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The PG Film - Bob Heironimus and Patty

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Nice one. To tell you the truth, romney fits in the suit better than sideshow bob.

I have also exposed the red panda effect: The reason why people reported the panda is because....THEY WERE TOLD TO

That's enough for me.

At first I thought Mak was challenged but now I have no doubt he's a 16 year old troll.
 
That's enough for me.

At first I thought Mak was challenged but now I have no doubt he's a 16 year old troll.

Dude! Crazy Sasquatch! What the hell, man?? Look, little mak is not a 16 year old troll, OK? He's just not so stop saying that. *pfpfpffft*[NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE]GOD![/NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE]

He's 18.
 
Bump for SweatyYeti. It is my opinion that SweatyYeti is afraid to answer the questions in post #817. I think it is very easy to target what Sweaty fears and show his intellectual dishonesty. If he was really interested in the truth as he claims, he would have earnestly tackled these questions and would need no coaxing to do so.
 
Dude! Crazy Sasquatch! What the hell, man?? Look, little mak is not a 16 year old troll, OK? He's just not so stop saying that. *pfpfpffft*[NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE]GOD![/NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE]

He's 18.

He SAYS he's 18. For now, I remain unconvinced, and honestly, I hope he really is younger.
 
Bump for SweatyYeti. It is my opinion that SweatyYeti is afraid to answer the questions in post #817.


I've already posted multiple comparisons of Bob and Patty which show quite clearly that Bob's body dimensions (chest width and arm length, mainly) are well short of Patty's body dimensions...in these posts...(with lots of pretty graphics)...

119, 121, 122, 131, 141, 148, 152.....and another comparison involving the sizes of their heads, in post #699.

As far as I'm concerned...Bob's 'Boat' is resting comfortably on the bottom of the Deep Blue Sea.....and NO amount of padding will ever get it to float to the surface.

In fact....I think a heavily padded upper-body suit, simulating Patty's extreme chest/shoulder width will actually help to push it a little further down into the murky bottom.


If he was really interested in the truth as he claims, he would have earnestly tackled these questions and would need no coaxing to do so.


If I was really interested in the truth....I would have posted this, which I actually did, earlier today.....on a board where people have a little more interest in the truth, than on this board...

http://www.mid-americabigfoot.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=8982&start=60


........he would have earnestly tackled these questions and would need no coaxing to do so.



I'll post when....and where I feel like posting, kitty.....and to what I have both the time and the interest to respond to.....................and not to what you determine I should respond to, and 'when' I should respond to it.
 
I've already posted multiple comparisons of Bob and Patty which show quite clearly that Bob's body dimensions (chest width and arm length, mainly) are well short of Patty's body dimensions...in these posts...(with lots of pretty graphics)...

119, 121, 122, 131, 141, 148, 152.....and another comparison involving the sizes of their heads, in post #699.

As far as I'm concerned...Bob's 'Boat' is resting comfortably on the bottom of the Deep Blue Sea.....and NO amount of padding will ever get it to float to the surface.

In fact....I think a heavily padded upper-body suit, simulating Patty's extreme chest/shoulder width will actually help to push it a little further down into the murky bottom.





If I was really interested in the truth....I would have posted this, which I actually did, earlier today.....on a board where people have a little more interest in the truth, than on this board...

http://www.mid-americabigfoot.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=8982&start=60


I'll post when....and where I feel like posting, kitty.....and to what I have both the time and the interest to respond to.....................and not to what you determine I should respond to, and 'when' I should respond to it.

Is this what you're bragging about?

You were wise in not posting such an inaccurate analysis here.
 

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Dude! Crazy Sasquatch! What the hell, man?? Look, little mak is not a 16 year old troll, OK? He's just not so stop saying that. *pfpfpffft*[NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE]GOD![/NAPOLEAN DYNAMITE]

He's 18.

Has he actually shown evidence of that? Anymore than he's show evidence of anything else he's said?
 
As far as I'm concerned...Bob's 'Boat' is resting comfortably on the bottom of the Deep Blue Sea.....and NO amount of padding will ever get it to float to the surface.
Well, surprise, surprise. Sweaty has failed to answer even the most basic questions in post #817. This is exactly as I predicted. Yes, fear is the mind killer and Sweaty demonstrates his fear so ver, very clearly.

I love it! Sweaty, who will will whine and pout when someone has not answered a question exactly in the manner he prefers, had to put that post together knowing he was going to be called on his failure. We can se how uncomfortable those ridiculously easy questions make Sweaty. Any person with any real interest in the truth would have nothing to fear in answering them. If Sweaty was so confident about the case against Bob he surely would.

