arthwollipot
Limerick Purist
Old Bob was the one who tried to claim that using the term "abo" was not racist. But we're getting off topic.
*realises the irony of what he just said given my previous post*
Gympie and ancient history
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*realises the irony of what he just said given my previous post*
Well glad to see you people have worked out that I'm only a little bit ignorant and don't like poofters. Guess we all have our likes and dislikes. One thing I'm not is racist. The aborigine had a great way of stopping infection, they packed wounds with cobweb. Cobweb has anti biotic properties handy to know. The big Gigi spider web is strong enough to pull the hat off a rider. Cattle men would rap the web around there hats till they had enough to make a cracker for whips. Grandpa Simpson couldn't meander this good. As for a earlier post on population numbers for Australia, I think we are full as we are governed by water.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Try and not generalise too much Bob. Not everyone here disagrees with everything you say.
I reckon part of the problem is that you speak here in the language you use at home and amongst friends, but I don't think we can get away with that here. You and I could sit down and chat over a few beers and I wouldn't blink an eye at the things you say.
I understand your lingo, and whether it annoys the city folks or not, at least it allows me to judge your thoughts, rather than your words. If phrases like "That abo bloke in the tutu looks like a bit of a poof, eh?" were declared illegal, my whole town, the whole of Gympie, and most of the non-urbanised population of Australia would have to be locked up. We most certainly aren't all poofter-bashing racists out here. We just talk funny.
Speaking of which, the fact is that we don't actually talk funny. What's happened is that the meanings of the words we use have changed, or rather, they've been stolen. Why can't I tell anyone that I had a gay time at the beach anymore? There's no way that wouldn't confuse everyone. Are Bob and I responsible for the confusion? Nup.
No you aren't, and I don't think you hate homos either, as long as they don't keep getting in our face all the time. Anyway, you can hate whoever you want, as long as you don't go around poking the people that you hate in the eye and stuff like that. I know you would never do these things.
Wow. I vaguely remembered hearing something about aborigines using spider webs for medicinal purposes. Your post sent me off searching the internet and I found this article by a bug expert:
60 Minutes presents a live interview with the bug man, Ruud Kleinpaste
Here's an excerpt from the article:
No myths there Bob. All backed up with solid science. Good stuff
ETA: I just re-read this post, and I swear the quote of Mr Kleinpaste could have been lifted straight from an Old Bob post. It isn't, but it says something about something, I think. umm . . . back to the programme . . .
Too right. I don't know if we're quite full yet, but there doesn't seem much doubt that water is the limiting factor.
What do you reckon about a bloody great pipe from the Ord River to supply Sydney and Melbourne? I can't see why not, when you look at the pipelines they build to pump gas and oil around the place.
Desalination plants might be the go, but they're pretty expensive to run, I believe.
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Maybe I shouldn't have called him racist, just said he sprouts racist (and homophobic) crap.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
That happens to me all the time. I addressed a few thoughts about this to Bob, but I thought of something a bit ironic to add to them.
I have a number of Koori friends, and I had heaps more when I was in the Army. I can't tell you their nicknames though, because they're all racist terms and I'd get sent to the naughty corner. Of course the guys themselves don't see it that way, and love their white mates.
Well, I think it ironic anyway. YMMV
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
I hope we're about in the middle ground then. He does come across that way sometimes.
I'd like to note that Bob's posts are showing that he listens to you though. Now if you could just get me to do the same
Anyway, you're allowed to use labels like racist if it's appropriate to your meaning, and I'd never call you on it.
If you called me a racist because I called someone an Abo, then I'd apologise to you, not for my point of view, which is not racist at all, but for using a word you find offensive. Then we'd move on, having maybe both learnt something.
Cheers,
Dave
Wise words Dave, political correct stuff I'm just not interested. You are right about interpretations on meanings,but we didn't ask for change. Going back to Gympie ( the origins of the name can irritate) new test drilling shows enough gold to fill Fort Knox and the flooded section of the mine is not river water as first thought. The area near is old volcanic so it would not surprise me if gravel filled lava tubes were feeding underground water.
Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
Before we whizz past it again . . .
The origin of Gympie's name
Wikipedia said:
The horrid critter itself
I wonder why they didn't call Gympie Dendrocnidemoroidesville? That would have sounded classy.
