Molten Steel

[Christopher7]

Whatever... You could ask him about the molten steel considering you are using his quote to strengthen your argument.
Bob forgive you should follow up on teh truth.
Why would I want to keep a bone in the shade?

Bob forbid you should believe what he said.

"Always keep your bone in the shade."
Old Chinese proverb

 

[funk de fino]

Bottom line, NIST did not explain the collapse of the trade towers.

How many times do you intend to repeat this pathetic lie.

 

[funk de fino]

Bob forbid you should believe what he said.

"Always keep your bone in the shade."
Old Chinese proverb

Intellectual cowardice froms supposed truth seekers?

Surprisingly none of them ever want to clarify anything with people they source.

 

[Sunstealer]

You cannot determine what melted steel by looking at it. Your question is silly.

So how do you come to the conclusion that this liquid steel was the product of thermite and not something else if you as you say above cannot determine it?

 

[Christopher7]

Bottom line, NIST did not explain the collapse of the trade towers.

No, they did. You just don't like the answer.

NIST reply to stj911truth
http://www.911proof.com/NIST.pdf

pg 3
NIST carried its analysis to the point where the buildings reached global instability.

pg 4
We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse.

NIST has stated that it did not analyze the collapse of the towers.
NIST’s analysis was carried to the point of collapse initiation.

 

[Christopher7]

So how do you come to the conclusion that this liquid steel was the product of thermite and not something else if you as you say above cannot determine it?

Because there is no other possibility.

 

[Christopher7]

Intellectual cowardice froms supposed truth seekers?

Adolescent insult from a denier!

Surprisingly none of them ever want to clarify anything with people they source.

Clarify?
What part of [FONT=&quot]"[/FONT][FONT=&quot]I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center[/FONT][FONT=&quot]."[/FONT] don't you understand?

 

[bje]

Because there is no other possibility.

Then why won't you provide any sources for that claim?

Are we going to have to keep asking you?

 

[funk de fino]

Adolescent insult from a denier!

It is an astute observation based on your postings.

Clarify?
What part of [FONT=&quot]"[/FONT][FONT=&quot]I saw melting of girders in World Trade Center[/FONT][FONT=&quot]."[/FONT] don't you understand?

Why do the supposed truth seekers refuse to contact anyone to get more info? See the Brent Blanchard paper for a perfect example.

You could blow it wide open with more info from Abolhassan Astaneh-Asl.

 

[funk de fino]

NIST reply to stj911truth
http://www.911proof.com/NIST.pdf

pg 3
NIST carried its analysis to the point where the buildings reached global instability.

pg 4
We are unable to provide a full explanation of the total collapse.

NIST has stated that it did not analyze the collapse of the towers.
NIST’s analysis was carried to the point of collapse initiation.

Stop lying you have been shown their explanation for the complete collapse in the December FAQ's. This was given after the quotes you have posted above.

That letter was 27th September 2007. The December FAQ's were from Decmeber 2007. It gives an explanation and calculations backing it up.

You have been shown this and continue to lie. It is truly disgusting.

 

[funk de fino]

Bob forbid you should believe what he said.

"Always keep your bone in the shade."
Old Chinese proverb

Do you believe the dutch demo guy when he says the towers were not CD?

Do you believe Mark Loizeaux when he says the CD claims are hollywood fantasy?

Do you believe Brent Blanchard when he says the steel was forensically examined and catalogued prior to being taken away?

 

[Sunstealer]

You cannot determine what melted steel by looking at it. Your question is silly.

So how do you come to the conclusion that this liquid steel was the product of thermite and not something else if you as you say above cannot determine it?

Because there is no other possibility.

Thermite is the only known possible cause of the molten steel in the WTC debris piles.

This is a FACT.

But you also said

I don't know how the metal stayed molten for as long as it did, only that it did.

You keep changing your position - one minute you claim you don't know, the next you claim thermite, then you say you cannot determine steel melted from thermite from steel melted in the pile.

How does thermite manage to keep steel in the liquid state for weeks on end?Please answer this C7.

 

[Sunstealer]

Look at this video - 2Kg of thermite takes approximately 1:20 to burn (from ignition to going out). Note how violent the reaction is. Note how bright the flame is.



