually know what a metal press is myself but I was not thinking as I suspect many others might not have. The impression given is of a giant explosion sufficient to move such a maachine while leaving a perfect out for the witness who can, as you say legitimtely say that he was talking about a 200-pound 50-ton press. Kind of ambiguous. It may mean nothing.

There was no "giant explosion" in the basement. There was a gas vapor explosion not unlike those in these videos.

Paint store explosion
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2178600570591048350
News Story
http://blogs.chron.com/woodlands/archives/2006/02/fume_fire_paint.html

Backdraft explosion #1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1_u-eAq5QU
Backdraft explosion #2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkNCqrJiXsU
Fire Dept practice mistake
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3326847714607168493

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[tsig]

It might indicate that he was a plant....you know....helping the story along.

Bill you went from using him as a witness to throwing him under the bus in four easy posts.

Got any other witness's whose credibility you want to impugn?

 

[Jackanory]

Bill you went from using him as a witness to throwing him under the bus in four easy posts.

Got any other witness's whose credibility you want to impugn?

All in a days work

 

[BigAl]

It might indicate that he was a plant....you know....helping the story along.

Given that a few tons of gas went down the shafts, absolutely nothing that happened afterwords requires a "story". Reality was bad enough.

 

[bill smith]

Bill you went from using him as a witness to throwing him under the bus in four easy posts.

Got any other witness's whose credibility you want to impugn?

A few similar to this..

 

[BigAl]

Yes. I would say though that more than 80% of people around 9/11 would have thought he was talking about a 50-ton machine . I actually know what a metal press is myself but I was not thinking as I suspect many others might not have. The impression given is of a giant explosion sufficient to move such a maachine while leaving a perfect out for the witness who can, as you say legitimtely say that he was talking about a 200-pound 50-ton press. Kind of ambiguous. It may mean nothing.

That paragraph makes no sense.

You are a fraud. If you really knew about metal presses you wouldn't have posted this earlier and state that "no floor would hold it."

Anybody remember a video where some WTC worker said that he had seen a 50-ton press just thrown to one side ? At that weight t had to be at the bottom of he basements bcause no floor would hold it.

What possible reason could there be for having such a large industrial machine in an office block ?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4728435#post4728435

 

[bill smith]

Bill you went from using him as a witness to throwing him under the bus in four easy posts.

Got any other witness's whose credibility you want to impugn?

Not really...when I thought it was a 50-ton machine I considered that to be very unlikely in an office block. Then when you guys kindly pointed out that it referred to a 200-pound 50-ton press it opened up another view on the situation which adds to my theory that the Bush administration deliberately started the 9/11 conspiracy theories themselves.

 

[alexi_drago]

Not really...when I thought it was a 50-ton machine I considered that to be very unlikely in an office block. Then when you guys kindly pointed out that it referred to a 200-pound 50-ton press it opened up another view on the situation which adds to my theory that the Bush administration deliberately started the 9/11 conspiracy theories themselves.

Conspiracies everywhere, I'm glad I'm not you.

 

[tsig]

A few similar to this..

Is this a random finger-dance on the keyboard?

 

[tsig]

Not really...when I thought it was a 50-ton machine I considered that to be very unlikely in an office block. Then when you guys kindly pointed out that it referred to a 200-pound 50-ton press it opened up another view on the situation which adds to my theory that the Bush administration deliberately started the 9/11 conspiracy theories themselves.

That would mean that you are aiding and abetting the(former) Bush administration right now by helping to spread the CT's.

 

[dtugg]

my theory that the Bush administration deliberately started the 9/11 conspiracy theories themselves.

And here you are shilling these ridiculous "theories" for them. How does that make you feel?

 

[Jackanory]

That paragraph makes no sense.

You are a fraud. If you really knew about metal presses you wouldn't have posted this earlier and state that "no floor would hold it."

As highlighted in post 3137. Its called backpaddling when caught BS itting.

 

[bill smith]

That would mean that you are aiding and abetting the(former) Bush administration right now by helping to spread the CT's.

The conspiracy thoeries have served their purpose for the neocons and the Bush administration. They still do to a lesser extent. But I think we are reaching the endgame. At least I hope so.

 

[BigAl]

The conspiracy thoeries have served their purpose for the neocons and the Bush administration. They still do to a lesser extent. But I think we are reaching the endgame. At least I hope so.

Good. Your job is done, you can do everyone a favor by never posting again.

 

[tsig]

Good. Your job is done, you can do everyone a favor by never posting again.

What's the fun of knowing about a secret cabal unless you tell everyone about it?

 

[DavidJames]

But I think we are reaching the endgame. At least I hope so.

What is the end game? Who are the participants, what does it look like and how does it play out?

 

[GlennB]

Not really...when I thought it was a 50-ton machine I considered that to be very unlikely in an office block. Then when you guys kindly pointed out that it referred to a 200-pound 50-ton press it opened up another view on the situation which adds to my theory that the Bush administration deliberately started the 9/11 conspiracy theories themselves.

 

[tfk]

Hey twoofer, a 50 ton press doesn't weigh 50 tons or anywhere close to that. And you put your extreme ignorance on display yet again...

I explained this to bill over a year ago.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04T49GGG7HFO/post6900
Showing him this example of a "50 ton hydraulic press".
http://www.mile-x.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=415
800 pounds, boxed for shipping.

It doesn't matter. Nothing ever gets removed from his "Bucket o' Nonsense". It just goes back in the bucket and pulled out again at a later date.

tk

 

[bill smith]

I explained this to bill over a year ago.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04T49GGG7HFO/post6900
Showing him this example of a "50 ton hydraulic press".
http://www.mile-x.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=415
800 pounds, boxed for shipping.

It doesn't matter. Nothing ever gets removed from his "Bucket o' Nonsense". It just goes back in the bucket and pulled out again at a later date.

tk

Really ? Tell me the post number then ? I didn't think I'd ever posted on the 50-ton press on topix. I certainly never realised that it was in fact a 200-pound machine because the guys here just helped me to realise that. Which post number please ?