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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC said:
More attack the messenger in hopes of influencing people's opinion of the message. Even if what you said is true (and it's not). It doesn't affect the message in my posts. Classic ad hom.
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Ah, so your comments regarding my alleged cannibalistic Polynesian ancestors has nothing to do with you trying to influence people regarding my messages. Got it.

And your comment I had hours to think about speaking in tongues is ridiculous. You're the one who brought up speaking in tongues at 9:35, my final edit (of which there was 2) was at 10:45.
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DOC, hyperbole. Hyperbole, DOC. Perchance you haven't met?

And also during that time I was responding and doing research on exorcism, in responding to another post.
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Looking up demonic possession on Wiki takes an hour? OK.

I got the info about speaking in tongues and Pentecost not from your post or Acts but from this site:

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Really? So the original source isn't good enough? I wonder why they even bother printing bibles. No one seems to read them.

Apologies will be accepted.
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Some evidence that the New Testament writers told the truth would be on topic.
 
Does being a dishonest liar who gives Christianity a bad name equate with being demon possessed?
 
paximperium said:
Does being a dishonest liar who gives Christianity a bad name equate with being demon possessed?
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Of course this post is against the rules, which I believe the moderator Tricky already warned you about in this thread.
 
Hokulele said:
Well, you certainly used this topic {exorcism} to divert the conversation from your lack of evidence that the New Testament writers told the truth.
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The fact that the Catholic Church feels it is still necessary to perform exorcisms and some parents (if not the person themselves) are agreeing to let this procedure be done on their child (after much medical testing) is evidence that when the NT writers reported on Jesus casting out demonic spirits they might have been telling the truth.
 
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ETA: Although some people say that when the apostles began speaking in tongues at Pentecost they actually were speaking in other foreign languages (they supernaturally received) that foreigners who were present understood and were converted as a result.
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"Some people"? It says so in the bible. Do you doubt it?


DOC said:
I think this talk about exorcism is uncomfortable for some people and they're trying to divert the focus to the messenger instead of the message.
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Again, as with souls, the discomfort is entirely with you. There's as much evidence for demonic possession as for souls, unicorns and god.

If a messenger is consistently unreliable, it would damage the credibility of anything they have to say.
 
DOC said:
The fact that the Catholic Church feels it is still necessary to perform exorcisms and some parents are agreeing to let this procedure be done on their child
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What a nonsensical Non-sequitur. What a bunch of delusional nuts do is irrelevant to reality.

This is the best reason and example of why such backward dark age mindset need to be stamped out. People often ask what is the harm, this is the perfect example. This mindless and ignorant mindset harms children and prevents them from getting appropriate care.
(after much medical testing) is evidence that when the NT writers reported on Jesus casting out demonic spirits they might have been telling the truth.
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Or they may have been completely and utterly wrong and harming people.
 
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The fact that the Catholic Church feels it is still necessary to perform exorcisms and some parents are agreeing to let this procedure be done on their child (after much medical testing) is evidence that when the NT writers reported on Jesus casting out demonic spirits they might have been telling the truth.
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No it isn't.
 
paximperium said:
This is the best reason and example of why such backward dark age mindset need to be stamped out. People often ask what is the harm, this is the perfect example. This mindless and ignorant mindset harms children and prevents them from getting appropriate care.
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You forget that the Church only does this after much medical testing has exhausted all possibilities and other criteria is met. And I assume you want to take away the parents (if not the effected person's) own right to freedom of religion.
 
DOC said:
The fact that the Catholic Church feels it is still necessary to perform exorcisms and some parents are agreeing to let this procedure be done on their child (after much medical testing) is evidence that when the NT writers reported on Jesus casting out demonic spirits they might have been telling the truth.
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This is evidence in the same manner as your evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.
 
DOC said:
You forget that the Church only does this after much medical testing has exhausted all possibilities and other criteria is met.
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So what? Useless and harmful is still useless and harmful.
And I assume you want to take away the parents (if not the effected person's) own right to freedom of religion.
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Not one bit. I want to make fun and ridicule this absurd and stupid practice into extinction so that anyone would be ashamed to perform magic on their children.
 
DOC said:
If you read post 13, you will see my and answers.com definition of evidence.
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For anyone too bored to bother:
DOC said:
Here is the first definition of evidence according to answers.com:

"A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment"

The things posted in my first post are helpful in my forming a judgment that the NT writers were telling the truth.

And the more evidence we have that the NT authors were telling the truth, the more likely it is that the Resurrection was true.
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Of course Geisler's crap and all the heresay presented by DOC is the opposite of that definition since it obfuscates and is definately not useful.
 
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I want to make fun and ridicule this absurd and stupid practice into extinction so that anyone would be ashamed to perform magic on their children.
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So it is your opinion that praying, which is done at exorcisms, and done daily by George Washington, is a form of magic.
 
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DOC said:
So it is your opinion that praying, which is done at exorcisms, and done daily by George Washington are a form of magic.
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As a one-time pray-er, from a family and culture of pray-ers, I reckon that praying is nothing more than wishful thinking

Remember the Jug of Milk, DOC?
 
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