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WHATTTT????? Oprah... ***BLEEP***

http://factsnotfantasy.com Spread the word about this resource. Point them to the DEATH page...

Please remember that the folks working on that have it as a work in progress, so it's not fully populated or even formatted yet.

If anyone is in touch with the webmaster of that site (I don't see a contact on the page), point out the typo: "Blow are the vaccines containing aluminum, with the corresponding parts per million (ppm)". I would guess Blow should be "Below".

;)
 
It is my hope that by giving McCarthy such a high-profile platform that this moron will pull a Tom Cruise or a Ben Stein and completely wreck her credibility (McCarthy's, that is). Whenever people like her are given free-license to spew their nonsense, they usually over-reach and get hoisted by their own petard. With her stepping up her profile like this, it is only a matter of time before the medical community really starts to fight back - they'll have to. And then things will get ugly.

The bad thing about this situation is the damage she'll do in the meantime with her anti-vax nonsense.
 
I think Jenny McCarthy was on The Doctors, today. I only caught the very end, so I don't know what she said, nor what as said about her, but everyone was smiling, and I think a book about "healing" autism was vaguely promoted, so I suspect it was mostly on her side. I don't watch the show, I just noticed this in passing by a television that happened to be on.

I heard about this and even saw an ad for it earlier this week. Based upon what I saw in the ad, I think things got a bit nasty in the show.

Did anyone see it? Video anywhere?
 
Well, I don't think there is any imminent danger that vaccines could be banned, but by influencing large numbers of people in a democracy, there is a possibility that vaccines could be made optional and that enough people would opt out that preventable diseases could increase.

I see. Well, I don't know. I'm a bit skeptical of that happening, but we'll have to see over the course of time. But it's not as if it can't be fought back. I believe skepticism has grown over time and occupied a greater percentage of the world population (at least within the United States)
 
If anyone is in touch with the webmaster of that site (I don't see a contact on the page), point out the typo: "Blow are the vaccines containing aluminum, with the corresponding parts per million (ppm)". I would guess Blow should be "Below".

;)

Thank you. I am one of the folks that can do admin functions, and this is within my power. Good catch!
 
She looks good naked and is sometimes funny, so she MUST be an expert on health. I hate people.
 

Ugh. I just read the comments. The usual ridiculous claims that doctors DISCOURAGE nursing (mine only ever encouraged it, funny how reality has no meaning to the antivaxxers though). The vaccines must have caused meningitis because they overwhelmed the immune system (vaccines actually contain less antigens than the diseases and couldn't remotely overwhelm the immune system in any way). Doctors are sooo stupid that they don't know what causes autism (even though studies are pointing to genetics that lead to brain abnormalities and most doctors get that).

These people have their heads shoved so far into handley's and mccarthy's and alties' pooodoooodoooo misinformed ignorance that they can't ever assimilate actual facts.

I'm assuming the "doctors" were so ill prepared to deal with the actual antivax claims (that vaccines aren't tested, etc.) that they weren't able to fire back any stats or facts on vaccine testing or vaccine ingredients at all (I haven't had time to watch it).

So, this is yet another media platform conquered by ignorance. Yeah, good going guys. Let's just stick the antivaxxers up on a pedestal and worship them while we're at it.

If you're going to give them air time, then at least be ready to actually take them down!

But, as always in this arena, it is not the facts that matter, it's who has the biggest lies to bat down the other team with, and the team with no lies is going to just be so flabbergasted by the incredible lies that they will be left speechless and wondering what the heck they got hit with.

It's like watching the creationists set their pile of straw on fire when debating with scientists about evolution. They just light the fire and dance a victory dance.

Entertaining, but not at all helpful.
 
That guy in front of the audience, who claimed "they only looked at two vaccines", has some serious dissonance brewing in his head. :(
Look at how he is applauded in the comments section though. argh. Dissonance is better than reality. *grumbles*
 
Telling lies about such things should be illegal. I'm serious. This is speech that is harmful to the general public and will cause death and disease.
 
steelimage said:
Still it does not need much of it to function. At the moment do not remember the amount.

Here's one:

Energy consumption by the brain is 230-247 calories, based on 17
calories/gram and human brain sizes of 1,350-1,450 grams. During
periods of peak performance, adults increase that energy consumption
by up to 50%, according to psychology lecturer Mark Moss, of the
University of Northumbria.

While this may not seem an extraordinary amount of energy, the brain
may use 30% of a body's total energy, while being only 2?3% of total
body mass.

Moss cites the original 1986 work of Siebert, Gessner, and Klasser on
the energy supply of the central nervous system in his thesis. The
thesis, particularly the chapter 1 introduction, is a good and not
overly technical discussion of what we know about brain activity,
including descriptions of how PET scans are being used to monitor
glucose consumption in the brain. I've linked the first chapter:

University of Northumbria
"Oxygen Administration, Cognitive Performance and Physiological Responses," (Mark C. Moss, PhD Thesis 1999)
http://psychology.unn.ac.uk/mark/chapter1/chap1.htm
http://psychology.unn.ac.uk/mark/chapter1/chap1.htm
 
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I agree. Of course, parents should not allow children who only want to eat cake and candy to eat as they wish, but total elimination of sugar is taking things too far. And what about this "Gluten free and Casein free" thing? Are those actual allergies or more woo?

Celiac disease is when the body is unable to properly break down gluten. My wife suffers from it, so she has to watch what she eats. I also had a co-worker who suffered from it, and talking to hi is what helped discover why my wife was so sick.

Wiki link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celiac_disease
 
The Gluten free thing is in regards to her child's autism..... or to prevent her child from getting autism.
 
I respectfully suggest we find a spare brain that is not in use and mail it to her instead. :eek:
She doesn't know what to do with the one she has, what good will a second brain do?

She looks good naked and is sometimes funny, so she MUST be an expert on health. I hate people.
This is much pithier than the long-winded rants I've made on the subject. Nicely done.

She had credibility?
See above.

it is not the facts that matter, it's who has the biggest lies to bat down the other team with, and the team with no lies is going to just be so flabbergasted by the incredible lies that they will be left speechless and wondering what the heck they got hit with.
This is signature-worthy. And I've been looking for a good one.
 
Telling lies about such things should be illegal. I'm serious. This is speech that is harmful to the general public and will cause death and disease.
Well, in the US, it has to be a cause in the "clear and present" sense to be considered as not protected speech. Given the vagaries of epidemics, it is nearly impossible to imagine enough people citing a single instance of speech as being the proximate cause for their children's lack of vaccinations, and also having that group of people being key in an epidemic spreading, all the while imagining that there is not a lawyer somewhere in the country who couldn't at least claim that a "resonable person" would see the speech as a benign suggestion . . .
I almost (N.B., I said "almost") wish it were easier to curtail speech when I hear about things like this, but our intelligent speech simply must overwhelm the pro-disease speech.
We should be as loud as they are.
No, we should be louder and more obnoxious. To all those who argue that we shouldn't stoop to "their" level, I remind you all that the USA is a nation at "their" level, and is not likely to be coaxed onto the ladder of awareness by offering citations to peer-reviewed studies.
We need ads with naked hunks imploring housewives to vaccinate.
We need ads implying that not vaccinating your children will make you fat.
It's America (well, it's the USA in this case, but Canada is watching hockey right now), and America is not going to listen to a reasoned argument.
Yes, it's dirty and wrong, but loud and stupid is the only language that gets airtime.
 

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