Split Thread AA77 FBI Investigation [split from: AA77 FDR Data, Explained]

[ULTIMA1]

This topic mean nothing on the surface for 911, and it means nothing under the surface for 911; only in the paranoid minds who make up lies and fantasy like p4t.

Its just too bad we do not have any hard evidence like the following.

Actual photo or video of AA77 hitting the Pentagon.

Reports matching parts found to the plane.

 

[FineWine]

Its just too bad we do not have any hard evidence like the following.

Actual photo or video of AA77 hitting the Pentagon.

Reports matching parts found to the plane.

Yes, a real conspiracy would have surely faked such evidence.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Yes, a real conspiracy would have surely faked such evidence.

You mean like the official story conspiracy?

 

[ULTIMA1]

So where are the photos and videos i asked for, and the reports that the parts found match the plane?

Why are you disrespecting your fellow soldiers by not wanting to find the truth?

Your ignorance on FDR and lack of knowledge is showing as you say there are no parts showing 77 at the Pentagon; The FDR is the biggest and it is public record and many of us have the readouts from the NTSB. !

Maybe you can explain why the FBI only spent 5 days working the crime scene at the Pentagon after taking it over.

And yes i have the FDR data from the NTSB also, i was probably one of the first people to get it.

 

[beachnut]

The FBI studied the Pentagon evidence for months and years; Ultima1 is not a analyst for the NSA or he would not make up lies about the FBI which he knows are completely misleading tripe he is repeating from the Internet. He can't source his lie; he has no evidence. When is the last time many samples of DNA were identified in 5 days? When was FDR decoded in 5 days? The FDR decode took over 4 months to decode and it is part of the "crime scene". So Ultima1 is spamming unsupported tripe he finds on the Internet. He needs to get out and cut his grass or something; time for chores mr NSA. Stop spamming the FDR thread unless you can help.

Can you do FDR stuff?
The SSFDR accepts a serial bit stream data at a rate of 256 12-bit words per second.
The DFDAU provides a serial binary digital data steam to the SSFDR at a rate of 3072 bits/sec.
How many parameters are stored each second (Colunms A through ARP)
What is more important if there are errors which slow down the pipeline; storing all the data; or being on time?

 

[FineWine]

You mean like the official story conspiracy?

Fail.

 

[KreeL]

Something likely struck the Pentagon, but until they actually show a vid/pic, or produce the serials from the FDR or debris parts, the faithbased crowd won't believe the FDR data proves a flyover by either FL77 or something posing as such.

Thank you for your posts, Warren. Apparently you are much more based in truth than fiction.

 

[T.A.M.]

awesome. So Kreel, you are a CIT flyover fan. Wow talk about fringe of the fringe.

Good to know.

TAM

 

[KreeL]

awesome. So Kreel, you are a CIT flyover fan. Wow talk about fringe of the fringe.

Good to know.

TAM

It's as good as any since we have no proof that FL77 actually entered the Pentagon. Can you tell us the serial number off of the FDR? The recovered engine? How about the wheel? You can show us some painted pieces of twisted metal, but seriously there isn't the amount of wreckage one would expect to see if a commercial airliner indeed struck the Pentagon.

So yes, barring any sudden proof production otherwise from the faithbased crowd, a flyover could explain numerous problems with the OCT.

 

[beachnut]

It's as good as any since we have no proof that FL77 actually entered the Pentagon. Can you tell us the serial number off of the FDR? The recovered engine? How about the wheel? You can show us some painted pieces of twisted metal, but seriously there isn't the amount of wreckage one would expect to see if a commercial airliner indeed struck the Pentagon.

So yes, barring any sudden proof production otherwise from the faithbased crowd, a flyover could explain numerous problems with the OCT.

Failure to understand 911 is your problem. Completely free of evidence; you brought opinions to a fact fight.

There is literally tons of evidence proving your failed opinions to be delusions. Show proof 77 was not in the Pentagon.

Explain why a serial number for the FDR is needed?
The engines were 77’s can you prove they are not?

The wheels are 77’s. Can you prove they are not?

Correct amount of wreckage at the Pentagon for 77. Thousands of aircraft accident investigators agree with me; you could have gone to school to be an aircraft accident investigator; you wasted 7 years and post lies and false information instead.

DNA proves 77 impacted the Pentagon. Can you refute the DNA and list your evidence?

Explain why the serial number for the FDR is needed?
Explain what the wreckage it suppose to look like and why?
Explain why the engine is not from 77?
Explain why the wheel is not from 77?

Do you have FDR information? No?

Get on topic for the FDR. Stop regurgitating the failed lies and moronic delusions of CIT.

 

[BigAl]

It's as good as any since we have no proof that FL77 actually entered the Pentagon. Can you tell us the serial number off of the FDR? The recovered engine? How about the wheel? You can show us some painted pieces of twisted metal, but seriously there isn't the amount of wreckage one would expect to see if a commercial airliner indeed struck the Pentagon.

