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bill smith said:
I never felt exercised in that argument or a moment Teddy. Even though it's a minor point as I said. It COULD become a truly major mover and shaker under the right circumstances though. But that's for later....
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Exactly what circumstances would make your unsubstantiated contention of smoke generators more probable?
 
jaydeehess said:
Exactly what circumstances would make your unsubstantiated contention of smoke generators more probable?
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He thinks if the clip of this supposed "smoke generator" is shown on television, a national poll could be taken to determine "the truth".

Of course, no firefighters will be allowed in this poll due to their propensity to "exaggerate". Not to mention the fact that hundreds of them failed to see it for what it was when it was right in front of them, so I doubt they'd be able to figure it out by watching a video.
 
What bill needs to do is provide evidence. otherwise its just wishy washy speculation on his part, and should be ignored for his ignorant comments
 
RedIbis said:
Take it as a badge of honor. Gravy will only address illiterate twoofies and those who agree with him. Everyone else goes on ignore. I doubt there's anyone on jref who has more people on ignore than he does.
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Yes Red, it has nothing to do with the lying, dodging of direct questions and overweening arrogance displayed by the TM.
 
1,000,000 dollar challenge

Hi Gramps. I think it's a great and timely move on Heiwa's part. He better draw up the parameters and terms with great care though for his own protection. He cannot lose the money if he gets this right and he can get the interest of every engineer in the World.....and he has the professional credibility to give this thing real teeth. We will have to wait nd see if he really means this or not. I hope so.

Keep the faith Gramps.
 
bill smith said:
He cannot lose the money if he gets this right
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So far, his approach to not losing the money has been to redraft the terms or change the structure every time he looks like losing. Not exactly the sort of behaviour that inspires confidence.

bill smith said:
and he can get the interest of every engineer in the World.....and he has the professional credibility to give this thing real teeth.
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:dl::dl::dl::dl::dl:

That's worth at least five. Tell me, bill smith, what colour is the sky on your planet?

Dave
 
Oh good lord. He's talking about HEIWA, isn't he? For once twinstead is speechless
 
Heiwa? Professional credibility? You are trying to be funny, aren't you bill? Well, it worked, I laughed out loud.
 
1,000,000 dollar challenge

bill smith said:
I think it's a great and timely move on Heiwa's part. He better draw up the parameters and terms with great care though for his own protection. He cannot lose the money if he gets this right and he can get the interest of every engineer in the World.....
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Heiwa is carefully refining the "terms and conditions" of his challenge post-by-post. He has no clue what they should be or how they will end up. I foresee the need for a 400m tall steel-framed building as being the final requirement.

bill smith said:
and he has the professional credibility to give this thing real teeth. We will have to wait nd see if he really means this or not. I hope so.
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No he hasn't. I contacted one of the naval magazines mentioned in his CV, one of those where supposedly he has had "many articles published". He had precisely one proper article published some years back (before the journal went to electronic storage) but all subsequent submissions by Bjorkman have been rejected as "libelous". At the website you'll find one absurd entry (which is forum like - I imagine they have one for subscribers) by Bjorkman which receives short-shrift from a professional.

And if you want sources you'll have to do your own digging. Not difficult.
 
Dave Rogers said:
So far, his approach to not losing the money has been to redraft the terms or change the structure every time he looks like losing. Not exactly the sort of behaviour that inspires confidence.



:dl::dl::dl::dl::dl:

That's worth at least five. Tell me, bill smith, what colour is the sky on your planet?

Dave
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Spring is in the air Dave. How long has Heiwa been making this offer then ? I see wonderful and global potential in this. For one million Heiwa can be as famous as Brunel. The most globally known engineer for centuries. Immortality beckons and a great evil exposed.
 
bill smith said:
Spring is in the air Dave. How long has Heiwa been making this offer then ? I see wonderful and global potential in this. For one million Heiwa can be as famous as Brunel. The most globally known engineer for centuries. Immortality beckons and a great evil exposed.
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OK, you are definitely messing with us. There is no way you can actually be serious about this. Right? Well, I kind of hope you are serious because it is funnier for me that way.
 