Did you also see how the person at the end asking the question mixes up molten and liquid and the guy corrects them saying that the iron is now solid. Damn that iron cooled down fast. How can this reaction produce enough heat to keep steel liquid if the iron generated at 4500F cools to form a solid so soon after?

Why were there no reports from the hundreds of contractors on sight of bright white flames? You need some form of protection like when you arc weld to view light of that intensity.

 

[Christopher7]

So how do you come to the conclusion that this liquid steel was the product of thermite and not something else if you as you say above cannot determine it?

Because there is no other possibility.

Then why won't you provide any sources for that claim?

Get serious.

Thermite melts steel.

Can you site another possibility for the molten steel in the debris piles?

 

[Sunstealer]

Just because a metal becomes a liquid doesn't mean that the metal remains liquid forever C7. When liquid metal cools it returns to a solid.

If the metal is to remain a liquid then it needs extra heat energy for it to remain liquid otherwise it's going to cool down.

How can thermite produce this energy over weeks?

Yes, yes we know thermite melts steel, but you are not telling us how it can do this over a period of weeks. You have to show how.

Hint: Saying thermite melts steel is not an answer.

However, there has never been any proof of liquid steel so your question is moot. If we say fires you'll say they weren't hot enough.

I'd really also like to know how this thermite got into the rubble pile. We know that there wasn't tons of it outside in the plaza so the only place it could be would be in the building.

Why did the NWO use thousands of times the amount of thermite needed to just cut columns, but keep liquid steel liquid for weeks?

Lets say that there were a good few tonnes of themite per floor and that this was burning before the collapse to cut the columns.

Why didn't all this thermite burn up? Why was the majority of it not burnt?

When the towers collapsed the towers constituents and contents were thrown everywhere.

Thermite powder is very light, it would have blown everywhere after the collapse. How did thermite manage to remain in such quantities and concentrations after the collapse? Why wasn't it blown away like dust?

Lastly, thermite requires a very high temperature to ignite. If the fires in the rubble pile were not hot enough then how could it ignite this powder?

You see C7 the more you claim thermite the more questions you throw up. You can't just shout "thermite melts steel" and expect anyone to accept that as an answer. You have to show how thermite could survive the collapse and not get spread everywhere and then you have to show how it could be ignited then show how it can maintain it's reaction over weeks.

 

[Christopher7]

you have been shown their explanation for the complete collapse in the December FAQ's.

That letter was 27th September 2007. The December FAQ's were from Decmeber 2007. It gives an explanation and calculations backing it up.

The FAQ hypothesis requires all the weight of the upper block being applied to the floor connections. That is not what happened.

The north tower tilted a few degrees and fell straight down. Most of the weight was on the interior and exterior columns.
Even if the top section moved to one side a little, the weight of one exterior wall would be outside the building and the weight of the core would still be mostly inside the core area.

It would be physically impossible to apply all the weight of the top section to the floor connections.

 

[Christopher7]

You keep changing your position - one minute you claim you don't know, the next you claim thermite, then you say you cannot determine steel melted from thermite from steel melted in the pile.

There is no change in my position. You are misquoting me.

How does thermite manage to keep steel in the liquid state for weeks on end?Please answer this C7.

I have answered that several times. Go back and read.

 

[Sunstealer]

I'm not misquoting you, I've provided the very quotes to back it up - the cheek! You've just been found out.

You haven't provided an answer as far as I can see - that's why I'm asking it. Provide the link to your post where you show how it's possible or explain it now.

 

[Christopher7]

Why were there no reports from the hundreds of contractors on sight of bright white flames? You need some form of protection like when you arc weld to view light of that intensity.

You ask questions that require speculation in a vain attempt to claim "It can't be because".

This is not evidence of anything, it's a denial tactic.

 

[Christopher7]

You haven't provided an answer as far as I can see - that's why I'm asking it. Provide the link to your post where you show how it's possible or explain it now.

I said I didn't know and that no one can provide an answer. [or words to that effect]

If you believe the witnesses who said there was molten metal six weeks later, then there is no point in asking the question.

If you don't believe the witnesses and you don't think there was any molten metal six weeks later, then there is no point in asking the question.