So yes, barring any sudden proof production otherwise from the faithbased crowd, a flyover could explain numerous problems with the OCT.

The evidence we have for Flt77 could fill a book and it fact it has;

Firefight: Inside the Battle to Save the Pentagon on 9/11
150 interviews with participants and eye-witnesses

 

[FineWine]

It's as good as any since we have no proof that FL77 actually entered the Pentagon. Can you tell us the serial number off of the FDR? The recovered engine? How about the wheel? You can show us some painted pieces of twisted metal, but seriously there isn't the amount of wreckage one would expect to see if a commercial airliner indeed struck the Pentagon.

So yes, barring any sudden proof production otherwise from the faithbased crowd, a flyover could explain numerous problems with the OCT.

What explains the FACT that nobody saw a flyover?

 

[apathoid]

Can you tell us the serial number off of the FDR? The recovered engine? How about the wheel?

Before you rush back to the CIT/PfffT clubhouse, mind telling me why you expect to find the serial numbers on the items you mention? First of all, good luck with finding a serial number on an unserialized part. As far as the engine serial number, the data plate on an airliner powerplant is typically located on the fancase, not the most survivable engine part particularly when it hits a limestone fortress at 580 mph. Also, dataplates are usually made from aluminum which melts at a relatively low temperature. As for the FDR, the only crash survivable part of this item is the Crash Survivable Memory Unit(CSMU). The FDR dataplate isnt located on it.

Can you also explain in your own words why FBI investigators would be bothered to make sure all the parts they found had serial numbers tracable to the aircraft in question? Bear in mind that you truthers are the only people mystified by what happened at the Pentagon. If American Airlines isn't screaming about what happened to their airplane and people or demanding serial number matches from the wreckage, then why are you?

You can show us some painted pieces of twisted metal..

A piece of twisted painted metal like this?

...or this

Oh and here is piece of debris(an emergency light charger) with a serial number visible.

but seriously there isn't the amount of wreckage one would expect to see if a commercial airliner indeed struck the Pentagon.

And how many years of experience investigting high speed crashes do
you have? This is called an Argument from Incredulity.


Here is a photo of an airplane hitting a concrete wall at 500 mph. Enjoy!
F-4 versus Wall. Wall wins.

 

[KreeL]

Does the plane make a hole?

 

[T.A.M.]

It's as good as any since we have no proof that FL77 actually entered the Pentagon. Can you tell us the serial number off of the FDR? The recovered engine? How about the wheel? You can show us some painted pieces of twisted metal, but seriously there isn't the amount of wreckage one would expect to see if a commercial airliner indeed struck the Pentagon.

So yes, barring any sudden proof production otherwise from the faithbased crowd, a flyover could explain numerous problems with the OCT.

oh, you mean you personally have not been invited to examine the plane parts first hand? Oh shame on them.

Oh you mean they didn't invite you personally to examine the DNA evidence, oh shame on them.

Oh you mean they didn't invite you personally to view all of the FBI accident/crash reports, oh shame on them.

SHAME ON THEM NOT ASKING A TWO BIT ****HEAD TO PERSONALLY INSPECT THEIR PROFESSIONAL WORK AND INVESTIGATIVE MATERIAL!!!

SHAME ON THEM!!!

 

[Dog Town]

Does the plane make a hole?

Why, yes it does, are you looking for a date?

 

[KreeL]

oh, you mean you personally have not been invited to examine the plane parts first hand? Oh shame on them.

Oh you mean they didn't invite you personally to examine the DNA evidence, oh shame on them.

Oh you mean they didn't invite you personally to view all of the FBI accident/crash reports, oh shame on them.

SHAME ON THEM NOT ASKING A TWO BIT ****HEAD TO PERSONALLY INSPECT THEIR PROFESSIONAL WORK AND INVESTIGATIVE MATERIAL!!!

SHAME ON THEM!!!

Yes indeed. Shame on them. They didn't even invite you because your faith is much greater than mine. Go figure that one out. JREF 101.

 

[BigAl]

Does the plane make a hole?

Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. Accepting reality is always advised.

 

[BigAl]

Before you rush back to the CIT/PfffT clubhouse, mind telling me why you expect to find the serial numbers on the items you mention? First of all, good luck with finding a serial number on an unserialized part. As far as the engine serial number, the data plate on an airliner powerplant is typically located on the fancase, not the most survivable engine part particularly when it hits a limestone fortress at 580 mph. Also, dataplates are usually made from aluminum which melts at a relatively low temperature. As for the FDR, the only crash survivable part of this item is the Crash Survivable Memory Unit(CSMU). The FDR dataplate isnt located on it.

Doesn't the turbine disk have a serial number "stamped" on it? I can think of several things I've read that would only be possible unless each disk was identifiable.

For the people in the cheap seats, the turbine disks are among the most survivable parts in an airplane crash.

 

[Baylor]

Does the plane make a hole?

Yup.