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no serial numbers were identified from flight 77

Is this a "God of the Gaps" argument we are getting from out of our truculent truther?

You know what that argument is, of course, its where the idiot Creationists tell us; "You can't prove that whales evolved from land mammals, there are no fossils that show a transitional form!" And then you find a fossil of a whale with legs, and they tell you, that you STILL can't prove it, because you can't show them a form between that creature and the modern whale. And so on. And so on.

They rely on the fact that the fossil record is the ultimate "fog of war" and only records a "lucky" few creatures in any era, so the fossils you find of any sort of creature form discontinuous lines, and you are forced as a paleontologist to relate the discontinuities one to the other by shared morphological traits.

Their argument here, absolutely exemplified by the vapid vomitus spewed forth by H.I. here, is that since we cannot give them every number, every aircraft location, the position of every beverage cart and every in-flight magazine on 9/11/01, that we have not proven our case.

Its an airtight argument that seals out truth as efficiently as a plastic bag over the head seals out air. (Don't try that at home, truthers! Since you are SO stupid I thought I ought to warn you of that!)
 
Even to the degree your claim is true, so what? When considered in the context of the entire radar track and with all the other evidence, So what?

As stated and proven with sources, whenever a planes FDR data is missing or the FDR cannot be found the serial numbers must be used to verifiy ID of plane.
 
Their argument here, absolutely exemplified by the vapid vomitus spewed forth by H.I. here, is that since we cannot give them every number, every aircraft location, the position of every beverage cart and every in-flight magazine on 9/11/01, that we have not proven our case.

Even if "the reports" were available on line, with photographs, the vile truthers would just say they were faked as part of the nefarious conspiracy of epic proportions (NCEP) brought about by the omnipotent government, which is filled with employees having fanatical loyalty and obedience to their immediate chain of command, and not the slightest scruple of morality about murder, assassination, or committing atrocities.

Oh yeah, they have unlimited funding too.
 
People keep forgetting that AA77 was OFF THE SCREEN for several minutes and then not noticed for several more minutes by ATC.

Well it's nice of you to say they are merely forgetting. They didn't forget. It's just one of many reasons why they are trying to get this entire thread of debunker failure moved to AAH.

They cannot identify any of the planes from 9/11.
 
Even if "the reports" were available on line, with photographs, the vile truthers would just say they were faked as part of the nefarious conspiracy of epic proportions (NCEP) brought about by the omnipotent government, which is filled with employees having fanatical loyalty and obedience to their immediate chain of command, and not the slightest scruple of morality about murder, assassination, or committing atrocities.

Oh yeah, they have unlimited funding too.

Creationists, some of them, claim we actually constructed most of the fossils we base our arguments on. They point to the Piltdown hoax and then claim that all paleontology is therefore worthless.
 
Is this a "God of the Gaps" argument we are getting from out of our truculent truther?

You know what that argument is, of course, its where the idiot Creationists tell us; "You can't prove that whales evolved from land mammals, there are no fossils that show a transitional form!" And then you find a fossil of a whale with legs, and they tell you, that you STILL can't prove it, because you can't show them a form between that creature and the modern whale. And so on. And so on.

They rely on the fact that the fossil record is the ultimate "fog of war" and only records a "lucky" few creatures in any era, so the fossils you find of any sort of creature form discontinuous lines, and you are forced as a paleontologist to relate the discontinuities one to the other by shared morphological traits.

Their argument here, absolutely exemplified by the vapid vomitus spewed forth by H.I. here, is that since we cannot give them every number, every aircraft location, the position of every beverage cart and every in-flight magazine on 9/11/01, that we have not proven our case.

Its an airtight argument that seals out truth as efficiently as a plastic bag over the head seals out air. (Don't try that at home, truthers! Since you are SO stupid I thought I ought to warn you of that!)

Not an answer to this...

The whole 9/11 fairytale revolves around the fog of war, phantom planes, and the confusion of being under attack.

Now everyone knows exactly what was going on and what they were tracking according to this thread.
 
Well only by serial numbers from any parts that were found.

I mean the believers keep stating their were lots of parts found, even though they cannot show them or evidence of them.

Have you seen anything at all that indicates that aircraft parts were found at the Pentagon or any of the terrorist sites on 911?

Think really carefully Roger.
 
Well only by serial numbers from any parts that were found.

I mean the believers keep stating their were lots of parts found, even though they cannot show them or evidence of them.

Forget much?

Book: _Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11_
150 interviews with participants and eye-witnesses
 
Reported, off topic.

Prove that the fake NSA isn't keeping those reports top-secret for reasons of national security. If you can't give me the file numbers of those reports and the badge numbers of the agents involved then you can't say that I'm wrong.
 
Not an answer to this...

The whole 9/11 fairytale revolves around the fog of war, phantom planes, and the confusion of being under attack.

Now everyone knows exactly what was going on and what they were tracking according to this thread.

"exactly"? No, probably not.

"Good enough" for the basic story, yes. 19 Islamists hijacked 4 commercial jets and crashed them into three buildings and a corn field.

New information dribbles out and Twoofers don't read it yet they cite the cite the title and the author's name and claim the new information disproves the basic story. It doesn't, at least so far. If anything, it adds more supporting detail.
 
That did not parse in English. What *are* you claiming here?

It's not what I'm claiming. Debunkers are the ones with the all the claims like all of the 9/11 planes were positively tracked all the way until they crashed while at the same time clinging to a fairytale that relies on fog of war and the confusion of being under attack.
 
They kind of employment that doesn't afford me to be here 24/7 like most of the debunkers here.

None of your business.

Just answer my questions related to the topic of this thread or don't bother.

I ask for some verification of your employment experiences for obvious reasons. If i am arguing explosives, aircraft, military capability etc with a 10 year old skateboarder then i'll pass. If i'm argueing it with a pilot/instructor or a flight systems expert/analyst then i take notice and learn - how about you?
 
It's not what I'm claiming. Debunkers are the ones with the all the claims like all of the 9/11 planes were positively tracked all the way until they crashed while at the same time clinging to a fairytale that relies on fog of war and the confusion of being under attack.

No. They were not "positively tracked" on 9/11.

When all the FDA data, radar tapes, cell tower data, etc were assembled, we Adults can now say we know the complete track of the planes.
 
"exactly"? No, probably not.

"Good enough" for the basic story, yes. 19 Islamists hijacked 4 commercial jets and crashed them into three buildings and a corn field.

Good enough for you and your preconceived indoctrinated beliefs.

Not good enough for me.

New information dribbles out and Twoofers don't read it yet they cite the cite the title and the author's name and claim the new information disproves the basic story. It doesn't, at least so far. If anything, it adds more supporting detail.

If you have new information that positively identified the planes then post it.
 
It's not what I'm claiming. Debunkers are the ones with the all the claims like all of the 9/11 planes were positively tracked all the way until they crashed while at the same time clinging to a fairytale that relies on fog of war and the confusion of being under attack.

So where do you think all the people from those four flights are? At first I was thinking Fiji, but nah, too many political problems there. Most likely Tahiti, wouldn't you agree?
 

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