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Wtc 7

johnny karate said:
This supposed "evidence" does not exist in a vacuum. What about the eyes of hundreds of fire professionals experienced in observing smoke dynamics who were in position to see this phenomena firsthand? None of them corroborate your theory. Why do you feel your after the fact, layperson's opinion trumps theirs?
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As I said, it looks like a smoke generator to me Johnny. It does not resemble smoke being blown out of a broken window which is the prevailing theory in certain quarters I believe. For me my own eyes are what I go by. Don't you think it looks like a smoke generator ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY
 
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LOL

"what it looks like" and a dollar will get you a cup of coffee, bill. So. What exactly do YOU expect to have seen then if there weren't your delightfully loony 'smoke generators'?
 
bill smith said:
As I said, it looks like a smoke generator to me Johnny. It does not resemble smoke being blown out of a broken window which is the prevailing theory in certain quarters I believe. For me my own eyes are what I go by. Don't you think it looks like a smoke generator ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY
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No. And my opinion is corroborated by every single firefighter who was on the scene. Again, why do feel your opinion trumps theirs?
 
johnny karate said:
No. And my opinion is corroborated by every single firefighter who was on the scene. Again, why do feel your opinion trumps theirs?
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They saw what they saw and I see what I see Johnny. That's a smoke generator, no error. It seems obvious to me that that smoke is being mechanically pumped out like the smoke from a locomotive. Just a bit faster but in the same pulsed, rolling way. Smoke that being blown out does not look like that. It's only another minor observation but quite n interesting one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY
 
bill smith said:
They saw what they saw and I see what I see Johnny. That's a smoke generator, no error. It seems obvious to me that that smoke is being mechanically pumped out like the smoke from a locomotive. Just a bit faster but in the same pulsed, rolling way. Smoke that being blown out does not look like that. It's only another minor observation but quite n interesting one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY
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You're not answering my question: Why do you feel your opinion trumps that of trained professionals who were on the scene?
 
johnny karate said:
Which means you have your doubts. What reason do you have to suspect the FDNY would keep silent about something like this?
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No....really....I couldn't say. Not on this particular aspect of 9/11 anyway. Though I do have my doubts about the fireman who said that '' WTC7 was fully involved in fire from ground to ceiling, all 47 floors''. I felt that he might have been exaggerating a little.
 
You certainly can believe whatever you want, bill. Smoke generators it is then, if that's what it looks like to you. Stay true to yourself, that's what I always say.

Smoke generators ROCK!
 
twinstead said:
You certainly can believe whatever you want, bill. Smoke generators it is then, if that's what it looks like to you. Stay true to yourself, that's what I always say.

Smoke generators ROCK!
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Perhaps someday soon a Truther will make a 9/11 presentation on coast-to-coast television. He could do well to finish with that clip asking poeple to call in giving their opinion on what it might be. A kind of 9/11-interactive thing. That sort of approach gets people involved . Not a bad idea. Pass it on please.
 
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bill smith said:
No....really....I couldn't say. Not on this particular aspect of 9/11 anyway.
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Right. Which means you have your doubts. I merely asked for your opinion, not for you to make a definitive statement of fact (something you seem to have no compunction doing with regards to smoke generators, it seems). Your hesitancy to do so indicates you are suspicious of the FDNY silence on this issue. I want to know why.

bill smith said:
Though I do have my doubts about the fireman who said that '' WTC7 was fully involved in fire from ground to ceiling, all 47 floors''. I felt that he might have been exaggerating a little.
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So we've established that you think the FDNY have been untruthful in their depiction of the events of 9/11. Again, what basis do you have to believe the FDNY is lying or keeping silent about what they experienced on 9/11?
 
so if it looks like smoke from a smoke generator, then IT MUST BE so.

Where is the picture they use to bring out of that animal that looked like one thing, but was actually another?

TAM:)
 
bill smith said:
They saw what they saw and I see what I see Johnny. That's a smoke generator, no error. It seems obvious to me that that smoke is being mechanically pumped out like the smoke from a locomotive.
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Will someone please corroborate for me that this guy actually says:

"smoke generator"

I just wanted to make sure cause my eyes are not 20/20.


...Now I'm sure. Totally sure. 9-11 truth is dead. "Smoke Generator" just convinced me of this.
 
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bill neglects to rub his two remaining brain cells together

bill smith said:
As I said, it looks like a smoke generator to me Johnny. It does not resemble smoke being blown out of a broken window which is the prevailing theory in certain quarters I believe. For me my own eyes are what I go by. Don't you think it looks like a smoke generator ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY
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Theres a large hole in the side of the tower where the plane entered. very little smoke is exiting it. This means there is air entering it. Bill when you sit in front of a fireplace do you wonder why smoke comes out the top of the chimney and not out the fireplace?
 
johnny karate said:
Right. Which means you have your doubts. I merely asked for your opinion, not for you to make a definitive statement of fact (something you seem to have no compunction doing with regards to smoke generators, it seems). Your hesitancy to do so indicates you are suspicious of the FDNY silence on this issue. I want to know why.



So we've established that you think the FDNY have been untruthful in their depiction of the events of 9/11. Again, what basis do you have to believe the FDNY is lying or keeping silent about what they experienced on 9/11?
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I think the FDNY did a fine job on 9/11. In addition to their tremendous sacrifices I esoecially appreciated the 12,000 pages of sworn testimony they gave in the days and weeks after the events. Some of them, like the 'all 47 floors' guy made statements that are hard to reconcile with the visual reecord but that's not proof of anything. He may have been just exaggerating or mistaken.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ4dVo5QgYg Firemen's Testimony- Study
 
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