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Native American myths/traditions support Bigfoot? A critical look.

Well, Kitz, imho, The mask shows things that are common in non-human primates, such as the nostrils, lips, eyes, etc. Kitz, did you ever look at the native american masks?
 
makaya325 said:
Well, Kitz, imho, The mask shows things that are common in non-human primates, such as the nostrils, lips, eyes, etc.
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This is just not sinking in.

Your * and * my * opinion * is * not * important *

It has things that are not common at all. A big fat horizontal line under the nose. Vertical lines running down the face. Where's the hair? Lots of masks depict furry hairy things with something meant to simulate the effect.

You have done no research into that mask. You have nothing to make it a depiction of Bigfoot other than your opinion influenced by that of a highly eccentric (and gifted) Polish artist. We don't deal in the commodity of opinions here. Substance through investigation and fact establishment. If those people who made the mask are telling you it's Bigfoot then there's something. It doesn't become designated that way because of the wishes of Bigfoot enthusiasts. Why don't you try researching it? Why is it hard to get you guys to do that? I'm telling you the importance of it and three times now you shirk it off and repeat your opinions. I'm sorry if it comes off as harsh but it means squat when dealing with cultural artefacts such as this.

Kitz, did you ever look at the native american masks?
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I won't even tell you again to read the thread. Just go to the beginning and start hopping through pages scrolling down as fast as you like. When ever you see a mask just slam on the breaks and read away.
 
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Well, kitz, the mask is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of squatch. You have spoke with many indians, you claim, and most dont think squatch never existed? Not one indian said its real as a bear?
 
Guess us native Americans have magic powers to know about all animals, even hundreds of years removed from living very close to nature.

I just asked my spirit guild. The falcon told me there are no bigfoot.
 
Ty, are you native american? My tribe, hoopas, KNOW the sasquatch exists, however, if you want to, talk to them, not me
 
makaya325 said:
Ty, are you native american? My tribe, hoopas, KNOW the sasquatch exists, however, if you want to, talk to them, not me
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Yeah, I know how white I look, but included in the mutt mix that is my family tree are enough Seneca to call myself that.

At any rate, do the Hoopas KNOW that sasquatch exists or are they anachronistically attributing past stories to them? There are many, many well documented cases of contemporary attitudes coloring ideas of the past. For example, native dances. It happens a lot in martial arts as well.
 
Yes, the Hoopas regard bigfoot as a regular animal rather than a spirit. Ty, do you have any legends about the big man?
 
makaya325 said:
Dio, its Oh-mah, or "boss of the woods"
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Good.
Now you can show documentation that demonstrates Oh-mah is ( traditionally ) believed to be a real flesh and blood hominid, rather than a boogey-man type of myth, used to frighten children, or jazz up a camp-fire smoking session.

I can't seem to find anything about Oh-ma, apart from Bigfoot proponent sources.
 
In this very thread I explained how the Seneca story of the stone giants, claimed to be a bigfoot legend, is absolutely nothing of the sort. I also provided the links to show that I didn't just make that up.

Seriously, read the thread. It's a good one.
 
OMG sombody just had to say boss of the woods. Damn now Kitakaze will be posting boss of the wood this, boss of the woods that, boss of the woods the other thing for the next six weeks. Oh-Mah aching head!
 
makaya325 said:
Dio, its Oh-mah, or "boss of the woods"
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Mayaka, I think you are misinformed about your own culture on this point. Oh-Mah is not any type of correlary for Bigfoot. I have researched the Boss of the Woods Oh-Mah extensively early in this thread. You are talking about a supernatural being. A sorcerer/devil type figure of the creeks said to have magic poisoned and burnt flint arrows. These arrows would sometimes fall into the hands of humans who would then become devils themselves and practice black magic.

Please check my research:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=3389527#post3389527

All correlations to Bigfoot are from Bigfoot enthusiast sources who have an agenda in not presenting the factual historical information.
 
kitakaze said:
Mayaka, I think you are misinformed about your own culture on this point.
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Yep - he does not even call his own people by the right name.

"Hoopa" is the Valley and the name of the reserve.

"Hupa" is what the people call themselves.
 
rockinkt said:
Yep - he does not even call his own people by the right name.

"Hoopa" is the Valley and the name of the reserve.

"Hupa" is what the people call themselves.
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Many tribes call themselves by different names than they used to, so I don't think this is a valid criticism.
 
tyr_13 said:
Many tribes call themselves by different names than they used to, so I don't think this is a valid criticism.
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As is made many times clear in this thread (and the case of the Oh-Mah clearly showing), transliterations of various place names and figures of indigenous North American peoples is subject to great variation.

It should be noted that the Hupa people were traditionally known as the Natinixwe (nah-tin-oh-way). Rock is correct in noting that the most widely used spelling is "Hupa" but I don't think we can judge "Hoopa" to be any real kind of error.

I will soon prepare an email to send to an online Hupa group to seek any insight regarding Oh-Mah and possible connections to Bigfoot.

http://bss.sfsu.edu/calstudies/hupa/HISTORYNEW.HTM
 
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Rocket, I spent time in the hoopa valley on a reservation, when i was young. Im now 18, moved to long island from california.

Oh-mah is a beast. However, I personally have visited other reservations. When i mention the sasquatch's existence, all of the indians told me "Why has the white man been realizing this now? We have known it was real before colombus even set foot on our land!". His message sent chills up my spine
 
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