It's an excellent display of intellectual cowardice for all to see.

If I was really interested in the truth....I would have posted this, which I actually did, earlier today.....on a board where people have a little more interest in the truth, than on this board...


http://www.mid-americabigfoot.com/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=8982&start=60

Why, how very fortunate of you to bring that up. You see, Sweaty, in the thread about Eugenie Scott's lecture, which is fabulous and I really can't emphasize how the reality-retarded such as yourself really do need to sit down and watch that, I made a rather lengthy post about you and those like you. In that post I brought up those people that you mention and your true or untrue adherence to the responsibility we humans have to Bigfoot as a species as you spoke about. I made a point of asking some questions about you and that group which I predicted you would not be able to handle. The fact is that I've gotten rather skilled at knowing exactly which questions you can't handle and illustrating your real lack of sincerity in the pursuit of truth. Here's those questions:

"And here's the part where you ask Sweaty some questions that you know he's going to shriek at and run away from like a scared terrier.

Sweaty, what do you think is the probability that darkwing and other key members of the MABRC are actually routinely encountering Bigfoot? What do you think is the probability that darkwing has in fact seen a clan of Bigfoots crossing a field? Why haven't you made moves to become involved in their studies?

*cocks head, listens for scream*""


http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=4493911#post4493911

Like we've told you before, ol' Sweat, you should've been in politics.
 
What is amazing, is that Patty is the only mammal that I can think of that has muscles that do not taper down to the bone above the ankle, but rather taper down like a pair of pants.

Perhaps, Patty put on a pair of fur pants before this was filmed as part of a bigfoot cultural device?!?!?!
 
Sweaty, really now, the latest diagram analysis you have referred to shows an abbreviated line at the height you suppose patty's head would be, if lifted. I know nothing about bigfoots ( which makes me as expert as anyone) but a telescopic neck? did I miss that revelation.
 
Sweaty, really now, the latest diagram analysis you have referred to shows an abbreviated line at the height you suppose patty's head would be, if lifted.
I know nothing about bigfoots ( which makes me as expert as anyone) but a telescopic neck? did I miss that revelation.



That wasn't my analysis, learner.....and it wasn't the analysis I "refered to" in my post to kitakaze.

You're wrong on 2 counts.


As a matter of fact....this was my response to it....disagreeing with Jack's estimate of the amount Patty's height would rise....(I put it in larger lettering, just for you, like a first-grader's book...:)...since apparently you have trouble reading)...


That's true....there is no one single 'pivot point'.

Basically, my thinking is that Patty's body has so much front-to-back depth, and appears to have a very large amount of muscle around the back of the neck, and shoulder area....along with a very forward-projecting neck/head......that I doubt she could straighten-up very much from the posture she has...(from the top of her back to the base of her skull, that is)...



Perhaps you should learn how to be a better reader, learner. ;)
 
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Well, surprise, surprise. Sweaty has failed to answer even the most basic questions in post #817. This is exactly as I predicted. Yes, fear is the mind killer and Sweaty demonstrates his fear so ver, very clearly.


kitty, you are a troubled little pup.

I provided post numbers which explain....with the help of direct comparisons of Patty and Bob....exactly why I put NO credence in Bob's multiple, conflicting stories.

Nonetheless, I will answer your questions in post #817.
I'll respond to what I feel is necessary, to defend myself against your false accusations, and misrepresentations of my thinking, and my analysis.


Here are your questions...

We have direct proof of Bob Heironimus' participation in Roger Patterson's Bigfoot escapades.
Why have you said nothing about that? Are you afraid? Are you attempting to obscure the truth?


First...I need specific information on what you mean by "participation in Roger Patterson's Bigfoot escapades."

Can you provide some post numbers, that contain some of the 'specifics'?

Also, 'escapades' is a meaningless term in any careful, thoughtful, and meaningful analysis of the evidence. It's characterizing a group of things together, possibly in a negative light......when every single piece of evidence should be looked at in it's own light.

Logically...since the term 'escapades' has no meaning, or value (in analysis)....the statement you used it in also has neither meaning, nor value.

If you want to ask specific questions, about specific events Bob participated in....feel free to do so.


Bob Heironimus' claim has a better probability of being true based on that information, does it not? Yes or no, Sweaty. Answer the question.


Bob's claim....in light of the comparisons between Bob and Patty....has only a very slim 'degree of probability' of being true.

To answer your question....Yes, being 'involved' with Roger would make Bob a 'more likely' candidate to be involved in a hoax with Roger, than most other people....I would agree with that.

