Merged bullet hole in the windshield of JFK's limo/ You might be...

[TK0001]

roundhead,

Just to get this straight, you believe the driver shot Kennedy....and someone else fired a shot through the windshield? I'm also assuming you believe there was at least one shot from behind....so were there three shooters total?

 

[RoboTimbo]

Are we finished with this thread? Roundhead, you didn't appear to know that the windshield was examined by the Warren Commission and it showed a wagon wheel crack pattern, not a hole.

I would further mention that Evalea Glanges is not on the official witness list as testifying before the Warren Commission.

 

[Donal]

So, the others wouldn't know the sound of a .45 caliber pistol firing 10 feet away from them (a .45 does NOT sound like a fire cracker)? They wouldn't notice Kennedy's face not being there (which would have been the result if your theory were true)? They wouldn't see the smoke?

You obviously have no idea how a gun works.

 

[RoboTimbo]

So, the others wouldn't know the sound of a .45 caliber pistol firing 10 feet away from them (a .45 does NOT sound like a fire cracker)? They wouldn't notice Kennedy's face not being there (which would have been the result if your theory were true)? They wouldn't see the smoke?

You obviously have no idea how a gun works.

That was my next tack of discussion but I thought it might go better in another thread. How about, where did the spent casing go?

 

[Drudgewire]

How about, where did the spent casing go?

For that matter, you should be able to see it exiting the gun in the footage.

Of course, that would require seeing a gun and all...

 

[RoboTimbo]

For that matter, you should be able to see it exiting the gun in the footage.

Of course, that would require seeing a gun and all...

It's beyond me why they have to insist on it being a .45. That could only come from someone who has never fired a .45. And to think, I hardly ever check out what's going on in CT. JFK CT's are easy.

 

[Drudgewire]

It's beyond me why they have to insist on it being a .45.

Well, because a 1911 is what a Secret Service agent would be likely be carrying in that situation. And of course the driver would be following proper protocol.

Except for the whole "don't murder the guy you're assigned to protect" thing.

 

[Donal]

We all know the proper pistol for government sanctioned covert assassinations is the Walter PPK.

 

[RoboTimbo]

If you're non-government sanctioned, you have to settle for a Mannlicher-Carcano. Damnably difficult to conceal.

 

[I Ratant]

If you're non-government sanctioned, you have to settle for a Mannlicher-Carcano. Damnably difficult to conceal.

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Use the bag..

 

[RoboTimbo]

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Use the bag..

Haven't you heard? Curtain rods were in the bag. It's an eternal mystery how the rifle got into the building. Or how Oswald shot JFK with a curtain rod.

 

[I Ratant]

Altgens #5..
JFK has been shot thru the back.
The head shot is coming.
The Secret Service Cadillac is right on the bumper of the Lincoln.
The two cycle cops at the left rear of the Lincoln at looking at JFK.. (and not at the Grassy Knoll, as another wildeyed CTer "proves").
The cycle cop to the right of the Lincoln is looking back at JFK.
Two agents on the right side of the Cadillac are looking to the rear, from where they heard the shots come from. (2 at that time.)
For the Lincoln to have slowed down and stopped for its driver to shoot JFK, ALL the vehicles following would have to stop as that stop accordioned back thru the motorcade.
Didn't happen.

 

[I Ratant]

The limosine speed, Zapruder film frames 289 thru 311.
The position of Mary Moorman in the infield related to the motion of the limosine as it passed..
The difference in Moorman's position frame-to-frame is constant.
Had the limosine slowed down, her position would not be constant, and begin to overlap and merge had the car stopped.
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And the last three film frames of the sequence...
Moorman is to the left of Jean Hill, who claims that at THAT time, she was standing in the middle of Elm Street, yelling at Jackie. (see Jack White's "Zapruder film hoax" video.)

 

[RoboTimbo]

To get back on this thread's topic, TK's pic in post #7 is the picture of the actual windshield in the actual limo showing the wagon wheel cracking. It is CE (Commission Exhibit) #350 in Volume 16 of the Warren Commission hearings. You'll have to scroll down to CE#350.

No hole.

 

[TK0001]

To get back on this thread's topic, TK's pic in post #7 is the picture of the actual windshield in the actual limo showing the wagon wheel cracking. It is CE (Commission Exhibit) #350 in Volume 16 of the Warren Commission hearings. You'll have to scroll down to CE#350.

No hole.

Here's a closer close up:

 

[TK0001]

roundhead,

Just to get this straight, you believe the driver shot Kennedy....and someone else fired a shot through the windshield? I'm also assuming you believe there was at least one shot from behind....so were there three shooters total?

Bump.

Roundhead, could you please clarify this?

 

[CurtC]

He's just asking questions, man!

 

[roundhead]

Bump.

Roundhead, could you please clarify this?

I dont know how many shooters there were, two certainly(the driver) and the shot which he took in the adam's apple from the front(another shooter independant of the driver) So at least two, perhaps more.My opinion is 3 or more.

 

[RoboTimbo]

I dont know how many shooters there were, two certainly(the driver) and the shot which he took in the adam's apple from the front(another shooter independant of the driver) So at least two, perhaps more.My opinion is 3 or more.

In your favor, there is no requirement to provide evidence to support an opinion.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Reality devoid of emotional opinion indicates that there was only one shooter, Lee Harvey Oswald. He fired three shots from a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository. One shot missed.

Warren Commission conclusions

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