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six7s said:
Well, you do have an above average (fascination-wise) avatar pic... and - being average, I guess - I seldom compliment animated gifs
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Why thank you for your compliment, being average myself, rest assured the avator was not my choice, it was my daughters, she’s nine and way above my level of intellect.

But hey what do us "average " guys know ?
 
Homeland Insurgency said:
Is Wyatt a debunker too?

I'm just trying to keep it all on topic.

Happy Birthday Wyatt!
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You can't have noticed that everything is the topic here.

Thanks for the congrats from y'all though. His pic will be gone later I only put it up on a whim in the early hours.

Wyatts two year old. All he cares about are his toys and making a mess.
But like all my offspring he'll learn, from me, that there's always more than one side to any story.

BV
 
I found this lovely thought on Infowars.com:

"To deny 9/11 was an inside job is ABSOLUTE TREASON."

In the USA, the punishment for treason is death.

So I guess this truther is saying..."if you don't accept 9-11 truth..you should be killed".
 
Were't they the same ones to outright call Bush a dictator and tyrant? Oh irony at its finest even though the general idea from some of the bigger wac jobs isn't particularly new
 
Hypothesis tripod 2

HYPOTHESIS: Tripod 2.
After I realised that 9/11 was an inside job I got to thinking about what would have happened if the jets had actually missed one or both Towers. Actually missed them and crashed into the ground or another building.The video link below is a few pilots talking about how easy this would be to do at such high speeds.

Obviously if it WAS a set up investigators would have scoured the missed Tower or Towers with a fine tooth comb. They would definately have found the evidence of planted explosives. No way the perps could permit that. So what did they do ?

They installed 'Tripod 2' at ground zero from the night before 9/11. Tripod 2 was a large biowarfare exercise with all their kit ready to go the night before 9/11.

''A member of the Hyannis Fire Department, Tom Kennedy, was interviewed by Dan Rather after working for nearly 50 hours at Ground Zero. He said, "We arrived Monday night and started immediately''

I think the scenario would have been that if the jets had missed the targets the perps would have announced that there had been an Anthrax attack inside one or both towers. The building would have been instantly quarantined and prying eyes would have been kept away. The crowds would have been dispersed if not evacuated along with a portion of New York's other citizens possibly.

Then of course they would have had time and privacy to dispose of the evidence.QED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm58...ex.php?showtopic=6819&feature=player_embedded Easy to
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http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060704_tripod_fema.html
 
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Such a cute fellow. Did you find any recent pictures of him? A picture of him taken in 2002 or later would be great and worth a bunch of money I would think!
 
bill smith said:
HYPOTHESIS: Tripod 2.
After I realised that 9/11 was an inside job I got to thinking about what would have happened if the jets had actually missed one or both Towers. Actually missed them and crashed into the ground or another building.[/url]
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What jets? You're a no planer.
 
dtugg said:
What jets? You're a no planer.
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I already told you...I have not opted for one or the other, but I lean slightly towards real planes. I am letting the evidence lead me. This story, if true, would say that the planes were real. On the other hand the one we looked at yesterday would point to them being fake. So you see there is a lot of thnking to be done.
If they WERE real then we still have to explain how they blended into the buildings so easily. That leads to the columns maybe. You see how it goes.....
 
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bill smith said:
I already told you...I have not opted for one or the other, but lean I slightly towards real planes. I am letting the evidence lead me. This story, if true, would say that the planes were real. On the other hand the one we looked at yesterday would point to them being fake. So you see there is a lot of thnking to be done.
If they WERE real then we still have to explain how they blended into the buildings so easily. That leads to the columns maybe. You see how it goes.....
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They were real, no planer. I saw one of them. With my own eyes. It "blended with the building" because of its high velocity. No further explanation is necessary unless you are a nutjob no planer.
 
bill smith said:
I already told you...I have not opted for one or the other, but I lean slightly towards real planes.
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So do I, though the imaginary ones have more leg room.

Set aside your hatred and mistrust of the Government for just one minute and try to look at this question as dispassionately and objectively as possible. When applying Occam's Razor to the problem, do you honestly find the plane theory only slightly more reasonable than the no plane theory? Really?
 
JohnG said:
So do I, though the imaginary ones have more leg room.

Set aside your hatred and mistrust of the Government for just one minute and try to look at this question as dispassionately and objectively as possible. When applying Occam's Razor to the problem, do you honestly find the plane theory only slightly more reasonable than the no plane theory? Really?
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I try to be dispassionate and objective. I lean towards real planes because I cannot see why they would go for the obvious comlications of fake planes. But follow the argument in the link that we had yesterday and see if you see what I mean about no plane being indicated in that case.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137438&page=9
 
bill smith said:
HYPOTHESIS: Tripod 2.
After I realised that 9/11 was an inside job I got to thinking about what would have happened if the jets had actually missed one or both Towers. Actually missed them and crashed into the ground or another building.The video link below is a few pilots talking about how easy this would be to do at such high speeds.

