Why a one-way Crush down is not possible

[FineWine]

This post is a virtual twin to the one in which I used the 'Bullcrap' remark. Therefore I must repeat myself. Bullcrap from start to finish.

Yes, we can all see that you're at a loss for words. I'll help you get started. The horribly misnamed "truth" movement was correct in predicting...?
How about that pipeline in Afghanistan? No, that didn't happen. Ah, we magically stole oil from Iraq. No, the Russkies and the Chinese inked all the sweetheart deals. American armies are marching through the Middle East like Mongol hordes. No, we have a liberal president who's trying to pull out of the region. Scientists and engineers all over the world have risen in protest against NIST's fraudulent science. Afraid not. Nobody in countries unfriendly to America has pointed out any errors in the NIST reports.

Well, I tried. Your confession that you're never done with Bush shows the depth of your problem. He's gone. He's just not there anymore. You can stamp your feet, scream, hold your breath--he isn't coming back. It looks like the purpose of your conspiracy was to wipe out the Republicans and restore the Democrats to power. Not exactly what you people were yelling about, is it?

 

[FineWine]

Why don't you guys dig up 30 structural engineeers from all the ones you claim. Let them go on live TV against Richard Gage's team of 30 structural engineers led by Heiwa. You can even throw Ray Mackey in for a little added colour.

Real scientists and engineers can't "go live" against Gage, Heiwa, or the other frauds because YOUR SIDE WON'T SHOW UP.

 

[six7s]

This is about the size of it in the immortal words of Mike Rivero.

"Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all."

I'll see your Mike Rivero and raise you two Bertrand Russells

A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.

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If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinise it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it.

If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence.

The origin of myths is explained in this way.
Bertrand Russell (1872 - 1970)
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[T.A.M.]

my favorite, was when they were predicting Bush and Cheney would reverse, or not allow, the presidential elections, and instead declare martial law. That was a good one...lots of laughs.

TAM

 

[Heiwa]

Real scientists and engineers can't "go live" against Gage, Heiwa, or the other frauds because YOUR SIDE WON'T SHOW UP.

I am here to support Why a one-way Crush down is not possible. I actually started the thread. And nobody seems to be able to debunk me. I wonder why?

 

[bill smith]

Yes, we can all see that you're at a loss for words. I'll help you get started. The horribly misnamed "truth" movement was correct in predicting...?
How about that pipeline in Afghanistan? No, that didn't happen. Ah, we magically stole oil from Iraq. No, the Russkies and the Chinese inked all the sweetheart deals. American armies are marching through the Middle East like Mongol hordes. No, we have a liberal president who's trying to pull out of the region. Scientists and engineers all over the world have risen in protest against NIST's fraudulent science. Afraid not. Nobody in countries unfriendly to America has pointed out any errors in the NIST reports.

Well, I tried. Your confession that you're never done with Bush shows the depth of your problem. He's gone. He's just not there anymore. You can stamp your feet, scream, hold your breath--he isn't coming back. It looks like the purpose of your conspiracy was to wipe out the Republicans and restore the Democrats to power. Not exactly what you people were yelling about, is it?

Perhaps you are done with generalising and we can get bck to specifics ?

 

[six7s]

I am here to support Why a one-way Crush down is not possible. I actually started the thread. And nobody seems to be able to debunk me. I wonder why?

You have had your whacky notions dissected and handed back to you on a plate...

Maybe you can't recognise them because they are so completely torn to shreds

 

[six7s]

Perhaps you are done with generalising and we can get bck to specifics ?

The ball is in your court:

If it really is 'bullcrap from start to finish', you will be able to describe at least one thing that has "turned out the way you predicted"

Please, EITHER do so OR accept that your reputation as a self-deluding and willfully-ignorant liar will become further entrenched in the minds of those reading this thread

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We're waiting

 

[FineWine]

I am here to support Why a one-way Crush down is not possible. I actually started the thread. And nobody seems to be able to debunk me. I wonder why?

