How does the current financial crisis affect the Challenge funds?

[Chris H]

Regarding my request for the Goldman Sachs information. Received an email from Alison Smith. It unfortunately points me to the August 31, 2008 information.

Brody,

If you plan on replying, perhaps you could ask when the next statement will be published, and point Alison in the direction of this thread (although no doubt she has already seen it)?

I don't recall how frequently they were changed on the website in the past.

Cheers,

Chris

PS.

Perhaps the JREF feels no need to respond to Hugely Annoying Pricks?

I like the moderators so much better here than on other forums...

 

[Brody]

Chris:

That's exactly what I plan on doing. I want to remove the legs from The Professors little running accusations.

And I want to do it by sincerely and actually following suggestions from the members of this forum. Perhaps then he'll see that he should do *something* about his claims other than whine and cry.

And hugely annoying is still an understatement.

Alison:

Thanks for your reply. The information in the PDF is from August 2008. When could I reasonably
expect current information?

Thanks,

 

[GzuzKryzt]

Why no Monthly update?
No Quarterly update?
No Requested update?

I guess we are now waiting for a YEARLY UPDATE
It's been
SEPTEMBER (No Update)
OCTOBER (No Update)
NOVEMBER (No Update)
DECEMBER (No Update)

Well now it's ........
JANUARY

The JREF says all you have to do is ask and they'll disclose the facts .... Well that's not quite the case here now is it?

Let's assume for now you got the forum members' attention because you pointed to evidence of the JREF's wrongdoing. So far, so good.

What is your next step?

I assume you intend to achieve a resolution to the problem you pointed to, right?

 

[Pixel42]

I guess we are now waiting for a YEARLY UPDATE

What do you mean we, pale face?

I'm sure JREF will update it eventually, if and when they consider it necessary. In the meantime I for one am perfectly satisfied with the information that's already been given. Not that it's of any relevance to me, in as much as I'm not about to make a credible attempt at the challenge. Something which you and I do have in common.

 

[Azrael 5]

I'm with pixel42 I have stated on another thread,I don't care if the million isn't updated,I haven't got paranormal powers-much like yourself Dave and Jim.You crying like a baby on here-to a forum of people who don;t care is getting you knowhere.

Let's see if you can answer a straight question-it's a long shot-have you requested in writing a statement?

 

[Cavemonster]

I'm with pixel42 I have stated on another thread,I don't care if the million isn't updated,I haven't got paranormal powers-much like yourself Dave and Jim.You crying like a baby on here-to a forum of people who don;t care is getting you knowhere.

Let's see if you can answer a straight question-it's a long shot-have you requested in writing a statement?

This is pretty much irrelevant. Slim's application has been closed due to failure to pursue his claim in good faith and communciate honestly.

The JREF has no obligation to provide him any information.

Here are the IRS regulations for what information nonprofit organizations must disclose. Notice that there is no reference to current holdings information being available to the public.

Seeing that Slim is no longer in contractual negotiations with the JREF, and that his only relationship with them at the present is as a poster on these boards, they have no legal, moral, social, or other interest or obligation in providing him with the information he asks for.

Considering his past behavior, I would think it fairly wise of them to completely ignore any communication from him.

 

[Azrael 5]

*snip*
PS.

I like the moderators so much better here than on other forums...

Yes they aren't insane religious biased idiots on here,

 

[RemieV]

To my knowledge, there have NEVER been monthly updates to the statement. We receive and post quarterly updates. It has been roughly four months, and this includes the holiday seasons.

The statement will be posted as soon as is possible.

 

[Cuddles]

Why no Monthly update?
No Quarterly update?
No Requested update?

I guess we are now waiting for a YEARLY UPDATE
It's been
SEPTEMBER (No Update)
OCTOBER (No Update)
NOVEMBER (No Update)
DECEMBER (No Update)

Well now it's ........
JANUARY

The JREF says all you have to do is ask and they'll disclose the facts .... Well that's not quite the case here now is it?

You do realise that with the last statement being the August 2008 statement, the next quarerly statement would be the December 2008 one, which could be expected to be recieved some time in January 2009? Which we are currently right at the start of. Isn't it amazing how a tiny little bit of common sense can answer these questions so easily?

 

[Chris H]

Glad to hear it. Can't wait to see the next fairytale Mr Koenig concocts about the JREF once this story is blown out of the water.

Chris

 

[Darat]

Merged this thread with another started on the exact same subject.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat

 

[The Professor]

To my knowledge, there have NEVER been monthly updates to the statement. We receive and post quarterly updates. It has been roughly four months, and this includes the holiday seasons.

The statement will be posted as soon as is possible.

Thanks Alison ...So you are only SIX WEEKS LATE

Why a Month and a Half delay?

And what about my multiple requests several months ago?

Anyone with half a brain knows that GS has sent out communications to all of their clients concerning the market problems. Why are you so late in relaying the information?

 

[The Professor]

It is. Jeff confirmed that. And the year is still 2008. And the sun is still warm. And two is still less than four.

You will be notified, or you can easily check, if any of these things have changed.

Sit back. Relax. Dream about a million dollars. Kick off your shoes. Work up a protocol.

Wow ... Still no update and it's been MONTHS Devil's Advocate

 

[The Professor]

Rjh01 already made a valid point.
Also, the JREF lacks the resources to update the progess on each claim. I also find it unfortunate but we have to live with that - unless you want to donate a large sum and speed the process up.

And only a snarky cynic would say the JREF Staff's precious little time is often consumed by insincere applicants, wouldn't he?

The JREF takes in over $400,000.00 a year. Are you serious in saying that they can not afford to keep up with the challengers emails?
Hogwash!!!!!

It's been more than another week of NOTHING!!!!!!

Last update was NOVEMBER OF LAST YEAR !!!!!!

Edited by chillzero: 

Movde to appropriate thread

 

[Klimax]

Thanks Alison ...So you are only SIX WEEKS LATE

Why a Month and a Half delay?

And what about my multiple requests several months ago?

Anyone with half a brain knows that GS has sent out communications to all of their clients concerning the market problems. Why are you so late in relaying the information?

Please,stop attacking and lying.ANY update for given month/period will come after said MONTH/PERIOD ENDS*.Therefore you are wrong.They(JREF) ARE NOT six weeks LATE.They cannot be late as they HAVE NOT recieved any update.

("random caps" are there to get attention of "professor")

 

[not daSkeptic]

Anyone with half a brain knows that GS has sent out communications to all of their clients concerning the market problems.

You've ignored this question once already, so I'll ask it again. How exactly do you have any knowledge of the details of any communications between Goldman Sachs and JREF regarding their account?

 

[Azrael 5]

Here's my "Paranormal prediction"
The Professor will be banned from here,very soon.
How can one person be SO annoying?!

 

[RemieV]

From what my inquiries have shown, the statement was updated. The link leading to it was not.

http://www.randi.org/challenge/goldmansachs.pdf

Here is the November statement which illustrates that the million remains intact.

I hope this will finally clear up any questions regarding the existence of the million. If not, there will be another statement posted at the end of the quarter.

 

[not daSkeptic]

I hope this will finally clear up any questions regarding the existence of the million. If not, there will be another statement posted at the end of the quarter.

Not only is the million still there, but the account appears to be gaining value. Your response, Professor?

 

[Soapy Sam]

$1,135,634.79

I wish my portfolio had done half so well this quarter.

So, prof. Happy now?