Beheading in the Empire State

[lionking]

But she isn't a Muslim as well. Stick to the OP, Darat!
... Or send me some roses

Where is the OP restricted to Muslim beheadings? You should read it before criticising people who you say ignore it.

 

[tyr_13]

Beheading? I thought that New York had a sword and Guillotine ban in place...

Actually that's true. In Chautauqua, Erie, and Niagara counties it is illegal to carry or transport a sword that is not in a container, as in a full tied bag or latched box. When in a car the sword must be in either a container in the back seat or trunk, or in plain view in the back seat.

 

[Autolite]

Actually that's true. In Chautauqua, Erie, and Niagara counties it is illegal to carry or transport a sword that is not in a container, as in a full tied bag or latched box. When in a car the sword must be in either a container in the back seat or trunk, or in plain view in the back seat.

Yes, I think that I might of heard of something like that. Wasn't that implemented in an effort to bring an end to that dreadful rash of 'drive-by beheadings'???

 

[Cleon]

It's been said many times before, if you outlaw guillotines only outlaws will have guillotines. Is that what you want?

Guillotines don't behead people! People behead people!

 

[tyr_13]

Yes, I think that I might of heard of something like that. Wasn't that implemented in an effort to bring an end to that dreadful rash of 'drive-by beheadings'???

It was done as a political move. They are trying to wrestle power and influence from the samurai class, and the farmers respect the samurai less without our their swords.

In all seriousness, it is simply another stupid feel-good law at this point because there aren't any such restrictions on axes. Swords actually take a lot of training to use well when compared to an axe or a baseball bat. By the way, on SUNY campuses even baseball players and hockey players can't keep their equipment in their cars or carry them on campus. That would be dangerous.

Some of the older sword laws of New York actually go back to colonial times and are tied to anti-dueling laws.

 

[Autolite]

In all seriousness, it is simply another stupid feel-good law at this point because there aren't any such restrictions on axes.

No, no, not at all! You must give the lawmakers credit where credit is due. I'm betting that since the restrictions, there hasn't been a single 'drive-by beheading' in Ckeektowaga, Tonawanda or West Seneca. Look it up...

 

[Drudgewire]

The Post story includes this quote:

Hassan, who founded Bridges TV in 2004 to counter anti-Islam stereotypes following 9/11, turned himself in to cops Thursday in the Buffalo suburb of Orchard Park.

This just may be the biggest fail in history.

 

[Lupie]

How on earth can a beheading not be premeditated murder? You just flew into a rage and in a fit of anger, spontaneously decided to cut her head off? WTF? How could this possibly not be First Degree Murder?

That was my first thought as well. Having watched a clip of one of the beheadings from Iraq a few years back, it took a substantial effort to do it, and I see no way you could call a beheading a crime of passion and thus 2nd degree murder. The 2nd degree charge makes no sense.

 

[The Painter]

Maybe he just wanted some head.

 

[gumboot]

That was my first thought as well. Having watched a clip of one of the beheadings from Iraq a few years back, it took a substantial effort to do it, and I see no way you could call a beheading a crime of passion and thus 2nd degree murder. The 2nd degree charge makes no sense.

Actually I just read up, and apparently in NY first degree murder is reserved for murder in special circumstances which includes things like killing a police officer, a judge, fireman, witness to a crime, multiple murder, or particularly heinous torture and murder.

Regular ole premeditated murder is 2nd degree.

 

[Skeptic Guy]

In my business, this guy could have been a customer. Guess I'll need to mark him off my list...at least for the next 25 years or so.

 

[Polaris]

So you sell machetes?

 

[I Ratant]

He' a moderate Muslim!
Imagine what an excitable type might do!

 

[BPSCG]

The National Organization for Women denounces violence against women. Its top story on the linked page is:

The recent arrest of R&B star Chris Brown, who reportedly assaulted and threatened singer Rihanna, preventing her participation in the Grammys, has brought the ever-present issue of violence against women into the public spotlight once again.

"Everyone is talking about this case because it involves two popular recording artists, but the sad reality is that domestic violence and dating violence happen every day, even among young teens, and the impact is both far-reaching and under-reported," said Gandy.

Emphasis mine.

Entering "Hassan" into NOW's search engine turns up not a single reference to the beheading story.

Looks like Gandy's speaking from personal knowledge when she says nobody cares about violence against women when celebrities aren't involved.

 

[geni]

The National Organization for Women denounces violence against women. Its top story on the linked page is:

Emphasis mine.

Entering "Hassan" into NOW's search engine turns up not a single reference to the beheading story.

Looks like Gandy's speaking from personal knowledge when she says nobody cares about violence against women when celebrities aren't involved.

Assualt is fairly common in such cases. Beheading is uncommon enough that it is not unreasonable for them to have other priorities.

 

[Autolite]

So you sell machetes?

So what would be wrong with that? Just remember that old saying, "It's better to have a machete and not need it, than to need a machete and not have one"...

 

[geni]

So what would be wrong with that? Just remember that old saying, "It's better to have a machete and not need it, than to need a machete and not have one"...

Depends. In my experence a lot of the time you are better off with a billhook or a pair of lopers.

 

[Skeptic Guy]

So you sell machetes?

I sell TV Network origination and distribution services. Quite a number of my friends have worked with or tried to work with this guy...until recently.

So what would be wrong with that? Just remember that old saying, "It's better to have a machete and not need it, than to need a machete and not have one"...

It does sometimes help in negotiations.

 

[Autolite]

Depends. In my experience a lot of the time you are better off with a billhook or a pair of lopers.

What's a 'billhook'? That wouldn't be like one of those nasty 'assault sickles' would it???

 

[BPSCG]

Assualt is fairly common in such cases. Beheading is uncommon enough that it is not unreasonable for them to have other priorities.

So a celebrity assaulting another celebrity is more newsworthy, and more worthy of condemnation, than a guy sawing his wife's head off because it happens more often.

By that reasoning, "Man Ticketed For Speeding" should be the front-page story in every newspaper, every day.

And since chimpanzees ripping women's faces off is such a rare occurrence, it shouldn't even show up as a blip on the newspapers' radars. Why does "Chimp Rips Woman's Face Off" get headlines, but "Man Cuts Wife's Head Off" sinks with barely a ripple?

If NOW doesn't like the fact that violence against celebrity women is headline news but violence against ordinary women is not, NOW shouldn't perpetuate the problem by headlining violence against celebrity women while ignoring a truly horrifying crime borne of cultural pathology.

NOW's New York state chapter evidently disagrees with the national office's stance (writen, apparently, without the cooperation of a proofreader):

And why is this horrendous story not all over the news? Is a Muslim woman's life not worth a five-minute report? This was, apparently, a terroristic version of "honor killing," a murder rooted in cultural notions about women's subordination to men. Are we now so respectful of the Muslim's religion that we soft-peddle [sic] atrocities committed in it's [sic] name? Millions of women in this country are maimed and killed by their husbands or partners. Had this awful murder been perpetrated by a African American, a Latino, a Jew, or a Catholic, the story would be flooding the airwaves. What is this deafening silence?

Maybe the explanation is that NOW is afraid someone's going to show up at their headquarters door with a scimitar.