Merged Abolute proof UAL 175 never struck WTC tower 2

[JSSTyger]

beachnut
If you had been an aircraft accident investigator, or an experienced pilot you would know they tape the RADAR information to reconstruct the aircraft tracks, and you would also know the tripe you presented

was forecasted track information, not actual data

So forecasted data predicted the 'hijack' of the aircraft, it's diversion from it's official flight path, it's abrupt turns and almost managed to make it hit WTC 2, but not quite. It missed and went merrily on it's way...lol.
The data is supplied by FAA amongst others. It is not predicted dat in the slightes. The only 'prediction' is partial update between position updates. Now every minute, but 'up to' 3 minutes in 2001.

. Your lack of knowledge must be the reason you are making delusional claims.

 

[JSSTyger]

The radar image is great. It proves an object hit the Pentagon.

 

[applecorped]

Unfortunately for them, the internet only holds little specs of Pyrite.

TAM

Is that a type of thermite?

 

[beachnut]

beachnut
If you had been an aircraft accident investigator, or an experienced pilot you would know they tape the RADAR information to reconstruct the aircraft tracks, and you would also know the tripe you presented

was forecasted track information, not actual data

So forecasted data predicted the 'hijack' of the aircraft, it's diversion from it's official flight path, it's abrupt turns and almost managed to make it hit WTC 2, but not quite. It missed and went merrily on it's way...lol.
The data is supplied by FAA amongst others. It is not predicted dat in the slightes. The only 'prediction' is partial update between position updates. Now every minute, but 'up to' 3 minutes in 2001.

. Your lack of knowledge must be the reason you are making delusional claims.

Good job plagiarizing. Too bad it applies to your failed ideas on 911.


Oops, I was trained by the USAF to be an aircraft accident investigator, and I am an experienced pilot with over 4000 hours in heavy jets. I have investigated aircraft accidents, and I clearly see you lack knowledge on 911 issues.

 

[Homeland Insurgency]

Oh all this nonsense makes me bored.

When will one of the intellectual giants around here give even a half decent reason why none of the flights on 9/11 ended with the same transponder code as it started out with?

First they'll tell you that the transponder isn't needed to track the plane. Even when some of the ATC thought flight 77 was a military flight from the speed and maneuvers it was preforming.

Then they'll tell you that the genius hijackers turned them off or changed them to stop from being tracked.

Which is it? If it isn't needed then why did they bother? Why didn't the ATC know what they were looking at?

Then the debunkers will tell you that all the planes were identified. Some will even tell you the planes were identified by the DNA of passengers.

Planes are identified by DNA? Is this usually how it's done?

And then when you ask them for some serial numbers or maintenance records well... again they have nothing.

Nothing but their faith.

yawn

 

[BCR]

Okay, here is your mysterious UAL175. Now here is the radar data from ALL of the ARSR antennas in the area for 14:00 to 14:30 (GMT). This covers the period from the collapse of the first tower until the second. Now show me the plane on radar.

Have a nice day and thanks for playing.

 

[332nd]

I really think this is solid evidence.

What do you plan on doing with this "solid evidence" JSSTyger?

 

[BCR]

JREF is such a biased site. There have been a few legit posts...but mostly just A-holes who get perturbed that a truther has infiltrated their lair. Its really sad. I have to wonder how many of you actually took the time to analyze the video in the first post. Its just extremely odd how coincidental everything is and nothing clicks in your brains. Bunch of drones...

Pot calling kettle black. You present a video with something you don't understand and I post real data from multiple sources. I'll base my opinion on data and you can base yours on cartoons.

Might I also add that I have spent months exhaustively studying the variance of each ARSR site and actually have communicated with the staff at 84 RADES on multiple occassions to resolve any anomalies. How many times have you communicated with Flight Explorer?

 

[The Big Dog]

Alot of you were calling me a kook because you were saying the Flight Explorer data may have been a projected data for UAL flight 175.

I am here to prove this wrong.

In the very same video I showed yesterday, one of the planes still hovering over the WTC has a United tag as well. The orientation of that "stuck" plane is Northwest (well the plane was more due north...I think)...the orientation of the plane that hit tower 2. The elevation of that plane that is "stuck" over the WTC is about 700 feet. Thats about half the WTC height...seems about right.

You were all just looking at the flight near the Connecticut border which clearly labels itself as flight 175 with all the departure, arrival, serial number, etc info that we know is indeed flight 175's.

So indeed the plane that is shown heading NE is NOT the plane that hit the tower. The limitations of the program and lags, amount of info not given us, really does not matter.

So again I ask you to watch this video and hopefully the responses will not be as ummm...like they were last night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UuH6D4pob8

The truthers don't know how Flight Explorer works, don't know what happens if the data is interrupted, don't know whether the video tape showing Flight Explorer was live or not, and assuming it was live don't know what the data on the screen was showing, have no idea what the margin of error was, and have not talked to Flight Explorer and have no intention of doing so.


