Hamas & Israel Cease-Fire. Hamas Violates cease-fire.

[mortimer]

do you read the news at all?

Do you provide evidence for your claims at all?

 

[Thunder]

Do you provide evidence for your claims at all?

yes. all the time.

Hillary Clinton spoke at NYU's graduation yesterday. Do I need to provide evidence for this?

 

[scissorhands]

In 1948, would you have supported the creation of Israel?

Holy cow. I just looked at the title of this thread and can't believe how far is has strayed.

Just answer the question Parky, Im going to bed soon and your evasions are getting boring.

 

[mortimer]

yes. all the time.

Hillary Clinton spoke at NYU's graduation yesterday. Do I need to provide evidence for this?

You need to provide evidence for your claims, if you wish to be taken seriously. You cannot expect your readers to research for you.

Otherwise, you end up claiming that Arabs will outnumber Jews in Israel in 50 years, and then refuse to provide evidence. Then when pressured for evidence, your evidence is blatantly wrong.

Its as much for your own good as for others.

Will you provide evidence?

 

[Thunder]

Just answer the question Parky, Im going to bed soon and your evasions are getting boring.

PM me. Ive grown, fatigued, of this personal matter.

 

[Bombastic Penguin]

Not at all. I don't happen to support the settlements, but, to claim them illegal is false and meant to demonize Israel. Constant bashing of Israel in the absence of equal attention to infinitely more egregious policies in the Arab world is emblematic of the self-loathing Jew.

After all, the only internationally recognized agree in relation to the settlements were dipped in the waters of Oslo.

Either way, this entire conflict has been self-inflicted by the Palestinians, and it can be resolved only by their hand alone.

 

[Bombastic Penguin]

PM me. Ive grown, fatigued, of this personal matter.

Very convenient for some who churns out threads everyday, slandering Israel.

Hey Parky, what did you think of the Black September massacre, Hama massacre, the year 2000 intifada against Israel, or what happened at Granada in 1066?

 

[Thunder]

After all, the only internationally recognized agree in relation to the settlements were dipped in the waters of Oslo.

Either way, this entire conflict has been self-inflicted by the Palestinians, and it can be resolved only by their hand alone.

yes. this is why i advocate that the Palestinians immediately adopt a complete policy of non-violent protest. this way, Israel will no longer be able to use the BS excuse of "self-defense" to justify the Apartheid Wall and the settlements.

If the Palestinians adopted non-violent protest against the Israeli Occupation, there would be an independent State of Palestine in the West Bank, with East Jerusalem as its capital in less then a year.

A non-violent Palestinian society is Israel's worst nightmare.

 

[mortimer]

yes. this is why i advocate that the Palestinians immediately adopt a complete policy of non-violent protest. this way, Israel will no longer be able to use the BS excuse of "self-defense" to justify the Apartheid Wall and the settlements.

If the Palestinians adopted non-violent protest against the Israeli Occupation, there would be an independent State of Palestine in the West Bank, with East Jerusalem as its capital in less then a year.

A non-violent Palestinian society is Israel's worst nightmare.

That flies in the face of the Israeli offer of a Palestinian state, which Arafat walked away from. The Palestinian leadership has no interest in a Palestinian state.

 

[Thunder]

The Palestinian leadership has no interest in a Palestinian state.

proof?

 

[mortimer]

proof?

They walked away from a proposal on the table to give them a Palestinian state. Quid pro quo?

 

[Marc39]

yes. this is why i advocate that the Palestinians immediately adopt a complete policy of non-violent protest. this way, Israel will no longer be able to use the BS excuse of "self-defense" to justify the Apartheid Wall and the settlements.

The "apartheid wall" wasn't there pre-intifada, pre suicide bombers. Get the facts straight, for once. Also, know that neither Hamas nor the PLO will ever accept Israel's right to exist, while Jews have recognized a Pal state going all the way back to the Peel partition of 1937. Your posts are on a junior high school level.

