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Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 3

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Crowlogic said:
Sweaty, I've seen the McClarin footage all the way through. The differences in overall motion are impressive.
In the event of Jim compressed or stretched it does not change his locked knees or his arm ratio.
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That's true....the differences between the two of them are quite large, and significant...and noticeable within a wide range of mis-scaling.

One other difference is in their postures....Patty's is distinctly less upright than Jim's.

I'll post another frame or two from Jim's walk later tonight.


I've tried to find the full clip again but so far no luck.
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I've never seen the full video on-line...only a short clip. The full, or nearly full, video is on the LMS dvd. That's where I'm taking these frames from.
Do you have that, by any chance?



Incidently the Patty frame is nice quality, one of the better ones I've seen.
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Yeah, it is. It's from LMS, too.


As I've compared these two images more this afternoon, I'm really impressed by how closely the objects in the foreground and background match-up. John Green really did a great job with his re-creation!
 
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SweatyYeti said:
That's true....the differences between the two of them are quite large, and significant...and noticeable within a wide range of mis-scaled images.

One other difference is in their postures....Patty's is distinctly less upright than Jim's.

I'll post another frame or two from Jim's walk later tonight.





I've never seen the full video on-line...only a short clip. The full, or nearly full, video is on the LMS dvd. That's where I'm taking these frames from.
Do you have that, by any chance?






Yeah, it is. It's from LMS, too.


As I've compared these two images more this afternoon, I'm really impressed by how closely the objects in the foreground and background match-up. John Green really did a great job with his re-creation!
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Skeptics say that patty is wider bc of padding, but how would a very padded suit move fluidly like real flesh over 42 years ago?
 
makaya325 said:
Yet when skeptics claim that mclarin is taller, according to your ambigious photo, we should accept it? Did i mention that mclarin walked the same exact trackway patty did?
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Its not my photo. Its a photo that's on the web and anyone can search it out. I posted it in case you hadn't seen anything form the McClarin film. But the full McClarin film is interesitng in that it shows a tall lanky guy taking a stroll in about as unlike a Patty fashion as can be imagined.

Exact trackway? Yes mention it but the usual suspects will find a way to derail it. Did you know the sky was blue above the Bluff Creek film site when Patterson did his filming. Grant is burried in Grant's tomb too but......
 
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Keyser Söze wants to know how Patty`s path was determinated by McClarin & Co. Keyser Söze wants to know if the camera was at the same place that the cam used to shot PGF was. If the answer is an "yes", Keyser Söze wants to know how McClarin & Co. determinated the camera's exact position.

"'Cause they said so" will not be considered by Keyser Söze an adequate answer.
 
People walk in different ways. Another person could have walked the same path as McClarin and looked different from both McClarin and Patty.

People claim that while BobH walks funny, it's not like Patty. Well, it's not like McClarin, either.

Unless you have already detemined somehow that Patty is an unknown primate and not a person trying to look like one, McClarin's walk of the trackway says little about Patty, imo.
 
Diogenes said:
And some Pattycakes say a very padded suit looks like fluidly moving flesh ....

I wonder why the overwhelming majority of people who view the film don't happen to agree ?
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What people? Untrained people like most of us? Show me a scientist who disagrees with me about the fluid movement of patty's sexy calves. :blush:
 
LTC8K6 said:
People walk in different ways. Another person could have walked the same path as McClarin and looked different from both McClarin and Patty.

People claim that while BobH walks funny, it's not like Patty. Well, it's not like McClarin, either.

Unless you have already detemined somehow that Patty is an unknown primate and not a person trying to look like one, McClarin's walk of the trackway says little about Patty, imo.
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Lt, any reasonable person says that its impossible to determine a suited man or unknown primate from a 2-d image! Its pointless to argue. We all have our opinions.
 
makaya325 said:
Lt, any reasonable person says that its impossible to determine a suited man or unknown primate from a 2-d image!
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That is complete nonsense.
Where do you come up with such idiotic statements?
Are you really that obtuse? Are you 11 years old?
No, wait - I forgot - YOU ARE A TROLL.
 
rockinkt said:
That is complete nonsense.
Where do you come up with such idiotic statements?
Are you really that obtuse? Are you 11 years old?
No, wait - I forgot - YOU ARE A TROLL.
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Rockin, do you really think that you can take on my 5"11 230 lb frame? Come on, lol, im not trying to pick a fight, but can you please stop calling me a troll based on typed words for less than a month?
 
I tried out to be a troll but the weight limit is 107 lbs and depending on my mood I'm either a few ounces of feathers and and attitude or a whopping 102 lbs of NY sunshine. Either form I just love it when the PGF is sitting in my lap as the real honest to Mayberry real deal. Shucks I wonder how many trolls, of any size would have had the moxy to mess with Patty. Yo hey Bieeeecthc you ain't real! 6 seconds later and Patty is furthering her education on the flow patterns of troll guts.
 
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Here's another image from Jim's walk....he's in there...somewhere...:)...


WheresJim1.jpg




.....5 bucks to the person who finds him first! ;)
 
In order to save myself 5 bucks......here he is...

WheresJim4.jpg



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And here's Patty, behind the same tree...


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Jim's slim build and posture allowed him to disappear behind that tree, but that's not the case with Patty.
 
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makaya325 said:
What people? Untrained people like most of us? Show me a scientist who disagrees with me about the fluid movement of patty's sexy calves. :blush:
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It doesn't take special training to see a man in a suit. As for scientists who disagree with you....surely you're joking(or trolling), right?
 
SweatyYeti said:
In order to save myself 5 bucks......here he is...

[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Jim%20McClarin/WheresJim4.jpg[/qimg]


[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Jim%20McClarin/WheresJim5.jpg[/qimg]


And here's Patty, behind the same tree...


[qimg]http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w28/SweatyYeti/Jim%20McClarin/PattyTree2A.jpg[/qimg]



Jim's slim build and posture allowed him to disappear behind that tree, but that's not the case with Patty.
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Which has, oh....zero to do with whether someone wore a bigfoot suit in Patterson's bigfoot home movie.

I guess that since I can't pilot a rocket ship, the moon landings really WERE hoaxed.

What's next, using a dwarf to show Patty is too tall to be human?
 
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Lt, any reasonable person says that its impossible to determine a suited man or unknown primate from a 2-d image! Its pointless to argue. We all have our opinions.
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That's an interesting group of sentences. Weird and incorrect imo, but interesting.

So, if we saw a 2D image of shoulder pads popping out of Patty, it would be impossible to tell Patty was a suit?
 
xblade said:
Which has, oh....zero to do with whether someone wore a bigfoot suit in Patterson's bigfoot home movie.

I guess that since I can't pilot a rocket ship, the moon landings really WERE hoaxed.
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I know it doesn't tell us much, regarding whether or not Patty is a man-in-a-suit....but it does help give some perspective on Patty's overall size, compared to Jim's.
And that was the main purpose of Jim being filmed walking in Patty's steps.
 
SweatyYeti said:
I know it doesn't tell us much, regarding whether or not Patty is a man-in-a-suit....but it does help give some perspective on Patty's overall size, compared to Jim's.
And that was the main purpose of Jim being filmed walking in Patty's steps.
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There's Patty's size, right there. Check the link:



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http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=oKqBaPwhUPU

Just like Bob.
 
IIRC, Patterson and Gimlin went to Bluff Creek because some tracks had been reported there. Somehow, those tracks at Bluff Creek were "all but destroyed" and "just globs in the mud" after a month.

Incidentally, can it be shown how long Roger and BobG were in the area? It was either 3 weeks, or a little over a week, depending on which accounts you read.
 
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