Wtc 7

[Disbelief]

I have read their lame excuses to try and justify the demolition of the building as fire induced. They fail at that horribly.

So, when did the perpetrators place the charges - before or after the collapse of the towers?

 

[bill smith]

Wtc7

If WTC7 WAS actually pre-rigged with explosives/incendiaries, does that tell us anything significant apart from the Twin Towers and WTC7 having something else in common other than the unexpected collapses ?. No ?. Well what did they have that was different ? The outstanding difference has to be that Seven was not hit by a plane.
Suppose you square the circle by speculating that WTC7 was SUPPOSED to have been hit by a plane but that it didn't happen for some reason. ?

 

[beachnut]

If WTC7 WAS actually pre-rigged with explosives/incendiaries, does that tell us anything significant apart from the Twin Towers and WTC7 having something else in common other than the unexpected collapses ?. No ?. Well what do they have that is different ? The outstanding difference has to be that Seven was not hit by a plane.
Suppose you square te circle by speculating that WTC7 was SUPPOSED to have been hit by a plane but that it didn't happen for some reason. ?

That sure is a dumb statement. You don’t understand 911 so you make up delusions about it. Why do you want to apologize for terrorist by making up lies?
The big difference is WTC7 burned for how long? With you vast lack of research and knowledge, an un-fought office building fire does what? Destroys the building. On 911 WTC7 fire systems had no water to fight the fire, the firemen had suffered many deaths, and they did not fight the fire in WTC7. Many building have been destroyed by fire, you choose to support the idiotic ideas of 911Truth instead of learning about structures, fires, and steel; you ignore evidence and skip finding knowledge. Good luck with your delusions as you disrespect everyone who died on 911 by making excuses for terrorists with not a single piece of evidence or from a position of knowledge. And you blame other people for the work of terrorist; you blame people you can’t name for what terrorists did. Good for you! You were the target of terrorist and now you gladly apologize for them.

No blast effect, no thermite products, no real clue from 911Truth with zero evidence a bleak future for the kool-aid drinking 911Truth believers.

Why do you lack evidence?

There comes a time when your apologizes for terrorist become betrayal – now.

 

[bill smith]

That sure is a dumb statement. You don’t understand 911 so you make up delusions about it. Why do you want to apologize for terrorist by making up lies?
The big difference is WTC7 burned for how long? With you vast lack of research and knowledge, an un-fought office building fire does what? Destroys the building. On 911 WTC7 fire systems had no water to fight the fire, the firemen had suffered many deaths, and they did not fight the fire in WTC7. Many building have been destroyed by fire, you choose to support the idiotic ideas of 911Truth instead of learning about structures, fires, and steel; you ignore evidence and skip finding knowledge. Good luck with your delusions as you disrespect everyone who died on 911 by making excuses for terrorists with not a single piece of evidence or from a position of knowledge. And you blame other people for the work of terrorist; you blame people you can’t name for what terrorists did. Good for you! You were the target of terrorist and now you gladly apologize for them.

No blast effect, no thermite products, no real clue from 911Truth with zero evidence a bleak future for the kool-aid drinking 911Truth believers.

Why do you lack evidence?

There comes a time when your apologizes for terrorist become betrayal – now.

There are some bits and pieces that support the notion of a third plane in New York on 9/11. Even the fact that the EOM in WTC7 was empty of people but had still steaming coffee and half-eaten sandwiches on the desks when Barry Jennings got there around 9 am may mean that the occupants rushed away thinking that the second plane was about to hit WTC7 nstead of the second Tower. People usually finish their coffee or sandwich even if they are in a hurry. This sounds more like a panic evcuation.

 

[tsig]

There are some bits and pieces that support the notion of a third plane in New York on 9/11. Even the fact that the EOM in WTC7 was empty of people but had still steaming coffee and half-eaten sandwiches on the desks when Barry Jennings got there around 9 am may mean that the occupants rushed away thinking that the second plane was about to hit WTC7 nstead of thee second Tower. People usually finish their coffee or sandwich even if they are in a hurry. This sounds more like a panic evcuation.

So some stale sandwiches and leftover coffee and we're off to the races reading peoples minds and understanding their motivations.

Do you do tea leafs too?

 

[bill smith]

So some stale sandwiches and leftover coffee and we're off to the races reading peoples minds and understanding their motivations.

Do you do tea leafs too?

No....the coffee and sandwiches were still fresh. Why would you say that they were stale ? What a peculiar thing to say. Coffee that still has steam coming off it is hot and fresh, so we can assume that the half-eaten sandwiches were just as fresh. Even if omebody has to run for a train or something they will usually finish their andwich on the hoof, but maybe not if they thought they were running for their life to escape a plane they had been told was about to crash into the building.

 

[johnny karate]

No they arent....

Otherwise why would trained and experienced firefighters be way up in a building and got caught(and died)fighting smallish fires.
If they had even a small inkling the building was going to come down, they would never had gone up there.......(WTC)

Interesting the roundhead acknowledges firefighter training and experience when it suits his argument, but will reject the fact that not a single firefighter on the scene at WTC7 supports the position that anything other than fire or damage caused that building to collapse.

I guess at WTC7 all that training and experience went out the window.

But then again, roundhead has characterized the FDNY as a bunch of cowards, so I'm not sure how much credence we should give his opinions on firefighters.

