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Gympie and ancient history

Old Bob said:
Gee it must be great to be smart like Athon and such a sweet guy. Just to know that all our history is correct.
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Nope. Faced with two scenarios, I just go with the one for which there is ample evidence. To show it's wrong, you'll need to do more than repeat some rumours and insinuate some grand Australian conspiracy keeping your evidence under wraps.

But you are wrong about me wanting attention, I don't give a s---
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All attention whores say that. :p

Athon
 
Elizabeth I said:
[ot] I thought dogs and wolves could interbreed?
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Yes, they can. But Dingos and wolves can't, even though dingos and dogs can.

This means that dogs are more closely related to wolves than dingos are related to wolves.
 
Damien Evans said:
Or anyone else for that matter.
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Northwest Brunswick State School taught the dingo came from India. My wife was taught that from 1950 on. This has been a interesting thread counting the chips on shoulders and the shear impossibility of convincing people that their is stuff to learn that has been hidden.
 
Old Bob said:
Northwest Brunswick State School taught the dingo came from India. My wife was taught that from 1950 on. This has been a interesting thread counting the chips on shoulders and the shear impossibility of convincing people that their is stuff to learn that has been hidden.
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Well that settles it then. Your wife's recollection of a primary school lesson over 50 years ago.

Bob, are you aware how foolish posts like this are?
 
Old Bob said:
Northwest Brunswick State School taught the dingo came from India. My wife was taught that from 1950 on. This has been a interesting thread counting the chips on shoulders and the shear impossibility of convincing people that their is stuff to learn that has been hidden.
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A detailed picture of the origin of the Australian dingo, obtained from the study of mitochondrial DNA


From these results a detailed scenario of the origin and history of the dingo can be derived: dingoes have an origin from domesticated dogs coming from East Asia, possibly in connection with the Austronesian expansion into Island Southeast Asia. They were introduced from a small population of dogs, possibly at a single occasion, and have since lived isolated from other dog populations.
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Can ya read that, drongo, or is it still hidden from you?
 
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Uluru



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Aboriginal Cave Art



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Kangaroo*​



*Keen observers will note that this is an African Kangaroo, first intrduced by the Phoenecians, and is not to be confused with the Asiatic Kangaroos introduced during Indian settlement.
 
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And that one was probably even less reliable then his wife.

For the record anyway, I was not taught that Dingos game from India or whatever the hell his argument is.
 
politas said:
Yes, they can. But Dingos and wolves can't, even though dingos and dogs can.

This means that dogs are more closely related to wolves than dingos are related to wolves.
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Wow. So dogs are the "missing link" between wolves and dingos? ;) Seriously, I didn't know that and it's fascinating. Thanks. [/derail over]
 
Elizabeth I said:
Wow. So dogs are the "missing link" between wolves and dingos? ;) Seriously, I didn't know that and it's fascinating. Thanks. [/derail over]
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This might illustrate something:


(left to right)

Iberian Wolf

Order Carnivora
Family Canidae
Genus Canis
Species Canis lupis


Golden (Indian) Jackal

Order Carnivora
Family Canidae
Genus Canis
Species Canis aureus


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Domestic Dog

Order Carnivora
Family Canidae
Genus Canis
Species Canis Lupis
Subspecies Canis lupis familiaris

Dingo

Order Carnivora
Family Canidae
Genus Canis
Species C. Lupis
Subspecies Canis lupis dingo
 
Wildy said:
And that one was probably even less reliable then his wife.

For the record anyway, I was not taught that Dingos game from India or whatever the hell his argument is.
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Having actually taught in Queensland, I can categorically say there is nothing in the syllabus for science, nor anything in any primary syllabus, that says dingos come from India.

Given this was in the 50s, I'd say it was simply some piece of trivia the teacher had learned and decided to pass on. Unfortunately, Bob suffers from what many people seem to suffer - the thought that if they taught it in school, it is an authoritative fact. As it's been shown here, this one little fact is probably incorrect.

Athon
 
Wildy said:
You do remember his source regarding Aborigines being sold into slavery in the US right?
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Links, please?


As to what the little woman learned in school.... Well, Bob that just goes to show you what happens when you let the lesser of the species get book learning that their brains are just not geared towards understanding.

Indian? Indo-Nesian? Indo-China? Possibly she just got her purty little head all in a befuddle. Probably oughtn't ta have been in no school in the first place. Don't teach you nothing there about sewin' and cookin', after all. Just fills their heads with worthless notions, I say.
 
politas said:
Yes, they can. But Dingos and wolves can't, even though dingos and dogs can.

This means that dogs are more closely related to wolves than dingos are related to wolves.
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Cite?


Since Dingos are a subspecies of Wolf (Canis Lupis Dingo), it wouldn't make any sense at all if they couldn't.
 
Some information


Here is an excerpt:


The wolf, coyote, jackal, and domestic dog (including the dingo) have 78 chromosomes arranged in 39 pairs. They are interfertile (unless size or behavioural differences obstruct mating) and produce fertile offspring.
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and here is another:


DINGO/COYOTE & DINGO/WOLF HYBRIDS

Coyotes have also been crossed with Australian dingoes. This cross was made at a time the dingo was considered to be different species to the domestic dog.

The dingo has also been crossed with the wolf. According to Vol 1 of "Animal Life and the World of Nature" (1902-1903), Mr HC Brooke owned a female wolf which had become quite tame and was an excellent mother. This wolf was the mother of the wolf-dingo hybrid owned by Lord Walter Rothschild. The book also depicted a tame dingo owned and exhibited by Mrs HC Brooke, so it's likely that one of those dingoes was the sire of Lord Rothschild's hybrid
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So, is it a Dilf or a Wongo?
 
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Is "Dingo's breakfast" a common expression to forumites? It was in frequent use during my Army days, but I suspect we picked it up from the bushies.
 
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Foolmewunz said:
Links, please?


As to what the little woman learned in school.... Well, Bob that just goes to show you what happens when you let the lesser of the species get book learning that their brains are just not geared towards understanding.

Indian? Indo-Nesian? Indo-China? Possibly she just got her purty little head all in a befuddle. Probably oughtn't ta have been in no school in the first place. Don't teach you nothing there about sewin' and cookin', after all. Just fills their heads with worthless notions, I say.
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Scarily well done. ;)
 
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