NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

[lapman]

Thats right, you attacked me, so what does that mean?

Today, 12:52 PM #1193
UNLoVedRebel

Only in your simple, closed mind.



I am still waiting for any beleivers to post the FBI and NTSB crime scene reports. Without these the beleivers are just spreding lies when they say they know what happened.

Except that the NTSB does not do criminal investigations. They investigate accidents and that didn't happen on 9/11.

 

[Mr.Herbert]

Hey Liar...when are you going to address my post? ........

Roger in September, at Above Top Secret, you are quoted as saying that you read the classified version of a Critic. You confirmed it about 5 minutes ago.

Back in September you stated that the critic states that it was flight 93.

Do you know what a CRITIC is?

The NSA has one in thier archives that states Flight 93 was shot down.

Now you are stating that the critic does not give the specific flight number.

You HAVE been caught lying. If you fail to acknowledge this, you are a lot worse off than I suspected.

 

[The Big Dog]

The document does not have to be reviewed by any department. NSA has its own office that takes care of declassifing a document, specially one that they have produced.

Oh really? Tell you what, champ, call up NSA and ask them why they sent YOUR freaking FOIA and whatever documents are responsive to other Government Departments and that is what the hold up is.

Sheesh, it is like dealing with a bratty 14 year old kid.

 

[Gavron]

I never stated Flight 93 was shot down. I have stated that the NSA document shows a plane being intercepted that could only be Flight 93 or Flight 2989 confuded as Flight 93.

What about your quote a couple of pages back where you stated the NSA has documentation that flight 93 was shot down?

Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

I think 16.5 hit the nail right on the head...

 

[Baylor]

No it gives some types of aircraft, but for flight numbers we will have to wait to see what the unclassified version states.

The NSA has one in thier archives that states Flight 93 was shot down.

Now you are stating that the critic does not give the specific flight number.

 

[TJM]

Sheesh, it is like dealing with a bratty 14 year old kid.

There's probably a very logical explanation for that....

 

[No Such Agency]

How many times must i answer the questions untill you be mature enough to admit i have answered them?

I don't know why I even bother responding, you did not answer any of the questions I posed to you On Page 20.

I will repost them here, to save you time. Answer these questions and the question of your authenticity will forever be put to rest. Refuse to answer them or outright ignore them, and the question of your authenticity will still be put to rest. Last chance.

1. What physical color is are most "gray" phones? (Hint: they aren't gray) (1 point)
2. What is the full text of the banner displayed at the middle of your screen at all times during the work day? (Hint: it's not "Top Secret") (5 points)
3. How many digits are there in a secure telephone number? (Hint: it's not 4 and there is only 1 answer to this question) (2 points)
4. What is your secure telephone number? (5 points)
5. Name at least 2 compartments an agency employee is read in to on their first day on the job. (5 points)

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As for this:

I do work at NSA if you would have been at the flagpole like you stated you were going to be you would know this.

Why are you not wanting to admit that i have answered your questions?

I have read the document (which you can read too if you go to the NSA Critic archive and look it up). I have filed a FOIA request to get an unclassified version to post on the internet.

You have made specific statements in this thread that you do not know which airplane the document talks about. If you had access to the document as you claim that you do, then you would know the answer to that question. It is thusly clear you do not have access to the document, since you are unable to answer that rather simple question.

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For everyone else:
A thought just occurred to me. I think my problem is U1 is only reading the first sentence of my posts.... Maybe if I post one line at a time like he does he'll be able to process all of the information...?

 

[beachnut]

... I have stated that the NSA document shows a plane being intercepted that could only be Flight 93 or Flight 2989 confuded as Flight 93.

Standby we have to move the goalposts back to your real OP! LOL, confuded; is that a new secret term?

Here is a letter from the NSA FOIA office that they have the NSA "Critic" that i asked for that states that Flight 93 was intercepted. ...

You said Flight 93 was intercepted. Where is the paper again?

 

[Jackanory]

confuded; is that a new secret term?

lollololololol. Elma Fudd is confuded

 

[twinstead]

lollololololol. Elma Fudd is confuded

Shhhhhhh. Be verwy, verwy, qwiet....

 

[Jackanory]

Shhhhhhh. Be verwy, verwy, qwiet....

lol. I could actually hear you saying it

 

[ihaunter]

Well if you knew anything about the declassification process you would know that sometimes information can be removed.