Obviously if it WAS a set up investigators would have scoured the missed Tower or Towers with a fine tooth comb. They would definately have found the evidence of planted explosives. No way the perps could permit that. So what did they do ?

They installed 'Tripod 2' at ground zero from the night before 9/11. Tripod 2 was a large biowarfare exercise with all their kit ready to go the night before 9/11.

''A member of the Hyannis Fire Department, Tom Kennedy, was interviewed by Dan Rather after working for nearly 50 hours at Ground Zero. He said, "We arrived Monday night and started immediately''

I think the scenario would have been that if the jets had missed the targets the perps would have announced that there had been an Anthrax attack inside one or both towers. The building would have been instantly quarantined and prying eyes would have been kept away. The crowds would have been dispersed if not evacuated along with a portion of New York's other citizens possibly.

Then of course they would have had time and privacy to dispose of the evidence.QED.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bm58...ex.php?showtopic=6819&feature=player_embedded Easy to
miss
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/060704_tripod_fema.html
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You presented a dumber than dirt video by Balsamo the mental nut case who threatens to kill people who disagree with his failed ideas on 911. He has delusions on 911 like you do Bill; far out dirt dumb ideas on 911.
P4t experts are unable to fly into building, yet the terrorist beat all the p4t dolts.

Balsamo is talking flutter, but gee, Flight 11 was below dive speed at impact! Balsamo is a nut case. Balsamo is not an airline pilot, he is an anti-government terrorists apologist.

Balsamo can’t fly as good as terrorist, good expert to use and repeat his failed ideas!

Two dirt dumb references. Good job... p4t, what a joke.
 
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beachnut said:
You presented a dumber than dirt video by Balsamo the mental nut case who threatens to kill people who disagree with his failed ideas on 911. He has delusions on 911 like you do Bill; far out dirt dumb ideas on 911.
P4t experts are unable to fly into building, yet the terrorist beat all the p4t dolts.

Balsamo is talking flutter, but gee, Flight 11 was below dive speed at impact! Balsamo is a nut case. Balsamo is not an airline pilot, he is an anti-government terrorists apologist.

Balsamo can’t fly as good as terrorist, good expert to repeat his failed ideas!

Two dirt dumb references. Good job
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I see you got a mention on the pilots forum.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=16647&st=160&gopid=10768999&#entry10768999
 
bill smith said:
I see you got a mention on the pilots forum.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum//index.php?showtopic=16647&st=160&gopid=10768999&#entry10768999
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Balsamo loves to spew delusions like you do. He even says the same stupid thing like your sig. Balsamo is a dolt and you fell for his delusional video.
Do you agree with Balsamo and his crackpot pilots that they are the only pilots who can’t hit a building in an aircraft?

Balsamo commenting on me instead of collecting the Pulitzer Prize for the massive no theory story on 911 it becomes clear they are like you just spewing delusional ideas on 911. Pure junk. Balsamo offers no theories on 911 due to his massive ignorance on all 911 issues. You should go join the brain trust at p4tf where idiotic ideas are the standard.

Marines, looking for a few good men;
p4t, looking for a few fringe pilot to agree blindly to nutcase ideas
 
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beachnut said:
Balsamo loves to spew delusions like you do. He even says the same stupid thing like your sig. Balsamo is a dolt and you fell for his delusional video.
Do you agree with Balsamo and his crackpot pilots that they are the only pilots who can’t hit a building in an aircraft?

Balsamo commenting on me instead of collecting the Pulitzer Prize for the massive no theory story on 911 it becomes clear they are like you just spewing delusional ideas on 911. Pure junk. Balsamo offers no theories on 911 due to his massive ignorance on all 911 issues. You should go join the brain trust at p4tf where idiotic ideas are the standard.

Marines, looking for a few good men;
p4t, looking for a few fringe pilot to agree blindly to nutcase ideas
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There is a famous pilot out there with more than 40 years experience in about a hundred different types of aircraft. He holds or has held 17 world flying records and has more than 19,000 hours under his belt. He has been a test plot, was in Vietnam I believe, flew for the CIA and so on. His resume goes on and on forever. He says that he would miss five times out of six at that altitude and speed. He said you would not be able to pick your target building out of all the buildings and would have no points of reference. Everthing would be happening too quickly at nearly 600mph. I can't remember his name right now but I tend to believe him.
 
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