Chastity vows

[MG1962]

How's this for masochism?

Though from the article

The country's dominant Catholic Church disapproves of the crucifixions and flagellations as a misrepresentation of the faith

So even the Church thinks they are crazy

 

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Only in the sense that they are tricked into thinking the whole religion is true. Such as wine turning into blood.

Only in the sense that you like to abuse language .

 

[I Ratant]

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As geni says, "sex" may not be; depends on how you define it. Sex that doesn't result in intercourse (Clinton's sin?) is, perhaps, a relatively minor sin of courting temptation; adultery (intercourse outside of marriage) is, and more so adultery in spite of vows of chastity (breach of solemn promise, and abuse of exalted position). It is wrong and sinful because the church says so, and they say so because tradition based upon Christ's example as described in the Bible deems it so.
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Clinton's "sin" is a crime in the UCMJ... "ANY penetration is sufficient for conviction".
Dick or stogie, machs nichts!
And ejaculation to prevent pregnancy, Onan was smote for that!

 

[I Ratant]

How's this for masochism?

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And another..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_Ashura

 

[I Ratant]

Speaking as an ex-Catholic, I don't need chastity vows. Unfortunately.

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Yeah, there's other cultural "features" that include chastity or celibacy, desired or not! Sob!

 

[I Ratant]

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But as far as "waste of potential", I also understand that the Church does not disapprove of the rhythm method, which also a "waste of potential" - well, most of the time anyway . So it seems to me that one method of sexual relief (masturbation) is not allowable and another (intercourse while a woman is not fertile) is.
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Norm

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I'd heard that those Catholics that used the rhythm method had a special term for the results.... parents...!
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I'm the middle child with siblings put-near 18 months older and younger.
I did find a condom when snooping thru my parent's chest-of-drawers, many a year ago!
I bet those are more reliable than the rhythm method.

 

[qayak]

I did find a condom when snooping thru my parent's chest-of-drawers, many a year ago!
I bet those are more reliable than the rhythm method.

More reliable for birth control, unfortunately condoms cause AIDS or didn't you get that memo from the church?

 

[Puppycow]

Though from the article

The country's dominant Catholic Church disapproves of the crucifixions and flagellations as a misrepresentation of the faith

So even the Church thinks they are crazy

I have to admit that I didn't read that far down.
But a little further down, I came across this:

Some foreigners have previously been crucified including a Belgian nun and a Japanese man, who later allowed footage of his ordeal to be used in a pornographic film. No one has ever died during the rituals.

 

[Soapy Sam]

While modern dictionaries tend to conflate the words " celibate" and "chaste", we should remember that the original meanings were distinct. A monk (though not all priests, I'm told) would take vows including Obedience, Poverty, Chastity (no sex) and Celibacy (no marriage). I suppose in societies where younger sons often joined the priesthood, this avoided embarassing conflicts of interest and slowed the breeding of impoverished gentry.
Oddly, nuns were allowed to marry- but they all married the same person. Wierd.
But that's the wacky world of religion.

 

[I Ratant]

More reliable for birth control, unfortunately condoms cause AIDS or didn't you get that memo from the church?

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This was long before AIDS.
One could purchase condoms in the rest rooms in the local service stations.
"For the prevention of disease".

 

[qayak]

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This was long before AIDS.
One could purchase condoms in the rest rooms in the local service stations.
"For the prevention of disease".

That's probably what caused AIDS.

 

[NobbyNobbs]

I don't have a cite for this, but I was told that priests were allowed to marry at one time. Then the church realized that every time a priest died, he'd leave his money, land, and belongings to his wife and kids. By not allowing them to marry, the church caused them to leave their inheritance to the church.

I don't know how much truth is in this though.

 

[Andronicus]

I don't have a cite for this, but I was told that priests were allowed to marry at one time. Then the church realized that every time a priest died, he'd leave his money, land, and belongings to his wife and kids. By not allowing them to marry, the church caused them to leave their inheritance to the church.

I don't know how much truth is in this though.

Generally Latin Rite priests cannot be married when ordinated (they can be widows) or after. Eastern Rite (using the term generally for the 10% of practicing non-Latin Rite catholics, formerlly referred to as Uniates) priests can be married when ordinated but can't marry (or marry again) later. In the Latin Rite, more and more regulations were issued from 700 AD until 1500 AD until priests being married was finally barred. See Catholic Encyclopedia: Celibacy of Priests, 1917. (Obviously pro-Catholic, but probably accurate enough especially as to dates.)

Latin Rite priests still generally cannot be married (d'uh), but the Apostolic See (the Pope or his designee) may allow a priest to be married. Code of Canon Law 1042, 1047. As an example of a recent exception, some Anglican priests converting to Catholicism have been ordinated priests despite being married. See this article for a discussion and example.

I don't think inheritance was the Church's biggest issue with priestly marriage as most priests from propertied families were the younger sons raised for the priesthood in part to have the older sons maintain a larger estate (though I wouldn't doubt exceptions). Some reasons I've heard why a priest shouldn't marry include:
symbolically the priest represents Jesus therefor should be married only to the Church;
a married priest might not be able to "pick up and go" when required because of family concerns;
the local diocese supports its priests, and can't afford to support a priest and his family;
a priest shouldn't have to choose between obeying his wife and his bishop;
celibacy is a sacrifice which the community understands and profits by;
celibacy is a discipline which helps support other catholic disciplines (like fasting when appropriate);
and historically the Church didn't want to create dynastic lines of priests.

(Whatever my beliefs about the Roman Catholic Church; some of the above concerns are practical and logical.)

 

[I Ratant]

the local diocese supports its priests, and can't afford to support a priest and his family;

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There's a congregation locally whose preacher has a white Rolls Royce!
PASTOR 9 as the vanity! plate.
I wonder how many members of the congregation have anything close to the RR in value, or even any 20 of them all together!
Getting rich off the congregation is not uncommon in some religions.
That's one of the driving forces in religion.
Perks!