Heres a better picture of it. Don't touch the screen or your fingers will drop off, probably.
Dendrocnide moroides
I note that this tree is also found in Indonesia and the Moluccas. That means it might have found it's way to Australia via the same route as the dingo. Hmm.
I'll get onto the gold drilling stuff in a minnie.
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Akhenaten
Heretic Pharaoh
HawaiiBigSis
List Management
Yet more proof to support Arthwollipot's claim that Australian fauna are out to kill humans...
HawaiiBigSis
List Management
Now see, I didn't know the platypus was poisonous too. There aren't that many poisonous mammals, are there? That's just an unusual animal all-round.
But that tree has such yummy looking fruit. Is the fruit edible?
All this talk of things that bite is chasing the tourist away, now to stop the sting of bull ant, jumper ants,green ants, inch men(they have wire cutters on the front and a big sting at the other end)blue bottle wasp and all the paper wasps and hornets pull up bracken fern and brake open the bent root. The sticky sap numbs the pain, I believe it is full of a form of cyanide. Spider bite cut and rub onion juice, best for red back. The bush around Gympie has all these things plus a few snakes and scorpions. Now that land bridge we so often hear about, Tasmanian Aborigine was different to the mainland mix, they were original Papuan now point being if the land bridge theory was how our lot got here why didn't they get to Tassy. The land bridge (walkathon) must have been much earlier long before the Indian invasion of slave workers about 10,000 years ago to mine gold, good theory ? H.bigsis yes they have a poison spike under there tail, don't know about the fruit but the colour looks wrong to eat.
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist
Pfft. As if I needed any more proof.
Ever wonder why they're called jumper ants? Yes, that's right. Exactly the reason you think.
And by the way, I've pointed this out before, but if you follow Old Bob's advice about redback spider bites, you will die.
HawaiiBigSis
List Management
Really? The picture I saw seemed like the fruit was lovely deep red, rather like raspberries.
What color is wrong to eat? I've seen (and eaten) blue food, green food, lavender, red, and white, and most every shade in between...
Redback spiders seem to be like black widows (they certainly look similar). I give them VERY wide berth, and I wouldn't treat any kind of spider bite with onion juice, although it might be soothing, I can't imagine it's particularly effective against the poison...
I'd be interested in the cultural aspects of the "land bridge" and migrations; but I suspect that's a topic for a whole thread of its own.
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist
Yes, redback spiders are closely related to black widows. They prefer dark, dusty areas like the back corners of the garden shed. They were notorious for haunting outhouses, back when outhouses were still common.
No-one who has received treatment has died from a redback bite, as far as I know. Onion juice may well soothe the pain, but it does nothing for the neurotoxin that they inject.
politas
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Actually, very few people who don't receive treatment die from redback bites, either. Redback poison is generally only fatal to children and people who are weakened due to other causes. It'll make you quite sick, and it's very painful, but it generally won't kill you.
ETA: And I believe there is a strong argument that they were brought to Australia by Europeans.
ETA: And I believe there is a strong argument that they were brought to Australia by Europeans.
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Arthwollipot, my old neighbour not dead and during his working life got bitten a number of times stick raking( stick raking is picking up broken sticks that clearing dozer's miss) and the onion juice kills some of the toxin.(A lot of spiders are worse than red backs) Just like a electric coil (not the new ones)will fix some snake bites Never been bitten to prove this (phew sounds bad) Just short out the spark plugs with your hands. Wild fruits in Australia best left alone unless you are Malcom Douglas, not much anyway. Dam fruit bats raid everything, big about 600mm+ wing span or 2ft+ and in the thousands and they carry a form of rabies. Some say they are protected? Did we tell you about the shell back ticks, they all screw into your flesh (no pain) clockwise. And Gympie's wet gullies has leaches. All the native animals are immune to tick but they kill a lot of dogs, by the time you notice the dog staggering it's often to late. A table spoon of ammonia is the last resort. All this great medical info is free. Cheers
arthwollipot
Limerick Purist
Yes, I'm sorry for misleading. Redback bites can kill, but they usually don't. After doing the research, I realise that the Scouts weren't being completely honest with me when they said that untreated redback bites were almost always fatal. Well, they also told me that camping was fun, so I guess I should have been more skeptical.Box jellyfish, however, have been known to kill an adult in minutes. And let's not go into the blur-ringed octopus.