Thats why i am waiting for the declassified version.

I see we already have the excuse for when the document in question doesn't say what you claim it says.

Could you please make up your mind as to whether the information in this document is classified or not. It seems to change depending on who you are replying to.

I would also like to see a response to Mr. Herbert, who shows you did indeed say that the critic states 93 was shot down.

 

[jaydeehess]

I see we already have the excuse for when the document in question doesn't say what you claim it says.

Could you please make up your mind as to whether the information in this document is classified or not. It seems to change depending on who you are replying to.

I would also like to see a response to Mr. Herbert, who shows you did indeed say that the critic states 93 was shot down.

In fact he first said that 93 was shot down, then only that it was intercepted, then it bacame maybe 93 or 1989, and now information may be redacted and it won't state which aircraft was intercepted.

So, in short he went from saying that flight 93 was intercepted and shot down (going so far as to imply that it was gunned), to now saying that all the Critic will say is that an intercept was made.

Next step, the Critic will state that an intercept was launched BUT it will have redacted, any reference to a successful intercept much less a shootdown. U1 will claim victory and claim that any redacted parts contain the information about a successful intercept and/or shootdown. Once again emplying that TM methodology of claiming that lack of evidence IS evidence.

 

[beachnut]

... all the Critic will say is that an intercept was made.
...

It could be the Korean Air Aircraft, the pilot who screwed up and squawk hijack. I am going to get the tractor out to help move the goalposts.

 

[jaydeehess]

KAL is one airline I will never use.

Of course we recall KAL 007 getting shot down by the Soviets. I have first hand experience illustrating a KAL flight that thought they were several hundred miles from their actual location. During a HF blackout flights going over the weather station I worked at in the artic would call in on VHF and we would relay their location via LF RTTY.

A KAL flight called us one of those times except they were using the name of a weather station several hundred miles north and east of our station. There is no way that the other station would ever hear them so after they called several times we answered and tried explaining that they were in contact with us, not the other station. The radio operator on the aircraft never did 'get it' and continued on to ask us to relay his position over Eureka (if you have an atlas that oes far enough north , Euraka is on the northern half of Ellesmere Island)when in fact he was over Mould Bay.(on a bay on the south coast of Prince Patrick Island - no longer manned)

On 9/11 we have another example when that flight inexplicably sqawks 'hijack'.

 

[Reheat]

KAL is one airline I will never use.

KAL has had several major shakeups. They are not the airline now they used to be. They almost lost their authorization to fly in the US in the early 90's. To fix that they started hiring native English speaking pilots. Then came 007, which was mainly the result of their lack of CRM. Tried to fix the management problem, but that obviously didn't work. After their Guam accident, they had to either fix their problem or go out of business. By that point in time even Koreans were refusing to fly with them.

They hired an American Safety type person and made him an executive. From that point they implemented rigid CRM procedures and I think maybe they've fixed their age old problem.

I've flown with them several times in the last few years and their service, food, and ticket prices are quite good.

IMHO, the ones to definitely avoid are those using former Soviet Union type equipment. Those are an accident waiting to happen.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Except that the NTSB does not do criminal investigations. They investigate accidents and that didn't happen on 9/11.

By law in the case an aircraft crash is considered a crime the FBI becomes the lead investigating agency with technical assistance from the NTSB.

The NTSB does investigations into aircraft crashes and does reports on the crash scene and the causes. Where are the NTSB official reports on the 4 crash scenes? Where are the official investigations into the hijackings that happened that day?

 

[ULTIMA1]

You HAVE been caught lying.

No i have not been caught lying (you have been caught not knowing anythign about what happened on 9/11).

If you read the internet version of the whats in the NSA critic it states that Flight 93 was intercepted. Thats the version i ahve to go by since i cannot state exactly whats in the actual NSA critic until the unclassified version has been released.

 

[dtugg]

Hey kiddo, how about you address the fact that you are a proven liar. You claimed at ATS that the NSA has documents which you had seen showing UA93 was shot down. Now you are saying that it a was an unspecified plane that was intercepted. I dare you to address this, liar.

 

[ULTIMA1]

Oh really? Tell you what, champ, call up NSA and ask them why they sent YOUR freaking FOIA and whatever documents are responsive to other Government Departments and that is what the hold up is.

They may be doing it out of being polite but they do not have to.