I told you that you have no freaking idea what you are talking about. Clue, moron: the Flight Explorer Data does not show the plane in the air. It shows a computer simulation of the last projected location of the plane. The location your idiot video shows is the same exact freaking location that Flight Explorer put it an hour earlier.

Further, that freaking cartoon shows a plane as large as New York City, making instantaneous 160 degree turns. That cartoon is as authoritative as a TV map showing a 500 foot wide car blocking the highway in the TV traffic update on Circle and the Jerks Morning TV Crew, starring Homeland Insurgency as Snarky the freaking Clown.

Unbelievable

 

[jaydeehess]

JREF is such a biased site. There have been a few legit posts......

Yet you have failed to address the 'legit' responses.

Please tell us what a Boeing 762 is for one thing.

 

[Trojan]

OK genius...fine...you are right that its based on flight plans. But this flight plan was updated post impact time...well holy cow...there are two planes surrounding the WTC post impact time....were they still scheduled to be flying near Manhattan when F-16's were in the area? I don't think so. The two planes shown are the downed aircraft.

If you admit its based on flight plans, them what do you think happened?

Doesn't this end the argument for you?

 

[JSSTyger]

Good job plagiarizing. Too bad it applies to your failed ideas on 911.


Oops, I was trained by the USAF to be an aircraft accident investigator, and I am an experienced pilot with over 4000 hours in heavy jets. I have investigated aircraft accidents, and I clearly see you lack knowledge on 911 issues.

To be fair, not you or anyone has shown that the video I showed is illegit. Alot of "well it could be this..." ...Alot of 1/100 chance BS...not alot of real sense. Good lord...all the coincidences.

You are a pilot? Hmmm...what are your thoughts on an airplanes wings' ability to sever multiple steel columns before breaking off? I've always wanted to see somebody run this test...at high speed...I wonder. I've seen something similar attempted at low speeds and the plane didn't really do much.

 

[BCR]

To be fair, not you or anyone has shown that the video I showed is illegit. Alot of "well it could be this..." ...Alot of 1/100 chance BS...not alot of real sense. Good lord...all the coincidences.

You really are dense aren't you...I did show you that with the actual RADAR data.

 

[JSSTyger]

If you admit its based on flight plans, them what do you think happened?

Doesn't this end the argument for you?

No...because the flightplan it is showing was updated post-crash...as evidenced by two planes sitting right where the towers are and also evidenced by the fact the FAA was grounding planes.

Trojan...if you will be understanding...unlike some of these people...do you not think its a bit funny the flight heading NW (at the WTC) has all the data of the plane that crashed? I mean elevation and orientation and such. And then you have another jet with flight 175's real serial number, departure info, arrival info, etc, etc going off into the wild blue yonder. This is a very strange F up by the FAA...no??! God we are assuming complete and utter incompetence now by nearly every gd federal agency!! Forgive me for not buying this!!

 

[The Big Dog]

Yet you have failed to address the 'legit' responses.

Please tell us what a Boeing 762 is for one thing.

Boeing 767-200.

according to Flight Explorer.

 

[BCR]

Oh I see, we are going to keep arguing over the cartoon and not reality.

 

[Drudgewire]

Can't waste my time ya know? The evidence is out there. Watch it. I could care less what conclusion you come to...it "should" be obvious...

Ehhh...BYE

Way to stick to your guns, tiger.

 

[The Big Dog]

No...because the flightplan it is showing was updated post-crash...as evidenced by two planes sitting right where the towers are and also evidenced by the fact the FAA was grounding planes.

Trojan...if you will be understanding...unlike some of these people...do you not think its a bit funny the flight heading NW (at the WTC) has all the data of the plane that crashed? I mean elevation and orientation and such. And then you have another jet with flight 175's real serial number, departure info, arrival info, etc, etc going off into the wild blue yonder. This is a very strange F up by the FAA...no??! God we are assuming complete and utter incompetence now by nearly every gd federal agency!! Forgive me for not buying this!!

Of course you are not buying it.

You don't know how Flight Explorer works.

You are ignorant and making an ass out of yourself.

Last time: flight explorer is a computer simulation. According to your theory, that computer simulation showed the plane hanging in that same exact projected spot for at least an hour.

What did Flight Explorer say when you called them about the magical hanging airplanes????

It is a freaking cartoon.

 

[JSSTyger]

And the 16.5 guy just loves talking about this data interruption. I guess data interruption just throws everything into complete disarray. Provide a link on this BS jr or hit the road.

 

[BCR]

Back yourself up

I did that for him tiger...scroll back up and look at reality, ARSR data.

(Whoops, I'm sorry. You do know what an ARSR is don't you?)