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funk, I think I already took him to task on the fire/safety training many months ago.

If I recall correctly, he was appointed a (what we call in the AF) a "Unit Safety Representative". He likely got some minimal training on doing monthly fire/safety inspections, and it probably wouldn't be reflected in his training records.

Ultima, if I'm wrong, I'm open to correction.

Wow, I'm charman of our local Health and Safety Committee. Does that make me a firefighter too? The local FD did come in and show us how to use the fire extinquishers and I test the fire alarms once a month. I am also the last one out of the building in the event of a fire as I make sure everyone is out. So I just gots ta be's a firemans, rite?
 
U1, I am not afraid to call your number, and I'm also not afraid to call the Sherriff's Office that services New Odenton.

I had a thought, albeit a fleeting one, that somehow you had seen the mistake of what you were doing here and had a sudden attack of conscience.

For reasons known only to you, you have chosen to carry on this charade, this farce, this fraud, this insult to our intelligence services.

Claiming to be a military veteran and part of the intelligence services is not without consequence.

I'd recommend you brush up on the Stolen Valor Act. You may well need an attorney before this is done.
 
Wow, I'm charman of our local Health and Safety Committee. Does that make me a firefighter too? The local FD did come in and show us how to use the fire extinquishers and I test the fire alarms once a month. I am also the last one out of the building in the event of a fire as I make sure everyone is out. So I just gots ta be's a firemans, rite?
Well, you are certainly qualified then, to speculate on anything related to fire protection/industrial hygiene/safety with regard to the 9/11 attacks. :)
 
funk, I think I already took him to task on the fire/safety training many months ago.

If I recall correctly, he was appointed a (what we call in the AF) a "Unit Safety Representative". He likely got some minimal training on doing monthly fire/safety inspections, and it probably wouldn't be reflected in his training records.

Ultima, if I'm wrong, I'm open to correction.

I think he claimed he was qualified to comment on fire issues because he was a "fire safety officer". Like he claimed he was an ex policeman. And ex Phantom even though he did not have clue what a Crew Chiefs real responsibilties were and didnt know the difference between line ops and engineering ops. When asked about what process he would carry out if a pilot snagged the IFF when he returned he did not have a clue what he would do even though he said he was responsible for all troubleshooting on the aircraft as a crew chief. I have fire safety modules in my transcript from my present job and previous. Also first aid stuff as well. For what he claim his transcript does not make sense.
 
Since ULTIMA seems to think he answered all of the questions (and correctly no less) I will repost all of the questions and his answers and my responses right here in one post, so he can see what is missing. Further, I will assign a score value to each of these.

How many phones are there on your desk, and what color(s) are they?
Score: 1/2
You answered: Black and Gray
This answer is: Incorrect
Response: The black phone is actually black. The gray phone is actually a different color.
Describe, in detail, what is displayed in the top center of your screen at all times during the work day.
Score: 1/5
You answered: "The classification of the system is displayed at the top center of the screen." I asked again, you answered "Top Secret".
This answer is: Incomplete.
Response: Your first answer was decidedly not "in detail" and your second answer is wrong (because it is missing several details).
How many digits are there in an "internal" phone number?
Score: 1/2
You answered: 4 digits
The answer is: sort of right
Response: Sometimes internal numbers are 4, and sometimes they are more. I phrased this question poorly, which lead to others.
What is your internal phone number?
Score: 0/5
You answered:
The answer is: non-existent
Response: You have not answered this question.
What organization (alphanumeric identifier) do you currently work for?
Score: 4/4
You answered: S2J13
The answer is: correct
Response: no problems here
What is your SID?
Score: 4/4
You answered: remisne
The answer is: correct
Response: This answer is consistent with other information you have provided in other discussions.

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I did also ask for your internal number (by which we now know I man "secure"). Why did you not provide it?
Score: 0/1
You answered:
The answer is: non-existent
Response: You have not explained why you did not answer this question. Here is where I explained the I really was asking the following two questions which I will now re-ask:
How many digits are there in a secure phone number?
What is your secure phone number?

