Rapture date: May 21, 2011. Exactly 7000 years from the Flood.

[ParrotPirate]

Lanzy&Learner: stop arguing people! Come the Rapture,there will be plunder aplenty for all of us that are "left behind"! (I really cringed when I added that last bit.)

 

[Roadtoad]

Hey Roadtoad, I've not seen this claimed before. The 40 years old thing. Could you give me a source for it? I suspect it's inaccurate, but would like to see the arguments for it. Thanks!

I've been trying to track that for some time, but part of it came from an Art Bell interview. (Long time ago; no, I don't remember the guest. You can hear some truly weird stuff on late night radio when you're somewhere in Texas.)

 

[fuelair]

Can't happen - the December 2012ers will get upset and cry all over us.

 

[Lucian]

Hey Roadtoad, I've not seen this claimed before. The 40 years old thing. Could you give me a source for it? I suspect it's inaccurate, but would like to see the arguments for it. Thanks!

I noticed that the nut-logs from ediblefellowship.com have 40-year-old Jesus in their time line of the world, so, you know, it must be right.

 

[Soapy Sam]

Did they use the Gregorian or Julian calendar?
Or perhaps the Mayan?

 

[This Guy]

I've been trying to track that for some time, but part of it came from an Art Bell interview. (Long time ago; no, I don't remember the guest. You can hear some truly weird stuff on late night radio when you're somewhere in Texas.)

Thanks guy!

I'm pretty sure JC was around 30 when he died. I don't claim absolute knowledge of the facts, but I've been doing some pretty deep reading (for me anyway) on early Christianity, and the born around 6 BCE and died at about age 30 seems pretty well founded.

Of course exact dates (on our calenders) are hard to come to from the ancient Jewish calender system, which was apparently a lunar based system, with what seem as odd methods of correcting for the difference between 336ish days and 365ish day year. Even harder when you consider that the first day of the month was apparently when the new moon was first actually seen (November has been postponed due to clouds! ).

Anyway, thanks.

 

[Evolved Wookie]

Rock on June.

 

[This Guy]

I noticed that the nut-logs from ediblefellowship.com have 40-year-old Jesus in their time line of the world, so, you know, it must be right.

I'm checking them out now. I'm very impressed with their logic so far! Just look at this example:
(NOTE: this is taken from here which I assume is were part of their "facts" come from, since they do reference the site.

"The second notice is that of the New Testament where Christ declares in Matthew 24:34:
This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
In this reference, Christ is speaking of events that will take place just before His return. He is, therefore, insisting that "this generation" will continue for at least almost two thousand years, for this much time has now elapsed, and all the events of which He prophesied in Matthew 24 have not yet happened."

Yes indeed! Obviously Christ could not have been blowing smoke! He must mean that "this generation" would last 2000 years! I haven't found their explanation for:

Matthew 16:28 (King James Version)

28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

But I'm sure it is just as logical!

 

[RecoveringYuppy]

Matthew 16:28 (King James Version)

28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

But I'm sure it is just as logical!

Oh, he was speaking to a group of live food fanatics that day.

 

[This Guy]

Well, I've glanced over what they say. I've also briefly looked at a reference they suggest for more detail (here). You'll have to find "We are almost there!" on the list at the left (it will load a PDF file of the book) and either read, or save a copy.

As one would expect from what appear to be typical YECs, everything is based on Bible versus, and no references to real world events are given (that I have found anyway).

While some scholars do allow for a birth date of Christ as early as 7 BCE, the general consensus is more in the 4-6 BCE range, based on the death of Herod.

These YECs claim Christ died in 33 CE, after a 3 year ministry. Most scholars seem to lean toward a roughly one year ministry, starting at about age 30. If the majority opinion, as I understand it, is correct Christ died around the year 24 CE. Birth 6 BCE, plus 29 to 30 years, and a 1 year ministry would put his death at about 24 to 25 CE.

So, right away, as far as I can tell, these folks are off in their calculations by about 9 years. IMHO, they are off their rockers by much more

I hope I'm around, and remember to check these WWW sites around June of 2011, just to see what excuses they give for still being here.

 

[CurtC]

My favorite bumper sticker:


IN CASE OF RAPTURE
Can I have your car?

