Split Thread AA77 FBI Investigation [split from: AA77 FDR Data, Explained]

[ULTIMA1]

Failure to understand 911 is your problem. Completely free of evidence; you brought opinions to a fact fight.

Speaking of facts, i am still waiting for the photos and vidoes of AA77 hitting the Pentagon. Also the official reports matching parts found to the plane.

There is literally tons of evidence proving your failed opinions to be delusions.

So show us the ton of evidence with verifiable reports to support the evidence.

Explain why a serial number for the FDR is needed?

Maybe because its evidence.

The engines were 77’s can you prove they are not?

Can you prove they are 77's engines?

The wheels are 77’s. Can you prove they are not?

Can you prove they are 77's wheels and not from another plane that uses the same wheels?

Correct amount of wreckage at the Pentagon for 77. Thousands of aircraft accident investigators agree with me;

So then you should have no problem showing the FBI and NTSB reprots that match the parts to the plane.

DNA proves 77 impacted the Pentagon. Can you refute the DNA and list your evidence?

No coroner reports that all the bodies from 77 were in the Pentagon.

 

[ULTIMA1]

[ What is the average length of time spent working at a crime scene? Especially one where it is apparent to most sane people exactly what happened?

How would you know what is or is not a world record? How long should the FBI have spent working on the crime scene? Don't you people have any humility at all?

Well look at all the other crime scenes that the FBI investigated, they knew what happened at the first WTC bombing and they knew what happened at the Oklahoma city bombing and look at the time they spent at the crime scenes.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

I suppose this is your crack law enforcement background talking.

 

[beachnut]

Speaking of facts, i am still waiting for the photos and vidoes of AA77 hitting the Pentagon. Also the official reports matching parts found to the plane.

No coroner reports that all the bodies from 77 were in the Pentagon.

Why do we need serial numbers of parts from flight 77 when no parts caused the accident or needed to be investigate because the cause of the crash was the terrorists you now apologize for every day you post.

Explain why we need serial numbers for anything? Show regulations and sources. Sources? When will you have something on this?

The coroner reports list all but one passenger on 77; you are wrong about this. The navy assigned people to make sure their people were accounted for; so prove there was no DNA from the passengers on 77 found in the Pentagon with sources and evidence. Go ahead do some of that NSA analysis you do so well.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

I wonder if it ever occurred to genius here that some of the serial numbers on the aircraft parts might have been mangled beyond recognition on account of...oh, I don't know...

CRASHING INTO THE PENTAGON.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Why do we need serial numbers of parts from flight 77 when no parts caused the accident or needed to be investigate because the cause of the crash was the terrorists you now apologize for every day you post.

Yes we do need the serial numbers from the parts to confirm it was AA77. Thats a normal part of a crime scene investigation, even you should know that.

The coroner reports list all but one passenger on 77; you are wrong about this. .

So show me the coroner reports that show all the bodies from AA77 were in the Pentagon.

 

[ULTIMA1]

I wonder if it ever occurred to genius here that some of the serial numbers on the aircraft parts might have been mangled beyond recognition on account of...oh, I don't know...

Thanks for showing you know nothing about aircraft parts.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

We could draw it for you on an interstate billboard in huge easy-to-read Crayola letters and it still wouldn't make a dent.

That's not why you're here and we both know it.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Thanks for showing you know nothing about aircraft parts.

Yet another one of your canned responses.

Enlighten me. Show me how that demonstrates my ignorance of aircraft parts.

What would it take for you? Does the NTSB have to arrange all of the recovered plane fragments in a warehouse for YOU to personally inspect?

Would you even know what you were looking for?

Do you smell that? You're burning your Pop-Tarts.

 

[ULTIMA1]

We could draw it for you on an interstate billboard in huge easy-to-read Crayola letters and it still wouldn't make a dent.

That's not why you're here and we both know it.

Reported breach rule 12

 

[ULTIMA1]

What would it take for you? Does the NTSB have to arrange all of the recovered plane fragments in a warehouse for YOU to personally inspect?

Yes a reconstruction would be a good start, like they do with most aircraft investigations.

 

[Dog Town]

I suppose this is your crack law enforcement background talking.

