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The Heiwa Challenge

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phunk said:
So you're not looking for something similar to WTC 1 & 2?
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A structure is always a structure. That's what structural analysis is all about. Structual damage analysis is about damaged structures.

If you believe that WTC 1 differs from any other structures in universe, you have not understood much!

WTC 1 is not a unique structure in the universe! It is just like pizza boxes, &c. This one off one way Crush down once in the universe is just Hollywood stuff.

But I appreciate your interest in this thread - The Heiwa Challenge. We in old Europe solved it a long time ago. It seems the knowledge got lost in the Atlantic? So I just remind you ... over there!
 
Heiwa said:
Post #34 is personal encouragement to one poster. #117 is refering to another thread. No prize in The Heiwa Challenge. Just honour.
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But if somebody did beat your stupid challenge, he would simultaneously disprove your stupid axiom, and thus be owed a million dollars. So where is the money?
 
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Heiwa said:
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If you believe that WTC 1 differs from any other structures in universe, you have not understood much!

WTC 1 is not a unique structure in the universe! It is just like pizza boxes, &c. This one off one way Crush down once in the universe is just Hollywood stuff.
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More delusions from our delusion making pizza-box engineer. The challenge is dumb, the WTC towers falling on 911 prove Heiwa's ideas are crazy and there is no money.



Heiwa said:
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WTC 1 is not a unique structure ... It is just like pizza boxes,
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http://www.skyscraper.org/TALLEST_TOWERS/t_wtc.htm an innovative structural model: a rigid "hollow tube" of closely spaced steel columns with floor trusses extended across to a central core. The columns, finished with a silver-colored aluminum alloy, were 18 3/4" wide and set only 22" apart, making the towers appear from afar to have no windows at all.
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Oh?

http://www.skyscraper.org/TALLEST_TOWERS/t_wtc.htm
Also unique to the engineering design were its core and elevator system. The twin towers were the first supertall buildings designed without any masonry. Worried that the intense air pressure created by the buildingsâ high speed elevators might buckle conventional shafts, engineers designed a solution using a drywall system fixed to the reinforced steel core. For the elevators, to serve 110 stories with a traditional configuration would have required half the area of the lower stories be used for shaftways. Otis Elevators developed an express and local system, whereby passengers would change at "sky lobbies" on the 44th and 78th floors, halving the number of shaftways.
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what?
 
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dtugg said:
But if somebody did beat your stupid challenge, he would simultaneously disprove your stupid axiom, and thus be owed a million dollars.
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Go for the stupid money, if you are stupid. But you have to beat The Heiwa Challenge and get the honours before that.
 
Heiwa, Do you believe that the lead engineer for WTC, Leslie Robertson, is deluded when he tells us that he agrees with NIST?
 
Heiwa said:
The WTC 1 C and A parts will behave exactly like pizza boxes, lemons, sponges, when they impact/collide.
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That doesn't address the issue of scale. Think about it this way: If I throw a bullet at a watermelon, what happens? Now what happens when I fire a bullet at the same melon? Remember, the only difference in my example is scale.

ETA: also, here is visual evidence that I can, in fact, throw a bullet at a watermelon. (Correct scale)
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Lennart Hyland said:
Heiwa, Do you believe that the lead engineer for WTC, Leslie Robertson, is deluded when he tells us that he agrees with NIST?
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What would have happened to Leslie had he made a prototpe of the WTC using pizza boxes? Oh right, he would have been laughed out of a career and ended up working on boat accidents.
 
Heiwa said:
I am definietely not working at a zoo or cirkus. Topic is The Heiwa Challenge!
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In other words, you realize that the tower of mice does not collapse, but the tower of elephants does. I think a circus would hire you.
 
TheRedWorm said:
That doesn't address the issue of scale. Think about it this way: If I throw a bullet at a watermelon, what happens? Now what happens when I fire a bullet at the same melon? Remember, the only difference in my example is scale.

ETA: also, here is visual evidence that I can, in fact, throw a bullet at a watermelon. (Correct scale)
[qimg]http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/6537/bulletso.jpg[/qimg]
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The Heiwa Challenge is not about scale but whether a structural one-way crush down is possible in any size. It seems nobody can produce a structure say 1, 2 or 5 meters tall that will one-way crush down, and I conclude the same applies to 100, 200 and 500 meters tall structures. Conclusion: WTC 1 destruction was not a one-way crush down.
 
Heiwa said:
The Heiwa Challenge is not about scale but whether a structural one-way crush down is possible in any size. It seems nobody can produce a structure say 1, 2 or 5 meters tall that will one-way crush down, and I conclude the same applies to 100, 200 and 500 meters tall structures. Conclusion: WTC 1 destruction was not a one-way crush down.
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What do you mean?

Was the gravity collapse of the WTC a one-way crush down?

The WTC did collapse on 911 due to impacts and fires; this is a fact. Do you mean this can't happen?

What is your point in simple terms?

Does the gravity collapse of the WTC towers meet your challenge since they were due to impacts and fires; no explosives, no thermite?
 
Heiwa said:
The Heiwa Challenge is not about scale but whether a structural one-way crush down is possible in any size. It seems nobody can produce a structure say 1, 2 or 5 meters tall that will one-way crush down, and I conclude the same applies to 100, 200 and 500 meters tall structures. Conclusion: WTC 1 destruction was not a one-way crush down.
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You are a joke; the laughing stock of this forum. Assuming that you are an engineer, you are the most incompetent engineer in the world. An engineer that doesn't realize that scale matters? That compares huge skyscrapers to pizza boxes, sponges, and lemons? Really?
 


I'd like my million dollars, please. Let me know when you're ready to send the cashier's check and I'll provide an address. Feel free to take the postage and insurance out of the total sum.
 
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I'd like my million dollars, please. Let me know when you're ready to send the cashier's check and I'll provide an address. Feel free to take the postage and insurance out of the total sum.
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Sorry, Balzac/Vitry is a controlled demolition with part C 6 floors, then three floors that are destroyed, and then part A 6 floors below, or so. And the result was still not a complete crush of part A. Has been pointed out many times.

Pls, try again. Describe the structure where C can crush down A, etc, after a drop.
 
Heiwa said:
Sorry, Balzac/Vitry is a controlled demolition with part C 6 floors, then three floors that are destroyed, and then part A 6 floors below, or so.
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I see you've learned to count to six since the first time you saw the video. It's nice to know you're capable of some form of progress.

Dave
 
Heiwa said:
Sorry, Balzac/Vitry is a controlled demolition with part C 6 floors, then three floors that are destroyed, and then part A 6 floors below, or so. And the result was still not a complete crush of part A. Has been pointed out many times.

Pls, try again. Describe the structure where C can crush down A, etc, after a drop.
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The WTC was not a complete crush either.

That was a drop. He wins.

You are a fraud.

I presented the WTC on 911 as the full scale model; I won! You can't prove it was not a gravity collapse. You lost; I want the money now!

I wonder if that lawyer in France wants to sue you for 50 percent of the money we won?

You don't have the money; you have delusions.
 
beachnut said:
The WTC was not a complete crush either.

That was a drop. He wins.

You are a fraud.

I presented the WTC on 911 as the full scale model; I won! You can't prove it was not a gravity collapse. You lost; I want the money now!

I wonder if that lawyer in France wants to sue you for 50 percent of the money we won?

You don't have the money; you have delusions.
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YOU brought WTC 1 down? Bad boy! You dropped part C on part A? Very naughty. What does your mother say about THAT?
Now, just repeat the performance and you win The Heiwa Challenge!
 
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