Former heavyweight champion Max Baer staggered back to his corner at the end of a round in his fight with Joe Louis. Baer's manager said to his battered and bleeding fighter, "You're doing great. He hasn't laid a glove on you." Maxie replied, "Keep your eye on that referee. Someone out there is beating the living **** out of me."

 

[FineWine]

Perhaps you are done with generalising and we can get bck to specifics ?

I suggest looking up the word "specific."

 

[T.A.M.]

I am here to support Why a one-way Crush down is not possible. I actually started the thread. And nobody seems to be able to debunk me. I wonder why?

nobody really gives a **** what you have to say on the matter, I am guessing.

but that is just a guess.

TAM

 

[bill smith]

I am here to support Why a one-way Crush down is not possible. I actually started the thread. And nobody seems to be able to debunk me. I wonder why?

In the second collapse in this video a big piece of the core appears to remain standing. Would that piece have destroyed the hypthetical falling block C ? If so should collapse arrest have occurred soon after ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY

 

[FineWine]

In the second collapse in this video a big piece of the core appears to remain standing. Would that piece have destroyed the hypthetical falling block C ? If so should collapse arrest have occurred soon after ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY

We agree then that nothing turned out the way you people predicted. Heiwa has been debunked from here to next week. Stick a fork in him.

 

[bill smith]

We agree then that nothing turned out the way you people predicted. Heiwa has been debunked from here to next week. Stick a fork in him.

You sound like you mean in his eye. lol. Well, not to get too involved in this or anything- we predicted thermite almost from the get-go and that has proved to be true.

 

[Grizzly Bear]

we predicted thermite almost from the get-go and that has proved to be true.

What Hollywood films have you viewed to come to this conclusion? Because I see no indication of incendiary-induced collapse progression.

 

[FineWine]

You sound like you mean in his eye. lol. Well, not to get too involved in this or anything- we predicted thermite almost from the get-go and that has proved to be true.

Galileo is to be pitied, but unless you want to be regarded in a similar fashion, you'd do well to keep in mind that your guru's "thermite" turned out to be red paint. Your prediction, like ALL "truther" predictions, was dead wrong.

 

[bill smith]

Galileo is to be pitied, but unless you want to be regarded in a similar fashion, you'd do well to keep in mind that your guru's "thermite" turned out to be red paint. Your prediction, like ALL "truther" predictions, was dead wrong.

I suppose you can tell the peer-review board that or better still produce your own peer reviewed paper to counter it. Failing that- It stands unchallenged.

 

[FineWine]

I suppose you can tell the peer-review board that or better still produce your own peer reviewed paper to counter it. Failing that- It stands unchallenged.

The worthless paper was challenged and utterly destroyed by Sunstealer, who is a real materials scientist. The pay-for-play journal is bogus. Several editors quit over the publication of this travesty.

 

[beachnut]

Why don't you guys dig up 30 structural engineeers from all the ones you claim. Let them go on live TV against Richard Gage's team of 30 structural engineers led by Heiwa. You can even throw Ray Mackey in for a little added colour.

Heiwa was debunk since the earth was formed.
Heiwa was debunk specifically on 911 three times.
Hewa is debunked by models you can't figure out due to lack of knowledge, ignorace in structures, math, phyiscs, sceicne, rational thought, logic and other topics.

Please provide rational critique of these papers; if you could understand these papers you would understand Heiwa's ideas are failed nut case ideas.

http://www-math.mit.edu/~bazant/WTC/WTC-asce.pdf
http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/405.pdf
http://www.civil.northwestern.edu/people/bazant/PDFs/Papers/466.pdf

Which paper have you read? Are you an engineer and a pilot like me; what is your profession? Why do you lack the skill to see fraud on 911?
These papers refute Heiwa. You support failed work, failed opinions, and failed ideas on 911.

 

[bill smith]

The worthless paper was challenged and utterly destroyed by Sunstealer, who is a real materials scientist. The pay-for-play journal is bogus. Several editors quit over the publication of this travesty.

When will Sunstealer go for peer review ? I don't think we should hold our breath, do you ? The Nobel people who have peer reviewed papers there seem happy enough don't they ? No, Bentham is fully accredited and authentic. The paper stands.