 

[funk de fino]

No....the coffee and sandwiches were still fresh. Why would you say that they were stale ? What a peculiar thing to say. Coffee that still has steam coming off it hot and fresh, so we can asume that the half-eaten sandwiches were just as fresh. Even if omebody has to run for a train or something they will usually finish their andwich on the hoof, but maybe not if they thought they were running for their life to escape a plane they had been told was about to crash into the building.

There were warnings more planes were in the air. Proves nothing though.

 

[bill smith]

There were warnings more planes were in the air. Proves nothing though.

I didn't say it did. Speculation....remember ? But just think how neat it could all have been ? Three buildings , three planes and no messing about like being unexpectedly forced nto perfrming a controlled demolition of WTC7....and making such a mess of it that it's still likely to hang the perpetrators of 9/11.

 

[bill smith]

This video opens with a smoke generator that was caught on video in WTC2 I believe. The video moves on through all three collapses ending with the demise of WTC7. Note that when Seven collapses a crack appears momentarily on the North face running vertically for many floors. This looks exactly as if a portion of the support structure inside did not fall away or burn through quite quickly enough causing the crack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY all 3 buildings

 

[BigAl]

I didn't say it did. Speculation....remember ? But just think how neat it could all have been ? Three buildings , three planes and no messing about like being unexpectedly forced nto perfrming a controlled demolition of WTC7....and making such a mess of it that it's still likely to hang the perpetrators of 9/11.

There is speculation informed by facts and science. Then there is stupid, baseless, made-up ◊◊◊◊. Guess which category your rants fall all into.

 

[tsig]

No....the coffee and sandwiches were still fresh. Why would you say that they were stale ? What a peculiar thing to say. Coffee that still has steam coming off it is hot and fresh, so we can assume that the half-eaten sandwiches were just as fresh. Even if omebody has to run for a train or something they will usually finish their andwich on the hoof, but maybe not if they thought they were running for their life to escape a plane they had been told was about to crash into the building.

I find it odd that you can tell their motivation by the food they left behind.

Who told them the plane was coming? Has anyone ever said they were told a plane was coming?

You are building sand castles without sand.

 

[A W Smith]

Coffee Cups and sandwiches and the delusiuons of Troofer Morons

Sometimes when I leave the house I forget to grab my coffee travel mug and leave it on the top of the newell post of the stairs. This alarms my wife when she gets home because clearly that must mean theres a plane gonna hit my house while im hiding at work.

 

[tfk]

I am not sure if you guys caught this obscure comment, but...

This video opens with a smoke generator that was caught on video in WTC2 I believe. The video moves on through all three collapses ending with the demise of WTC7.
<snip>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY all 3 buildings

... billy really believes that some nefarious person actually moved smoke generating machines into various locations. Especially into WTC7.

This is all self-evident to him. Somehow. And backed up with all the rigor & objective evidence that was demonstrated in his "If WTC7 was pre-rigged with explosives ..." question.

He's ever so insightful ...

tom

 

[twinstead]

bill smith are you for real? I suspect you're actually on our side on this issue. Nobody could do a better job of making the truth movement look like idiots. In fact, I think you're Harry from accounting down the hallway from my office here at NWO towers. Harry? Is that you? If it is just poke your head above your cubicle. You're BRILLIANT!

 

[funk de fino]

I didn't say it did. Speculation....remember ? But just think how neat it could all have been ? Three buildings , three planes and no messing about like being unexpectedly forced nto perfrming a controlled demolition of WTC7....and making such a mess of it that it's still likely to hang the perpetrators of 9/11.

Speculate away, its all you've got. Sucks eh?

 

[funk de fino]

This video opens with a smoke generator that was caught on video in WTC2 I believe. The video moves on through all three collapses ending with the demise of WTC7. Note that when Seven collapses a crack appears momentarily on the North face running vertically for many floors. This looks exactly as if a portion of the support structure inside did not fall away or burn through quite quickly enough causing the crack.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY all 3 buildings

Not a smoke generator, get real.

Also some very good footage of the core still standing in the second collapse (about 2:38). yet another nail in the CD fantasy. Well done for posting that Bill.

ETA The crack in WTC7 is the windows popping out.

 

[bill smith]

I am not sure if you guys caught this obscure comment, but...



... billy really believes that some nefarious person actually moved smoke generating machines into various locations. Especially into WTC7.

This is all self-evident to him. Somehow. And backed up with all the rigor & objective evidence that was demonstrated in his "If WTC7 was pre-rigged with explosives ..." question.

He's ever so insightful ...

tom

Hello there

Remember elsewhere that you said that he smoke did not come from either a smoke generator or from a burst pipe ? I've forgotten the reason that you DID give so would you mind explaining again where the smoke was coming from ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY All three Towers

 

[DGM]

bill smith are you for real? I suspect you're actually on our side on this issue. Nobody could do a better job of making the truth movement look like idiots. In fact, I think you're Harry from accounting down the hallway from my office here at NWO towers. Harry? Is that you? If it is just poke your head above your cubicle. You're BRILLIANT!

I agree with you! He expects us to forget that there was a 6 storey complex underground that would funnel smoke all kinds of places. This one has to be a "dis-creditor".

 

[BigAl]

Hello there

Remember elsewhere that you said that he smoke did not come from either a smoke generator or from a burst pipe ? I've forgotten the reason that you DID give so would you mind explaining again where the smoke was coming from ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lrTy5mrZY All three Towers

Buildings full of smoke and dust collapsed.

Nobody heard any man-made demolition.

None of the smoke appeared until after a collapse commenced. That's not how man-made demolition works.