If the Palestinians adopted non-violent protest against the Israeli Occupation, there would be an independent State of Palestine in the West Bank, with East Jerusalem as its capital in less then a year.

Incredibly naive statement. The Pal claim of occupation refers to Israel, not the West Bank. A two-state solution is the next step to the plan to eventually destroy.

A non-violent Palestinian society is Israel's worst nightmare.

Pals have responded violently to Jews since the 7th century and to the present. A non-violent Pal society is difficult to envision given Pal violence inflicted upon each other.

 

[Lonewulf]

They walked away from a proposal on the table to give them a Palestinian state. Quid pro quo?

So... they walked away from the table because of the offer of a Palestinian state? There was nothing else involved in the deal?

 

[mortimer]

yes. all the time.

Hillary Clinton spoke at NYU's graduation yesterday. Do I need to provide evidence for this?

Are you claiming that in that speech Hillary Clinton said that Obama told Netanyahu that he wants prior warning if Israel were to attack Iran? Its not in the transcript.

 

[mortimer]

So... they walked away from the table because of the offer of a Palestinian state? There was nothing else involved in the deal?

Did I say that? Yeah, didn't think so. Point is, the Palestinian leadership had a proposal on the table, and they refused to negotiate, instead choosing to walk away.

 

[Bombastic Penguin]

yes. this is why i advocate that the Palestinians immediately adopt a complete policy of non-violent protest.

Be more specific. Hopefully you're not talking about the children's programming Hamas runs.

this way, Israel will no longer be able to use the BS excuse of "self-defense" to justify the

I'm guessing those IDF videos weren't enough for you, eh Parky?

Apartheid Wall and the settlements.

ad-nauseam

If the Palestinians adopted non-violent protest against the Israeli Occupation, there would be an independent State of Palestine in the West Bank, with East Jerusalem as its capital in less then a year.

Israel isn't Egypt Parky. Israel had already tried to give Palestinians their own state at Camp David and Taba, only to be rewarded with an intifada.
Since you want and internationally recognized terrorist organization to run a Palestinian state, I can see what you're advocating.

A non-violent Palestinian society is Israel's worst nightmare.

 

[Marc39]

So... they walked away from the table because of the offer of a Palestinian state? There was nothing else involved in the deal?

Have you read Dennis Ross's account of events in school class? Arafat rejected the Israeli proposal at Camp David because he was simply not interested in peace with Israel. The subsequent intifada was illustrative of that.

 

[Thunder]

Israel had already tried to give Palestinians their own state at Camp David and Taba

The Palestinians were very wrong to not take advantage of the offers made at Taba. A peace deal in the hands of Ehud Barak would have ensured his re-election and a Palestinian state, with most if not all of the Jewish settlements removed and the Arab areas of Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine.

 

[mortimer]

Do you provide evidence for your claims at all?

yes. all the time.

Hillary Clinton spoke at NYU's graduation yesterday. Do I need to provide evidence for this?

You need to provide evidence for your claims, if you wish to be taken seriously. You cannot expect your readers to research for you.

Otherwise, you end up claiming that Arabs will outnumber Jews in Israel in 50 years, and then refuse to provide evidence. Then when pressured for evidence, your evidence is blatantly wrong.

Its as much for your own good as for others.

Will you provide evidence?

You claimed that you provide evidence for your claims "all the time". You have not provided evidence for the claims I requested evidence for (three times). This makes you a liar. Either provide the evidence, retract your claim that you provide evidence "all the time", or retract your original claims. Thanks.

 

[Marc39]

You claimed that you provide evidence for your claims "all the time". You have not provided evidence for the claims I requested evidence for (three times). This makes you a liar. Either provide the evidence, retract your claim that you provide evidence "all the time", or retract your original claims. Thanks.

Mostly evidence from Wikipedia, which is not such a good idea...
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1082777.html