Again, though...what specific information are you refering to?



How many of those other friends claimed to have been Patty, appear on Bigfoot-related film and photos posing with and made by Roger Patterson..


None have claimed to be Patty, as far as I know.
But that fact does nothing to cure Bob's other "ills"....as seen in the direct comparisons of Bob and Patty, which I have provided post numbers to.

As for how many other friends have appeared on Bigfoot-related films with Roger.....I don't know how many have.


and lives 9 houses from Gimlin on the same street and a few blocks from the Patterson residence??


I agree kitty...Bob would be the only person who lives 9 houses down from Bob Gimlin....unless, of course, there are 9 houses on the same street, going in both directions from Gimlin's house. If that is the case...then there is actually 1 other guy living 9 houses away from Bob Gimlin. That doesn't mean that particular guy has an equal chance of being Patty....mind you....but it is something to consider...:boggled:.

But, again....9, 10, or 11 houses....it doesn't matter....since the direct comparisons between Bob and Patty, which I provided post numbers to....all show that Bob comes up way too short in the chest width, shoulder width, and arm length department...and too large in the head-size department.

And Bob's probs don't end there! They only start there. :)

More on that, at a later date.
 
Sweaty I agree Bob's boat is sleeping with the fishes. But for those who presist in putting Bob in the suit I conculded the following. You don't need to believe in Bigfoot to put Bob in the suit, You don't need to believe in Roger the con man, you don't need to believe in god, jesus and all the saints to put Bob in the suit. You only have to believe in magic. And so it is magic! Can't you feel it? Look hard at the film you'll see the sparkly dust of magic as Magic Bob performs for his fans!
 
That wasn't my analysis, learner.....and it wasn't the analysis I "refered to" in my post to kitakaze.

You're wrong on 2 counts.


As a matter of fact....this was my response to it....disagreeing with Jack's estimate of the amount Patty's height would rise....(I put it in larger lettering, just for you, like a first-grader's book...:)...since apparently you have trouble reading)...

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Perhaps you should learn how to be a better reader, learner. ;)

I was wrong. I apologise. I am still learning how to read and write. I have no idea what a first grader is but appreciate your help anyway
 
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Sweaty I agree Bob's boat is sleeping with the fishes. But for those who presist in putting Bob in the suit I conculded the following. You don't need to believe in Bigfoot to put Bob in the suit, You don't need to believe in Roger the con man, you don't need to believe in god, jesus and all the saints to put Bob in the suit.
You only have to believe in magic. And so it is magic! Can't you feel it? Look hard at the film you'll see the sparkly dust of magic as Magic Bob performs for his fans!


Yes......yes.....now that you mention it, Crow....I can feel it! It's a little hard to describe.....it's like "knowing", without having any 'known facts' to support what you 'know'......kinda like 'wishing for something', and it's suddenly APPEARS...out of nowhere!


I guess you could call it a "Magical Mystery Tour"....with kitty, the Madman, driving the bus.....and Dfoot providing the entertainment for the kiddies!

"Ooooooooooooooooooh weeeeeeeeee....look at that...it almost replicates Patty! You're amazing, Dfoot! Show us more!" :D
 
I was wrong. I apologise. I am still learning how to read and write. I have no idea what a first grader is but appreciate your help anyway


Thank you, learner. :)

It gets to be a little much, sometimes...constantly trying to straighten-out the misrepresentations, and false accusations, on this wonderful board.
 
Sweaty I agree Bob's boat is sleeping with the fishes. But for those who presist in putting Bob in the suit I conculded the following. You don't need to believe in Bigfoot to put Bob in the suit, You don't need to believe in Roger the con man, you don't need to believe in god, jesus and all the saints to put Bob in the suit. You only have to believe in magic. And so it is magic! Can't you feel it? Look hard at the film you'll see the sparkly dust of magic as Magic Bob performs for his fans!

A bigfoot believer talking about magic, lol.

Hilarious.
 
kitty, you are a troubled little pup.

RAWRF!:scorgi

You know, Sweaty, you failed to answer a question which directly pertains to the escapades I mentioned. I'll repost it for you:

"Can you please lean onto the microphone and state very clearly so that we all my understand, the name of the gentleman in the following photo and the gentleman to the far right in the photo after that?:"

And here's the pictures again:



I provided post numbers which explain....with the help of direct comparisons of Patty and Bob....exactly why I put NO credence in Bob's multiple, conflicting stories.

All of which are succeeded by many posts detailing the flaws in them. Feel free to go back and review. Also, I've given you a detailed explanation why your comparison does not qualify as direct in the way mine does.

