I agree, mk is an embarrasment. I thought the resolution was to crumby to see the "lines". Those lines are consistent with gorilla legs
Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 3
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I agree, mk is an embarrasment. I thought the resolution was to crumby to see the "lines". Those lines are consistent with gorilla legs
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Considering Noll's track record with spinning information (People saying "Maybe it's Bigfoot." "More like Dickfoot" in the Memorial Day video getting reported as something like "The people involved said they saw Bigfoot"), I'm skeptical about taking his word that actual tracks were visible. Did Green or McClarin take any pictures of the alleged tracks so they can be compared to the ones taken by Laverty and Titmus?
But to show that I'm not pulling the depressions stuff out of nowhere, here a
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Come to think of it, didn't Napier once say something about the alleged trackway's stride not matching what's seen on the film (or something like that) or am I thinking of something else?
Does anyone realize that Mclarin walked the same pathway as the figure, and came up to be shorter than the pgf subject?
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Which might be a convincing argument that he was in the wrong place. Or it might just be more useless twaddle.
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Why yes he did walk the pathway and there is some footage of him doing it. Its worth watching just to compare the motion of him vs the PGF subject. I'm 100% convinced that there was a something of a visible trackway remaining in the spring when they got there. These photos show that they did a good job of framing the film.
In my own expierence I once cut across a sandy slope that ran between a boardwalk and a line of trees at Sunken Meadow State PK on Long Island. My tracks, which were the only ones in that area, stayed visible for several months in spite of the wind rain and general turbulance of the envirnment along the LI Sound. BTW Makaya since you're on LI why not check out Sunken Meadow its a great place. PM me and I'll even put you on to where you could leave tracks and study the way they disappear in the very sandy soil there.
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Skeptical Greg
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You are not talking about that cheezy frame overlay in LMS are you ?
kitakaze
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Oh, look at that. No comment about the breasts. First thing you learn about Bigfoot enthusiasts, if it can't be made to support their arguments - no comment.
Second thing you learn about Bigfoot enthusiasts - they state things as fact and hope people will just accept it as such.
Show me some gorillas with subducting horizontal lines across the thigh. Don't give me any stills or color variations. Just like the enthusiasts say, "show it to me moving."
...And don't forget Patty's boobs.
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My totally unscientific 2 minute analysis of your two photo crow :
There are two interresting thigns for me on these photo crow. Sure the above one is very obviously compressed latterally, but it seems the "apparent" height of patty is slightily lower, than the height of the guy on the photo and both hip seem to be at the same level. Naturally it could be an optical effect, perspective change , distance yada yada. But if you compare head / shoulder hip length and other ratio, she does not seem altogether different than the guy in white shirt.
There are two interresting thigns for me on these photo crow. Sure the above one is very obviously compressed latterally, but it seems the "apparent" height of patty is slightily lower, than the height of the guy on the photo and both hip seem to be at the same level. Naturally it could be an optical effect, perspective change , distance yada yada. But if you compare head / shoulder hip length and other ratio, she does not seem altogether different than the guy in white shirt.
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Aepervius wrote:
There's quite a difference between the two....mostly in the 'body mass, and body width' departments....
There's quite a difference between the two....mostly in the 'body mass, and body width' departments....
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You mean the padded suit?
Aepervius
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If you look carefully (... Oh wait, you wont) the width resolution is not the same. But the structure is, and padding can explain the rest.
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Apevirus, my totally scientific and premeditated reason for posting the McClarin frames was for the benifit of Makaya. He mentioned the McClarin film and perhaps handn't seen anything from it. I'm aware of the compressed McClarin photo. However since its not offered as a size comparison it makes no difference to the puropse with which I posted it.
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I knew that they weren't scaled properly, but that doesn't change the fact that......as I said......Patty is significantly wider, and more massive than Jim is.
I enlarged the images a little...and widened the image of Jim, also...
The images aren't scaled perfectly, yet....but they're close enough for now.
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Sweaty, I've seen the McClarin footage all the way through. The differences in overall motion are impressive. In the event of Jim compressed or stretched it does not change his locked knees or his arm ratio. I've tried to find the full clip again but so far no luck. Incidently the Patty frame is nice quality, one of the better ones I've seen. Gives reason to expect that suit details as in Bill's work can be determined.
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Drewbot, Why not come and visit Dolyestown in Bucks County PA. You'll get to see a resident population there and in the surrounding communities some really big "bubble butts". In fact skinny me used to sarcastically refer to the area as "Fat Butt County" when I lived there.
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Crow, the top frame appears compressed horizontally to me. In the bottom frame, McClarin is not at the same angle as Patty. Both of these things mess with perception of width and bulk.
Nevertheless, Patty certainly appears bulkier. But that's what a suit would do.
Patty's height is pretty well pegged by that tree as well, as most of us already know.
We have, of course, been all over this topic 11 ways from Sunday.
It's funny to see makaya come in here and "discover" things though, isn't it?
Nevertheless, Patty certainly appears bulkier. But that's what a suit would do.
Patty's height is pretty well pegged by that tree as well, as most of us already know.
We have, of course, been all over this topic 11 ways from Sunday.
It's funny to see makaya come in here and "discover" things though, isn't it?
Crow, the top frame appears compressed horizontally to me. In the bottom frame, McClarin is not at the same angle as Patty. Both of these things mess with perception of width and bulk.
Nevertheless, Patty certainly appears bulkier. But that's what a suit would do.
Patty's height is pretty well pegged by that tree as well, as most of us already know.
We have, of course, been all over this topic 11 ways from Sunday.
It's funny to see makaya come in here and "discover" things though, isn't it?
Yet when skeptics claim that mclarin is taller, according to your ambigious photo, we should accept it? Did i mention that mclarin walked the same exact trackway patty did?
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