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Why didn't osama bin laden just hit Israel?

malcolmxwarrior said:
In my book it does.

Look, Anti means "against" right? And semite refers to the semitic peoples right?

So anybody that is "against" the "semitic" peoples is an "Anti-semite".

Sounds logical to me.
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Yes and "pro" means "for or in favour of" while "fane" means "temple or church" so clearly "profane" means "in favour of church"... oh wait...
 
Skeptic said:
Ah, if things were so simple.

As I repeatedly said, yes, there ARE Palestinians -- individual people -- who want peace. Quite a few of them in fact. I NEVER denied this. Read what I said carefully: I said THE Palestinians -- the people as a whole, the nation -- does not want peace.

I am not quibbling. I have made this very same distinction repeatedly, in many of my posts, because it's a crucial one. For example, it is quite possible, indeed certain, that there are many Palestinian people in Gaza who want peace. And yet Gaza -- the area, or city, or nation, or whatever you call it -- wants to destroy Israel. Because of their leadership and education and Arab "brothers" and numerous other reasons.

It is this -- that the Palestinians as a nation, or a people, want to destroy Israel -- that I am talking about. To give the most extreme example, the Germans, or Germany, or the German nation, wanted to kill all the Jews during WWII. This does not mean every individual German wanted to do this -- quite a few did not -- but that is irrelevant to the general conclusion.

So I am not by any means saying that all INDIVIDUAL Palestinians are bloodthirsty terrorists who want nothing but to kill the Jews. What I am saying is that this is irrelevant: THE Palestinians, or the Palestinian people, or the Palestinian nation as a whole, are like that, is beyond doubt, as the long history of the conflict proves, over and over again. They are, for instance, the only nation in the world whose #1 item in their Constitution is the urgent need to wipe another nation, Israel, off the face of the earth.
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The Hamas Charter is "their constitution"? Is that what you're referring to?
 
Israel definitely wants peace that is why they kill UN truck drivers and deny humanitarian supplies to children and why they use white phosphorous on the most dense population in the world. They slaughtered about 3000 people during Chanukah. That is **** up dude!

Israel's occupation of the west bank and gaza has lasted longer than the soviet unions occupation of easter europe. That is just atrocious. Israel is atrocious, the zionists are atrocious, the Israel lobby is atrocious and the neocons are atrocious.
 
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malcolmxwarrior said:
Israel definitely wants peace that is why they kill UN truck drivers and deny humanitarian supplies to children and why they use white phosphorous on the most dense population in the world. They slaughtered about 3000 people during Chanukah. That is **** up dude!

Israel's occupation of the west bank and gaza has lasted longer than the soviet unions occupation of easter europe. That is just atrocious. Israel is atrocious, the zionists are atrocious, the Israel lobby is atrocious and the neocons are atrocious.
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Nazi sympathizers and anti-Semites and racists are atrocious.

Anyone filled with hatred towards someone because of their religion or race or nationality or ethnicity is a coward.
 
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malcolmxwarrior said:
In my book it does.

Look, Anti means "against" right? And semite refers to the semitic peoples right?

So anybody that is "against" the "semitic" peoples is an "Anti-semite".

Sounds logical to me.
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I'm sure it does mean that in your book. The problem is that your book happens to be a pop-up book.
 
malcolmxwarrior said:
In my book it does.

Look, Anti means "against" right? And semite refers to the semitic peoples right?

So anybody that is "against" the "semitic" peoples is an "Anti-semite".

Sounds logical to me.
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so are you saying, that since my family comes from Russia and not the Middle East, and I am not a "Semite", therefore anti-Semitism cannot mean hatred of me...and you don't hate me?

I am a Jew by the way..so choose your answer carefully.
 
Actually I think malcolmxwarriors book is "The Protocols Of The Learned Elders of Zion".

I am distrubed by how some "progressives" seem to want to look the other way where Islamic Jihadism is concerned. I have no love for the Religious Right in the US whatsoever, but to say they are a danger and then deny that the Jihadists are is just plain crazy. Last time I looked Fundy Christians did not fly airliners into skyscrapers.