Nonetheless, I will answer your questions in post #817.
I'll respond to what I feel is necessary, to defend myself against your false accusations, and misrepresentations of my thinking, and my analysis.

It would look better if you actually answered them all.

First...I need specific information on what you mean by "participation in Roger Patterson's Bigfoot escapades."

Can you provide some post numbers, that contain some of the 'specifics'?

Also, 'escapades' is a meaningless term in any careful, thoughtful, and meaningful analysis of the evidence. It's characterizing a group of things together, possibly in a negative light......when every single piece of evidence should be looked at in it's own light.

Logically...since the term 'escapades' has no meaning, or value (in analysis)....the statement you used it in also has neither meaning, nor value.

If you want to ask specific questions, about specific events Bob participated in....feel free to do so.

Nice semantic dither. The information you seek is provided at the top of my post (the two images). Here are some more scary questions:

1) After you tell me who the individual in the images belonging to and featuring Roger Patterson can you please tell me what you think is the reason that person is present in the situations the images sho?

2) Escapades is a well deserved term, I think. Can you please tell me in the image of the riders what is the object on top of Bob Gimlin's head, other than the hat he is wearing?

Bob's claim....in light of the comparisons between Bob and Patty....has only a very slim 'degree of probability' of being true.

Wrong. That is your opinion and as usual your opinion is poorly researched and heavily biased. Your comparisons are flawed and the reason why has been pointed out to you on many occasions. Most importantly, you have failed to identify any flaw in my true direct comparison. Both you and log once attempted to do this by claiming two different skeletons were used. It was a pathetic, desperate grap and you were both blown out of the water.

You also tried the most idiotic maneuver by asking why Patty's head doesn't bob which showed your absolutely inept logic. Here again are those images which continue to vex you:



To answer your question....Yes, being 'involved' with Roger would make Bob a 'more likely' candidate to be involved in a hoax with Roger, than most other people....I would agree with that.

Thank you. I'll hold on to that.

Again, though...what specific information are you refering to?

Again, the two images which you failed to answer a simple question about.

None have claimed to be Patty, as far as I know.

And thus your point of bringing up other friends is destroyed. Oops for you.

But that fact does nothing to cure Bob's other "ills"....as seen in the direct comparisons of Bob and Patty, which I have provided post numbers to.

Those are not ills so we are fine. Once again I encourage you to check those numbers and read the posts that come after them to see why they are not problems at all for Bob.

As for how many other friends have appeared on Bigfoot-related films with Roger.....I don't know how many have.

Doesn't matter. None of them have claimed to have been Patty so it's not important to think about. If Jerry Merritt claimed to have been Patty, then you'd have a point. You don't.

I agree kitty...Bob would be the only person who lives 9 houses down from Bob Gimlin....unless, of course, there are 9 houses on the same street, going in both directions from Gimlin's house.

Nice one, genius. Way to demonstrate the logical prowess of Sweaty. Bob Heironimus' wife also lives 9 houses from the Gimlins. Smooth.;)

If that is the case...then there is actually 1 other guy living 9 houses away from Bob Gimlin. That doesn't mean that particular guy has an equal chance of being Patty....mind you....but it is something to consider...:boggled:.

Why are you sidestepping? You are avoiding the issue that along with being in Patterson's film, there is another fact in Bob Heironimus'
favour. It makes little sense to accuse your longtime friend and neighbour of fraud when he could easily sue you or at the very least walk down the street 20 seconds and openly confront you. Bob Gimlin could have done that but he has not. Why hasn't BG sued BH? Why would BH submit to and pass a lie detector test yet BG will not submit to such a test?

You sidestep this because you are intellectually dishonest. You should learn from Vort.

But, again....9, 10, or 11 houses....it doesn't matter....since the direct comparisons between Bob and Patty, which I provided post numbers to....all show that Bob comes up way too short in the chest width, shoulder width, and arm length department...and too large in the head-size department.

And Bob's probs don't end there! They only start there. :)

More on that, at a later date.

Patty's anatomy is a big problem for her and for you. FAIL. Next.
 
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Sweaty I agree Bob's boat is sleeping with the fishes. But for those who presist in putting Bob in the suit I conculded the following. You don't need to believe in Bigfoot to put Bob in the suit, You don't need to believe in Roger the con man, you don't need to believe in god, jesus and all the saints to put Bob in the suit. You only have to believe in magic. And so it is magic! Can't you feel it? Look hard at the film you'll see the sparkly dust of magic as Magic Bob performs for his fans!

Log opens her mouth and woodchips come out. You can't address the problems we show so all you do is squawk.
 
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