I see, what you did there.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Seeing as how that's the first time I've ever posted that particular sequence of words in that particular order in this forum, and I am not currently, nor have I ever been an employee of Binney-Smith Corporation, that's going to be a tough sell to the mods.

But good luck anyway.

 

[ULTIMA1]

I see, what you did there.

Reported breach of rule 12

 

[Dog Town]

Reported breach of rule 12

You should try decaff, or at least break the pills in half.

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Yes a reconstruction would be a good start, like they do with most aircraft investigations.

And what exactly, in your estimation, gives you greater qualifications than the folks who did the initial investigation after the crash?

Are you a qualified aircraft crash investigator? A forensic specialist?

What makes you think they didn't reconstruct the wreckage post-crash? Are you suggesting the entire thing is suspect because YOU weren't invited?

 

[beachnut]

Reported breach of rule 12

Reported for breaking COMSEC rules!

Yes we do need the serial numbers from the parts to confirm it was AA77. Thats a normal part of a crime scene investigation, even you should know that.



So show me the coroner reports that show all the bodies from AA77 were in the Pentagon.

No serial numbers needed there were no parts that caused the crash. Sorry, but you can't produce the regulation that says so; so you failed.

You, an NSA analyst can't find the report? Oh? So you are not in the NSA? OK

 

[KreeL]

How would you know what is or is not a world record? How long should the FBI have spent working on the crime scene? Don't you people have any humility at all? You are someone who spends all his time on the internet making false claims. You don't know anything about criminal investigations. If the FBI is part of your giant conspiracy, why didn't they spend more time just for cosmetic purposes? Does your fake conspiracy EVER behave like a real one?

Only FIVE days? Let me guess, they picked up the stuff they trotted out after impact, but only after a couple cool photo ops of the painted stuff, the wheel, the engine part, and some pieces they could all carry by hand.

I wonder if this helps explain how the black box was found in Pennsylvania ONLY after the FBI took over the crime scene.'

Also probably explains why the FBI lost some black boxes from the WTC after a fireman showed them where they were.

Come to think of it, wasn't it the FBI that found the passport on the street after the demolition of the WTC and also located the rental car with the "How to Fly Commercial Airliners Made Easy" book in it --along with a Koran?

And why did the FBI allow bogus propaganda concerning the 'boxcutters as hijack weapons' --when they knew for months the phone calls to Ted Olsen were bogus?

Who was the director of the FBI in september of '01? What happened to him?

 

[beachnut]

Before you rush back to the CIT/PfffT clubhouse, mind telling me why you expect to find the serial numbers on the items you mention? First of all, good luck with finding a serial number on an unserialized part. As far as the engine serial number, the data plate on an airliner powerplant is typically located on the fancase, not the most survivable engine part particularly when it hits a limestone fortress at 580 mph. Also, dataplates are usually made from aluminum which melts at a relatively low temperature. As for the FDR, the only crash survivable part of this item is the Crash Survivable Memory Unit(CSMU). The FDR dataplate isnt located on it.

Can you also explain in your own words why FBI investigators would be bothered to make sure all the parts they found had serial numbers tracable to the aircraft in question? Bear in mind that you truthers are the only people mystified by what happened at the Pentagon. If American Airlines isn't screaming about what happened to their airplane and people or demanding serial number matches from the wreckage, then why are you?



A piece of twisted painted metal like this?

...or this

Oh and here is piece of debris(an emergency light charger) with a serial number visible.

And how many years of experience investigting high speed crashes do
you have? This is called an Argument from Incredulity.


Here is a photo of an airplane hitting a concrete wall at 500 mph. Enjoy!
F-4 versus Wall. Wall wins.

They can't answer the questions. They can't do physics, they lack logic, the spew delusions, they are 911Truth.

Flight 77 is all over the Pentagon and 911Truth ignores the FDR which proves it is flight 77 along with the passengers who boarded 77 are in the Pentagon dead. What total disrespect and failed logic.

 

[KreeL]

Yep. Looks like they drove one of those trucks past with the tailgate open and shoveled some debris out.

Must not have been a whole lot, because they picked it back up in less than a week.