But agreed the malcolmxwarrior/TFT slap fight was enormously entertaining.
 
parky76 said:
Nazi sympathizers and anti-Semites and racists are atrocious.

Anyone filled with hatred towards someone because of their religion or race or nationality or ethnicity is a coward.
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I do not care what somebody does behind closed doors. They can worship roaches for all I care. I do have a problem with a small ruling elite that think I am their cattle and that they own me and wreak havoc and kill innocent people for no good reason. I DO have a problem with that.

I have a problem with people walking in raping my country and then brainwashing my all my friends in thinking that everything is ok. I do not love big brother and will NEVER love big brother. You will never get me to bow down to lucifer.

I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees as a slave.

This madness needs to stop or mankind is doomed. There is no future when this small minority impedes the progress of the human race.
 
dudalb said:
Actually I think malcolmxwarriors book is "The Protocols Of The Learned Elders of Zion".

I am distrubed by how some "progressives" seem to want to look the other way where Islamic Jihadism is concerned. I have no love for the Religious Right in the US whatsoever, but to say they are a danger and then deny that the Jihadists are is just plain crazy. Last time I looked Fundy Christians did not fly airliners into skyscrapers.

But agreed the malcolmxwarrior/TFT slap fight was enormously entertaining.
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No, but fundy christians support israel that is responsible for the USS liberty and the lavon affair, and Israel is a racist marxist apartheid state. They want armageddon. I DON'T. I want peace.

But because of the powers that be, whether they are jews, or the NWO, or the zionists, whatever you wanna call them, as long as these ruling families are in control, mankind is doomed. Period

Just because I point out the evil in the world, does not mean I don't want peace.
 
malcolmxwarrior said:
and Israel is a racist marxist apartheid state. .
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Israel allows private property and large capitalist corporations....last time I checked.

Marxist? Do you know what Marxism even means?

again, what is your solution to this problem caused by this pesky "minority"??
 
parky76 said:
I am a Jew by the way..so choose your answer carefully.
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Why must you use your ethnicity in this manner? It should matter what she/he says regardless of who she/he directs it to.

As for your statement here:

No. But they do invade and attack countries that never attacked us.
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I presume you are talking about Iraq. You would be on better ground to respond to dudalb's post with a mention of the crusades, rather than imply the recent venture into the Middle East. It was directed by a fairly fundy Christian, but he never used Christianity to justify the invasion. The opposite can be said for the Islamic hijackers, who carried out their attacks in the name of their God. This is the mistake people often make when tying Atheism to Stalin's atrocities. He was an Atheist, but he never used Atheism to justify his actions. It was incidental. You can't say that about 9/11 or the crusades.
 
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parky76 said:
who is this "small minority" you are refering to?

what is your solution to this problem?
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Small minority are frequently named "the jews" the "ruling families" the "banksters"" the powers that be", the "NWO", the" illuminati", the "zionist extremists" "the globalists"

My solution is to try them in court, and if they are found guilty by a jury of their peers, then they should be sent to a maximum security prison.

The same thing that we do with murderers, gang members, drug dealers, thieves, conspirators, fraud-sters today.

This solution will never happen I might add because we have already lost, but that is what you do. You put them in the court syste, just like we should with these detainees in gitmo. IF they are guilty, prison, if not, freedom. It's that simple.

If they go back to al quada, so what, that is why we spend billions upon billions of dollars for national defense.

WHen your home gets broken into you don't go up and down the neighborhood rounding up anybody you think is suspicious and putting them in a basement, of course not, you beef up your security you buy a gun, you get an alarm system.
 
parky76 said:
Israel allows private property and large capitalist corporations....last time I checked.

Marxist? Do you know what Marxism even means?

again, what is your solution to this problem caused by this pesky "minority"??
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What about the kibbutz? Aren't they marxist in nature? Don't they share everything?
 
What do you have against marxism?

You seem to be incoherently against just about everything/body.
How do you combine hate for capitalism with hate for marxism?
 
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