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I wasnt looking for a fight, Kit, I just copied and pasted it to let you know. I have no idea if its true, i just thought that you should read it.

That's alright, makaya. I don't really see a fight here. It's a simple point - Bigfoot enthusiasts are usually pretty terrible when it comes to dealing with information and getting facts straight. They circulate made up gobbledygook amongst themselves, nodding to eachother, and don't have the slightest inclination to question what they're regurgitating to eachother.

When you not only repeat someone else but cut and paste their words as your own, it shows what many others and myself would consider total intellectual lethargy. No, you didn't have any idea if it was true but you put it out there as if it was a true, a fact that you researched and came up with yourself. That is completely against the concept of critical thinking and it's pretty lame. You should just keep in mind for the future that when you do something like that you work against the goal you are trying to achieve.
 
Thanks, Kit. I want this mystery solved like you too. I feel we will have an answer to its existence if we scan every known hominid hotspot in the world to the nearest inch or we find a body.

Do you have any favorite stories from Native american lore?
 
I have no idea what it belongs to, I Just put up the links to see if any of you knew what it belonged to
 
Thanks, Kit. I want this mystery solved like you too. I feel we will have an answer to its existence if we scan every known hominid hotspot in the world to the nearest inch or we find a body.

Yet you now change tack and have adopted log's stance of extinction. What is it you propose? How do you satisfy yourself that Bigfoot etc is not out there? How do you prove that negative to all the Bigfoot enthusiasts who cling to the dream?

Do you have any favorite stories from Native american lore?

All the research I've done for the Bigfoot and Native American myths/traditions thread has shown me some very cool tales. There's one that pops to mind and I'll repost it in that thread.
 
One is compressed horse crap, and the other is bear. The bear on the left had eaten some different stuff from the one on the right.
 
Kitz, you can prove it doesnt exist, by exploring under every leaf, through every brush, through every single piece of land in the world, and if we come up empty handed, it proves it doesnt exist. I would be discouraged if it doesnt exist, but i will always remember the good old days of early man and his hairy friends
 
Tyrie, I really dont think its horse crap. Im pretty sure horse poo is easy to identify.
 
Wow here I am quoting in agreement with a sometimes nemisis. However Correa is correct. When I was doing field work I developed an amazingly sharp eye for all kinds of details within my environment, sights, sounds and smells. Although I was in the field to collect water samples and record visual health of lakes, ponds and rivers the secondary requirments were of the general health of the environment as a whole. Had I been there to monitor deer behavior I could have done so since I encountered them so often and in such numbers that got to know them whether I was there to study them or not. And so it was with a lot of the fauna. I don't get outinto the woods nearly as often as I'd like to now but when I do it only takes about an hour or two for the observation reflex to kick in.
OK, this is OT and quite possibly shoul be the subject of a PM, but I guess some people would benefit of it also.
Crow, I have no idea why you say I`m a Nemesis... Can`t remember waging vengeange or being hostile towards you. I do have a number different opinions than yours and state them, but please note that this is a debate forum and that defending a different position is not equal to hostility. Debates may be seen like verbal wars but this does not mean that hostility always happens.

And we agreeing is not actually something that rare.
 
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Tyrie, I really dont think its horse crap. Im pretty sure horse poo is easy to identify.

It is, and I've shoveled enough of it for my garden over the years to know what it looks like when you press it down and mix it with a little soil and roots. That's how I know it's horse droppings.
 
Kitz, you can prove it doesnt exist, by exploring under every leaf, through every brush, through every single piece of land in the world, and if we come up empty handed, it proves it doesnt exist. I would be discouraged if it doesnt exist, but i will always remember the good old days of early man and his hairy friends

Oh, that's all.

...Wait, why do we have to do that, again?
 
Kitz, you can prove it doesnt exist, by exploring under every leaf, through every brush, through every single piece of land in the world, and if we come up empty handed, it proves it doesnt exist.

Well, no. But it does prove my theory: Invisible Bigfoot!
 
That is another Bigfoot enthusiast promoted fallacy - we haven't really looked. We don't need to intentionally search for something to find it or have it find us. People have been living, working, researching, observing, tracking, hunting, etc in alleged Bigfoot territory with no reliable evidence of such a creature existing. We have elusive, large, very rare animals living in North America that we can still locate. Think of the ultra-rare white bears of the Queen Charlotte Islands as an example. There is no reconciliation we have to make with Bigfoot claims. Everything about it fits nicely with a social construct.

That's totally awesome!! I've never heard of the White Bears, and I live relatively near them! That is so so so cool...and proof that there are amazing things in the world that do not require only mythology to support them.

I agree with your point, that if Bigfoot exists, we should have had more sightings by more credible folks, by now. We should have trailsign and dung. We should have indications that they use resources other animals would otherwise consume; that is, in a Bigfoot-occupied area, you should see a discrepancy in the populations of bears, wolverines, or whatever the proposed analog is. You should find indication of their feeding, be it broken branches, remains of prey, etc. We find lots of fossil sites for early humans with copious middens (trash heaps) with bones, broken tools, ash, etc.

I'm guessing the OP is fairly young, and doesn't know how many serious scientific studies of Bigfoot (Sasquatch is my preferred term, but then I'm in the Northwest) were conducted in the 70's and 80's, with no positive results. The existance of a BF-believer community that eagerly lauds likely frauds without demanding scientific examination of the evidence has if anything lessened the likelihood of serious researchers getting funding.

I also have to wonder when the BF myth expanded to include places like Georgia? Because the barriers to a creature being adapted to all the terrain between here and there are quite striking. I admit, I'm well out of the loop now, having taken a run at the Sasquatch evidence with the hope of believing in the late 70's and given up by '85.

The expansion to include other areas seems to be a better fit to the folkloric model. The only large animal I can think of that has succeeded as a predator from BC to Florida is the cougar, and even that has subspecies. (And, rare as they are, they're spotted regularly!)

Just my thoughts, MK
 
These White Bears occasionally appear in the litters of the black
bear that inhabit these pockets of B.C. The Queen Charlotte islands.
Some have an orange tinge to them I hear.
I lived on Gabriola Island, never had the chance to go visit more
of these places in B.C.
 

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