25 years ago this day.

[CFLarsen]

Claus, I don't see why you're bringing in information about the death penalty at this point. We were discussing Mumia's lawyer, and Mumia's desires regarding his representation.

I don't see the problem in bringing up information about the death penalty in a discussion about Mumia.

But he did get the lawyer he wanted.

And then, dismissed him, only to get him back, against his will.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I don't see the problem in bringing up information about the death penalty in a discussion about Mumia...

The discussion is on Mumia's claim of a conspiracy (to frame him); not the ethics of the death penalty in general, or in regards to his case.

 

[Beleth]

[Insult deleted. -Beleth]

So you don't have evidence of your claim that 1 out of 9 people on Death Row are innocent, then?

Do you understand that it is completely irrelevant to the point I am making?

Since you absolutely refuse to say what your point is, I cannot determine what is relevant to your point and what isn't.

I am not contesting the legality, I am saying that Mumia didn't get the lawyer he wanted.

Do you understand this, yes or no?

As I answered before (perhaps you missed it):

I know that is what you are saying.
What I don't know is why you are saying it.

So I will ask again:
Why are you making a claim that is not only a half-truth, but wholly unimportant even if it were fully true?

[Insult deleted. -Beleth] Any defendant or prosecutor [in the Danish court system] can appeal to a higher court (usually once, unless it is a pricipal case), where the verdict can either be confirmed or overturned.

Once recent case was where two Palestinian brothers were found guilty of murder and subsequently deported. The Supreme Court overturned the latter verdict.

I stand corrected. The Danish court system, as you say, is error-prone... just like the American court system.

 

[CFLarsen]

You're a waste of time.

 

[Beleth]

You're a waste of time.

I'm parroting your modus operandi, Claus.

If you see a "fool" and a "waste of time" when I hold up a mirror to you, perhaps you should do some thinking about why that is.

 

[kookbreaker]

Bumping this thread as it seems Mumia's Supreme Court Appeal has been denied. Now there's just the resentencing.

ETA: This should probably be moved to the general CT forum.

 

[Pinch]

Bumping this thread as it seems Mumia's Supreme Court Appeal has been denied. Now there's just the resentencing.

As much as I hope and would love to see the death penalty in his re-sentencing, somehow I don't think that will happen and he'll spend the rest of his days in the relative comfort of a prison, corresponding with the European hoi polli, writing children's books and poems and accepting phone calls from Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn.

 

[kookbreaker]

As much as I hope and would love to see the death penalty in his re-sentencing, somehow I don't think that will happen and he'll spend the rest of his days in the relative comfort of a prison, corresponding with the European hoi polli, writing children's books and poems and accepting phone calls from Susan Sarandon and Sean Penn.

It will be interesting to see. Right now this city is not in the mood to let cop killers linger in prison given that we have lost several policemen this year. But the sentencing might be delayed and memories are short.

 

[Caustic Logic]

The only time I'd ever heard the name Abdul Mumia Jabal was in a line in a Michael Frante song.

Now I know what it's all about....the rhyme.

Man that was mangled. Mumia Abu Jamal, Michael Franti, of Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy and Spearhead. Good stuff, if a bit preachy and self-righteous, I consider myself a fan.

As for Mumia, I'm from that school where we gravitate towards revolutionary voices. But this case doesn't feel right, even being ignorant of the details. He's far too ambiguous to be a viable hero-type, and I suspect a massive mistake in latching onto him, at best, and some kind of disinfo/discredit operation at worst. How many unfairly tasered protesters had just finished taunting cops about locking up the Messiah Mumia? It's stupid to embrace every burning bridge you come across.

Thanks for the thread, however the later pages have gone...