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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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L The Detective said:
Your premise that Christianity is the "greatest system of morality" is unsupported. Using "Thomas Jefferson" is an appeal to authority. These are blatant logical fallacies, to put it in very basic terms, your arguments just don't make sense. They don't work.

If you're going to try to use logic to make your points, at least learn to do it correctly. Otherwise your facade will be too transparent.
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That puzzled me too.What makesThomas Jefferson the final arbiter in such matters? I'm still waiting for the evidence promised us in the title of the thread.
 
dafydd said:
That puzzled me too.What makesThomas Jefferson the final arbiter in such matters? I'm still waiting for the evidence promised us in the title of the thread.
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Don't hold your breath. I'm still waiting for an answer regarding dismissing the other LDS Witnesses which DOC keeps dodging.

Although, I have to say his reason for disregarding the first two of the Three Witnesses certainly sheds light on the subject. It's ok for the weird and strange to happen in the Bible, but if it happens to someone else, then they must be lying.
 
DOC said:
And by the way, Jefferson never referred to it as the Jefferson Bible.
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Of course not. He avoided the term bible, which implies religion. He was completely against the fanciful stories of the actual bible.

You know. The ones that claim that jesus was the son of god, had risen from the dead., had walked on water. Fed the masses....

You know. the nonsense.
 
Hokulele said:
And Ducky's posts in that same thread prove you wrong.
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If you're saying Jefferson didn't financially support Christianity and admire its teachings like the title of that thread said you'd be very wrong.
 
joobz said:
Of course not. He avoided the term bible, which implies religion. He was completely against the fanciful stories of the actual bible.

You know. The ones that claim that jesus was the son of god, had risen from the dead., had walked on water. Fed the masses....

You know. the nonsense.
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But that didn't stop him from thinking of himself and calling himself a Christian.
 
DOC said:
But that didn't stop him from thinking of himself and calling himself a Christian.
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So does Dawkins. Identifying one's self as a christian is a rather logical cultural thing to do.


ETA: I, too, still identify with christian culture. But I do reject some of Jesus' more amoral aspects. Such as his condoning of slavery.
 
DOC said:
If you're saying Jefferson didn't financially support Christianity and admire its teachings like the title of that thread said you'd be very wrong.
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DOC said:
But that didn't stop him from thinking of himself and calling himself a Christian.
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Hahahah...keep living in your own little delusional world. Things like history, reality and hiw own words show how ignorant and deluded you are about Jefferson.

The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814


If we did a good act merely from love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist? ...Their virtue, then, must have had some other foundation than the love of God.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Law, June 13, 1814


You say you are a Calvinist. I am not. I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Ezra Stiles Ely, June 25, 1819


You don't want to know what he thought of Calvin and many protestant sects.
 
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DOC said:
If you're saying Jefferson didn't financially support Christianity and admire its teachings like the title of that thread said you'd be very wrong.
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Well he probably admired the approval of slavery.
 
Fitter said:
Well he probably admired the approval of slavery.
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Well Jefferson inherited many slaves at age 14 and Washington inherited his at age 10. Bottom line is that I think most people would agree that blacks in the US are better off today because both Jefferson and Washington lived.
 
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DOC said:
Well he inherited many slaves at age 14 and Washington inherited his at age 10. Bottom line is that I think most people would agree that blacks in the US are better off today because Jefferson and Washington lived.
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So that justifies their and Jesus' support of Slavery?
 
DOC said:
Well Jefferson inherited many slaves at age 14 and Washington inherited his at age 10. Bottom line is that I think most people would agree that blacks in the US are better off today because both Jefferson and Washington lived.
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What did Washington or Jefferson do that made blacks in America better off today?
 
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