 

[quarky]

Travelling south on rt.75 there was (is?) a restaurant, on the right, at a major cross-road.


It had a large sign,something like "JESUS LOVES YOU CATFISH"
It was a trucker-friendly, all you can eat, catfish, fries and slaw kind of place.

I'm sure some of you know the place of which I speak. It oozes jesus , harder than anywhere I've ever been. Harder than the cathedrals I've seen. We were scared, at first.
Which is why we kept going there, 4 times a year, on trips to and fro my ailing dad's place.

The booths and walls were covered with a vast painting, right on the cheesy paneling, that depicts the rapture, in full swing. It actually shows trucks going off bridges, with a ghosty spirit rising up from the driver's seat. There is a helicopter falling from the sky, and a similar spirit rising from it.
Every verticle space that wasn't covered with the greasy tools of the trade, was covered with jesus. Christ, I wish I had filmed it. I fear it is now gone.

This restaurant also had a trucker's chapel, out back, in a small metal building. I went in, of course, because I needed a beating. I hadn't been beat up by christian rednecks since 1967, when I had faggy long hair, like jesus's in the movies.

No one was in there. The bare walls were covered with similar art. It had a child-like quality. It was no Rembrandt. I sat there and soaked it up, in peace.
And me! a non-christian-non-trucker, vege****ingterian.

 

[Freethinker]

No one was in there. The bare walls were covered with similar art. It had a child-like quality. It was no Rembrandt. I sat there and soaked it up, in peace.

Not surprising.

 

[bokonon]

Of course, according to Matthew 19:23-24 (and Mark and Luke as well) anybody who has any possessions won't be going to heaven unless they can figure out how to get a camel through the eye of a needle, so I guess the pickings will be non-existent for our post-rapture looting enterprises.

The rich Christians will still be raptured, but instead of going to heaven they'll be transported directly to the warp drive engines, to serve as fuel for the Angelic Armada.

That's my heresy, and I'm sticking to it.

 

[Madalch]

Lanzy&Learner: stop arguing people! Come the Rapture,there will be plunder aplenty for all of us that are "left behind"! (I really cringed when I added that last bit.)

Considering the number of people who are actually righteous rather than self-righteous, I would suspect that it would be days before anyone noticed anything amiss.

Many of the Christians I know, well, I can't see God wanting to put up with them. They'd be preaching to HIM by the seventh day.

Of course, I'd love to be able to tell some of them, "Oh yes, the Rapture happened last week. Didn't you notice?"

 

[Kthulhut Fhtagn]

I've always wondered; does God consider timezone when he does his rapturing? Does he consider distance from the sun? When will the Martians be raptured?

 

[quarky]

I forgot to mention, the rapture restaurant is/was in northern Florida.
Go there and be saved, but avoid the whole catfish, unless you like bones.

 

[Psi Baba]

Has it ever occurred to the fundies that just maybe, the real paradise will be right here after all the religious nutters have been scooped up and . . . disposed of? What if the whole Bible/Faith thing is a weeding-out process to eliminate not the faithless, but those who have failed to make use of their "god-given" power of reason and rational thought? He might be just waiting long enough to see how many subjects "take the bait" so he knows who to discard.

I'm beginning to think that the "end" will be with neither a bang nor a whimper, but with a wink and a nod.




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[CurtC]

In case everyone doesn't know already...

The idea of the pre-tribulation rapture was invented in the 1800s, and is not held by any mainstream theologians. For some reason it does seem to be a common meme among the rank-and-file however.

 

[quarky]

Has it ever occurred to the fundies that just maybe, the real paradise will be right here after all the religious nutters have been scooped up and . . . disposed of? What if the whole Bible/Faith thing is a weeding-out process to eliminate not the faithless, but those who have failed to make use of their "god-given" power of reason and rational thought? He might be just waiting long enough to see how many subjects "take the bait" so he knows who to discard.

I'm beginning to think that the "end" will be with neither a bang nor a whimper, but with a wink and a nod.




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I like that notion, but it could also work if the nutters actually score, too. Both teams could be right, in as much as they wouldn't need to endure each other anymore. "Disposed of" sounds too vengeful.