GlennB said:
No he hasn't. I contacted one of the naval magazines mentioned in his CV, one of those where supposedly he has had "many articles published". He had precisely one proper article published some years back (before the journal went to electronic storage) but all subsequent submissions by Bjorkman have been rejected as "libelous". At the website you'll find one absurd entry (which is forum like - I imagine they have one for subscribers) by Bjorkman which receives short-shrift from a professional.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I didn't know that, not that I'm surprised. Heiwa recently submitted an article to the Journal of Engineering Mechanics. I emailed the editor about all of his "Heiwa type experiments" and such. Heiwa still told me that he has a 100% chance of getting published. I wonder how that will turn out. :rolleyes:
 
I have not been following the Heeiwa threads. How is his $1M challenge backed up? Does he have a bond in that amount secured by, or held in trust by, a third party?

I mean, I can say I will give someone a $mill if they can do this or that but I do not have a $mill.
 
GlennB said:
1,000,000 dollar challenge



Heiwa is carefully refining the "terms and conditions" of his challenge post-by-post. He has no clue what they should be or how they will end up. I foresee the need for a 400m tall steel-framed building as being the final requirement.



No he hasn't. I contacted one of the naval magazines mentioned in his CV, one of those where supposedly he has had "many articles published". He had precisely one proper article published some years back (before the journal went to electronic storage) but all subsequent submissions by Bjorkman have been rejected as "libelous". At the website you'll find one absurd entry (which is forum like - I imagine they have one for subscribers) by Bjorkman which receives short-shrift from a professional.

And if you want sources you'll have to do your own digging. Not difficult.
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I wonder iwho the magazine thought was being libelled ? Let me think.......Could it have been the American Government by any chance ? Maybe the magazine was afraid to ruffle any American feathers ? Obviously they like Heiwa's articles in the normal course of events having previously published his fine work.
Luckily I think the world is moving into a feather-ruffling phase these days and we will have to see what comes out of it.
 
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bill smith said:
How long has Heiwa been making this offer then ?
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Two days, and he's changed the terms of the offer retrospectively four times since then.

bill smith said:
I see wonderful and global potential in this. For one million Heiwa can be as famous as Brunel. The most globally known engineer for centuries. Immortality beckons and a great evil exposed.
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I'm tempted to bet you $1,000,000 that this never happens, but I'm not a liar and a cheat so I won't pretend to offer money I don't have. Instead, I think I'll just bet you a Stundie nomination against a public apology. If, in one year from the time and date of this post, Heiwa can reasonably be described as "the most globally known engineer for centuries" on the basis of his dishonest and near-fraudulent offer of $1M which he clearly has no intention of honouring, I will post any apology you care to draft for the fact that I've nominated the above post for the Stundie awards.

Dave
 
Dave Rogers said:
Two days, and he's changed the terms of the offer retrospectively four times since then.



I'm tempted to bet you $1,000,000 that this never happens, but I'm not a liar and a cheat so I won't pretend to offer money I don't have. Instead, I think I'll just bet you a Stundie nomination against a public apology. If, in one year from the time and date of this post, Heiwa can reasonably be described as "the most globally known engineer for centuries" on the basis of his dishonest and near-fraudulent offer of $1M which he clearly has no intention of honouring, I will post any apology you care to draft for the fact that I've nominated the above post for the Stundie awards.

Dave
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Let's wait until the hard text of the challenge is presented (which might take a little time to get exactly right). If Heiwa gets this up and running the internet will be agog with this in days. In weeks the mainstream media will have to pick up on the story whether they like it or not. We are talking viral. 9/11 goes interactive.

This new approach will reach the parts the old approach did not reach. Every engineer's cafe in the world will have huddles of engineers in conclave. If neccessary the Truth Movement will do a fundraiser to raise the one million for this or for the many other possible challenges that I can foresee being designed.
 
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bill, people like you are the reason that it is often impossible for people to tell what twoofers say from a parody. I mean, what you write definitely looks like parody, but since you are a twoofer, you could be serious. And like I said before, I hope it is the latter, just for the lulz.
 
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