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But I already clarified that I was speaking about "secure" phone numbers and not "internal" phone numbers as you are calling them. You have still dodged the original question, which was to provide an internal phone number (and a subsequent clarification to provide a "secure" number).
I already addressed this, but wanted to point out I've asked multiple times and you have ignored it.

I will throw in one more fun question though: What clearances do you currently possess (be specific, list compartments)?
Score: 0/5
You answered: "that's classified"
That answer is: incorrect
Response: A person's security clearance is not classified. I will be fair and change this question so I am no longer asking about your specific, personal accesses: Name at least 2 compartments an agency employee is read in to on their first day on the job.

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In conclusion, the following questions have not been completely addressed. Rewritten here for easy reference later on. None of the answers to these questions is classified. (That is not to say that the government wants the answers posted on a public forum. But ULTIMA1 doesn't seem to care about that type of thing.)

ULTIMA1's current "score" is 11 out of 28. Of course this is arbitrary, but from where I stand he's not doing so good.

1. What physical color is are most "gray" phones? (Hint: they aren't gray) (1 point)
2. What is the full text of the banner displayed at the middle of your screen at all times during the work day? (Hint: it's not "Top Secret") (5 points)
3. How many digits are there in a secure telephone number? (Hint: it's not 4 and there is only 1 answer to this question) (2 points)
4. What is your secure telephone number? (5 points)
5. Name at least 2 compartments an agency employee is read in to on their first day on the job. (5 points)
 
Or we can take a short cut. For one million points....

Take a picture or scan your badge and post it.

That's pretty simple right? These things are seen in public all the time, you have to have it on you to get in ergo you have to have it with you at home. If you are who you say you are it's probably on yor kitchen counter, in your pocket, on your end table, in your glove box right now. Show it to us.
 
Or we can take a short cut. For one million points....

Take a picture or scan your badge and post it.

That's pretty simple right? These things are seen in public all the time, you have to have it on you to get in ergo you have to have it with you at home. If you are who you say you are it's probably on yor kitchen counter, in your pocket, on your end table, in your glove box right now. Show it to us.

He's scanned documents in the past, to include a drivers license belonging to Roger Misner.

Legitimate or not, he still has access to documents like that.
 
Can we not just contact the NSA and point them towards this fools posts? If he is a janitor he will lose his job. If he's a receptionist he will lose his job. If he's a mail boy he will lose his job. If he's an NSA agent he will lose his job and probably go straight to guantanamo to be tortured - then spend the rest of his life with the NWO watching over him!

Roger the dodger - its over to you!
 
Probably. I'd like to see it anyways though.

He was challenged do so in the past, in fact he said that if he could prove who he was, that we would have to leave the forum. The challenge was met, he still would not produce the badge.
 
Can we not just contact the NSA and point them towards this fools posts? If he is a janitor he will lose his job. If he's a receptionist he will lose his job. If he's a mail boy he will lose his job. If he's an NSA agent he will lose his job and probably go straight to guantanamo to be tortured - then spend the rest of his life with the NWO watching over him!

Roger the dodger - its over to you!


He has been reported to several sets of authorities by several posters here, including myself. Given the sporadic nature of his posts over the past several days, I would postulate that he might be on the run with only limited access to the internet, such as you would find in an internet cafe. Probably not likely, but it's an interesting thought that his prolonged silence from before (several months, if I'm not mistaken, and he wasn't suspended to the best of my knowledge at just that point) and sporadic posting now could possibly indicate such a thing. Of course, if he's that desperate to maintain the charade, even while on the run, that he stops off at internet cafes to make the attempt, I'd say he won't be on the run for long.
 
He has been reported to several sets of authorities by several posters here, including myself. Given the sporadic nature of his posts over the past several days, I would postulate that he might be on the run with only limited access to the internet, such as you would find in an internet cafe. Probably not likely, but it's an interesting thought that his prolonged silence from before (several months, if I'm not mistaken, and he wasn't suspended to the best of my knowledge at just that point) and sporadic posting now could possibly indicate such a thing. Of course, if he's that desperate to maintain the charade, even while on the run, that he stops off at internet cafes to make the attempt, I'd say he won't be on the run for long.

