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Merged Abolute proof UAL 175 never struck WTC tower 2

Yes I read this. But I don't understand how the FAA can be plotting a projected position heading NE when the last known orientation was SW before the transponder was (supposedly) turned off. Trust me I'm looking into this flight explorer thing but I have severe doubts it would be plotting much anything like this. Of course this is assuming flight explorer is indeed dependent on a flights transponder as one of your "hardcore debunkers" here has said. But that would not make sense.

I think you people are really really reaching. Again we have the 1/100 chance thing. Think how much easier the explanation would be if you just admit flight 175 is still there. The plane that crashed wasn't flight 175 and there was no 1/100 coincidence. Its so easy understanding the world when you look at whats happening from truther eyes. You don't ponder why the economy is going to **** and why we are still in Iraq. You know.
 
JSS has obviously been brushing up on his Truther Manual, as he is following to a t,

Griffin's (David Ray) Law:

When analyzing a 9/11 anomaly, the most complex answer is the "truth".

TAM:)

Edit: Griffin's Law is also know as Upside Down Occam Cake.
 
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I had to troll

98% of people on JREF forums are pro-official account. One thread simply isn't enough.
First, no one has to troll. You could have set a trot line or a limb line.

Second, of course we're pros. Do you think amateurs can look as good as I do? And who is this official accountant? I'd like a word with him. My paycheck was short again last week. Again.
 
First, no one has to troll. You could have set a trot line or a limb line.

Second, of course we're pros. Do you think amateurs can look as good as I do? And who is this official accountant? I'd like a word with him. My paycheck was short again last week. Again.

The debunking boots, fishnets and that extra jelly donut put you over your approved NWO credit line. Take it up with The Owl.
 
Think how much easier the explanation would be if you just admit flight 175 is still there.


Is that really your criteria for establishing the truth; what's "easy"?

Its so easy understanding the world when you look at whats happening from truther eyes. You don't ponder why the economy is going to **** and why we are still in Iraq. You know.


Wooooooowwwwwww....
 
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Everyone is misreading the title, he says there is "Abolute" proof. I believe that means there is no proof, but I'm not taking any chances, I'm turning on the news, this could be big.
 
Yes I read this. But I don't understand how the FAA can be plotting a projected position heading NE when the last known orientation was SW before the transponder was (supposedly) turned off. Trust me I'm looking into this flight explorer thing but I have severe doubts it would be plotting much anything like this. Of course this is assuming flight explorer is indeed dependent on a flights transponder as one of your "hardcore debunkers" here has said. But that would not make sense.

I think you people are really really reaching. Again we have the 1/100 chance thing. Think how much easier the explanation would be if you just admit flight 175 is still there. The plane that crashed wasn't flight 175 and there was no 1/100 coincidence. Its so easy understanding the world when you look at whats happening from truther eyes. You don't ponder why the economy is going to **** and why we are still in Iraq. You know.

Did you not look at the link I provided??? It shows the entire flight path and the planes end up exactly where the video shows them what you claim is an hour later!!!

Why? You don't know! You don't know how flight explorer works, where it gets its data and what happens when that data is interrupted.

Look at my link and it shows the plane approaching from the SW and traveling NW. This video was debunked by flight explorers own data three hours ago.

Do your homework
 
Is that really your criteria for establishing the truth; what's "easy"?

He thinks it is the easiest...because on the surface that would appear so. But in reality, the implication of his suggestion is the most complex.

Here are two choices:

(A) The appearance of the icon we saw was due to a projected path for UA175 before the software was updated with the crash data (termination of flight I guess).

OR

(B) The appearance of the icon, on national TV, being manipulated by announcers, and being witnessed by the shows producers, and entire crew, was actually showing that UA175 had not crashed and was instead on route back to Logan to land...proof positive that the crash witnessed by hundred live at or near GZ, and by millions on TV, was an elaborate hoax, using CGI and other new sekrit technologies. Yet no one in the studio picked up on it. No one but some investigoogler 7 years later.

Griffin's (David Ray) Law!

TAM:)
 
I am pretty good actually. Better than you because if what you say is true than this flights data would not be showing on the screen because its transponder was off (blown to bits). And it would not be shown near the Conn. border either.

The first law of Trutherdynamics:

"Ignorance + Internet = Never ending Hilarity".

Add in a heaping helping of arrogance and hubris, plus a dash of expletives deleted and you have a formula for idiocy.
 
I think you people are really really reaching. Again we have the 1/100 chance thing. Think how much easier the explanation would be if you just admit flight 175 is still there. The plane that crashed wasn't flight 175 and there was no 1/100 coincidence. Its so easy understanding the world when you look at whats happening from truther eyes. You don't ponder why the economy is going to **** and why we are still in Iraq. You know.

Easier? You do realize that if you're right and flight 175 was still there that means that the evil government behind the attacks planned out all of this but just happened to overlook this tracking system. Rats! Ok, now they have to figure out what to do with the real passengers from 175 and what to tell their families. Ok they make up a story and the families buy it. Now they have to figure out what to do with the real 175 while hoping that no one from the FAA notices that after it was reported they lost 175's signal, they suddenly reaquired it and it was heading back to Boston. Whew! None of the ATC's noticed! Ok, time to land the plane somewhere where no one will notice the tail number andthen hopefully the passengers didn't know what their flight number was.

Or...

You are mistaken in your interpatation of a tracking program you seem to have very little familiarity with....

I'm gonna go with the latter.
 
Okay, JSS, let me see if I have this straight. On-air, MSNBC shows data from a third-party website that gets its data from FAA that shows United 175 still in the air. So that's 100% truthful and can be held up as absolute proof. However, the live pictures of United 175 crashing into the South Tower, which were shown on multiple channels worldwide, including MSNBC... that's all fake.
So MSNBC lied, lied, lied, all day long... except for this period of a few minutes where they slipped up and accidentally told the truth... and they hoped no one noticed? Including their nWo masters? They would have gotten away with it too... if it weren't for you meddling no-planers!

Am I in the right ballpark, or do I have it totally wrong?
 
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He thinks it is the easiest...because on the surface that would appear so. But in reality, the implication of his suggestion is the most complex.


Oh, I absolutely agree...

Basically, what you said: The "debunker argument" may involve conditions A, B, C, and D to reach a conclusion at E. However, the "truther argument" seems to involve conditions A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, and K to reach a conclusion at L. The truther points to condition A and then the conclusion at L and screams, "Simpler!"

They clearly do not put much thought into their proposed "hypothesis". When they do, they naturally weave this insane web.
 
Easier? You do realize that if you're right and flight 175 was still there that means that the evil government behind the attacks planned out all of this but just happened to overlook this tracking system. Rats! Ok, now they have to figure out what to do with the real passengers from 175 and what to tell their families. Ok they make up a story and the families buy it. Now they have to figure out what to do with the real 175 while hoping that no one from the FAA notices that after it was reported they lost 175's signal, they suddenly reaquired it and it was heading back to Boston. Whew! None of the ATC's noticed! Ok, time to land the plane somewhere where no one will notice the tail number andthen hopefully the passengers didn't know what their flight number was.

Or...

You are mistaken in your interpatation of a tracking program you seem to have very little familiarity with....

I'm gonna go with the latter.

No, no, NO!!!11! You didn't look at the scenario from "whats happening from truther eyes"!!1! No wonder you all look so silly.
 

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