Probably more like Daddy pulled the plug on Ultima's Internet access and he's been forced to the limited access you describe.

It is fun to think Jack Bauer is after him though, isn't it? Can you imagine that episode of 24?

Ultima1: "gee maybe you should be mature enough to admit my facts and evidence is true"

Jack Bauer: *Draws pistol*. Fade to black.
 
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[QUOTE=beachnut;4574875 Bottom line!!! there were intercepts on 911; so?

Lets look at some actula facts.

Fact1. According the the 9/11 commission no fightters got near any of the 9/11 planes.

Fact2. According to a verifiable NSA document there was at least 1 plane that was intercepted by fighters.
 
Fact2. According to a verifiable NSA document there was at least 1 plane that was intercepted by fighters.

No. This is according to you. And you're a liar so there is no reason to believe you, liar.
 
You answered: Black and Gray
This answer is: Incorrect
Response: The black phone is actually black. The gray phone is actually a different color.

Thanks for admitting there are 2 phones. The black line phone is black the old gray line phones are grey and the new ones are off white.


Score: 1/5
You answered: "The classification of the system is displayed at the top center of the screen." I asked again, you answered "Top Secret".
This answer is: Incomplete.

Thanks again for admitting the answer was correct.


Score: 1/2
You answered: 4 digits
The answer is: sort of right
Response: Sometimes internal numbers are 4, and sometimes they are more. I phrased this question poorly, which lead to others.

Thanks for admitting you did not properly phrase the question.

Score: 4/4
You answered: S2J13
The answer is: correct
Response: no problems here

Thanks for being mature enough to admit the answer was correct.

Score: 4/4
You answered: remisne
The answer is: correct
Response: This answer is consistent with other information you have provided in other discussions.

Thanks for being mature enough to admit the answer was correct.
 
Lets look at some actula facts.

Fact1. According the the 9/11 commission no fightters got near any of the 9/11 planes.

You be correct.

Fact2. According to a verifiable NSA document there was at least 1 plane that was intercepted by fighters.

Hogwash...produce the document. If you are talking about the FOIA letter, it DOES NOT CLAIM THAT!
 
OK, you said you were federal police officer but your NSA transcript shows you have been working for them since you left the AF. Were you military police? .


I was not military police. if you look at my transcript the very first course on the second page (last entry by date)is basic police training taken at the federal law enforcement training center in Glynco, GA.



The OSHA courses i took for the fire and safety rep was done after the dates on the transcript.
 
beachnut;4574875 Bottom line!!! there were intercepts on 911; so? Lets look at some actula facts. Fact1. According the the 9/11 commission no fightters got near any of the 9/11 planes. Fact2. According to a verifiable NSA document there was at least 1 plane that was intercepted by fighters.[/QUOTE said:
yep, lets look at the actula facts. Is that like a Dracula thing?

I have to say the commission is correct if the definition of 911 planes is 11, 175, 77 and 93.

The passengers on Flight 93 and the terrorists would have mentioned an intercept we have the CVR. Darn evidence, hard evidence defeats the “wantabe” NSA analyst who can’t prove he works for the NSA let alone his delusions on 911.

Sorry the only truth is planes on 911 were intercepted after the 4 planes had crashed. So you may get a message talking about an intercept, but it will not be about shooting down any planes used by terrorists.


I know planes were intercepted on 911, but not any of the terrorist’s planes. So when will you get your message that will destroy your shoot down delusion?

You are standing by your 93 was shot down? Why did the terrorist fly the plane into the ground if they got shot down? The FDR shows inputs from the terrorist pilot fling 93 into the ground; hard evidence showing 93 was not shot down.

So what missile did they use? You are the shoot down Ultima1 from PA and the NSA and now you have to go to work. Darn…

Fact 3: No shoot down. FDR and CVR prove it. oops

Fact 3f: Ultima1 does not think a 757 hit the Pentagon and he does not think the WTC fell due to gravity, failure from fire, and impact; maybe he likes to spread delusions.

Fact3z: sad after 7 years our crack NSA analyst is totally ignorant on the evidence of 911.
 
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